Official Tier Point System Thread - Page 13

**kmay** · 12-26-2010, 08:43 PM

hmm wow look at all the highest level players crying over how hard it is to get TP's.

how else are you guys going to be challenged on this site? -_-

OneHandNow · 12-26-2010, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmay

hmm wow look at all the highest level players crying over how hard it is to get TP's.

how else are you guys going to be challenged on this site? -_-

Tier4

"FFR Pro"

har har

**kmay** · 12-26-2010, 08:49 PM

I'm no longer T4... but I'm not taking it down. Its nice memories from me "prime".

**devonin** · 12-26-2010, 08:49 PM

Anybody pointing to the total number of users as relevent to this discussion are hilarious.

I have the 2251st rank GTS on the site, and that's over a whopping 5300 games. And I'm so far from even -having- a tier point, let alone being in a tier that I don't even count.

For the purposes of discussions around serious ranking of serious players, you're looking at an ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM of 2000 users. Out of the full 1.7 million users.

If you're looking at only 2000 people, absolutely no more than 100 should even -be- in a tier, IMO.

**TC_Halogen** · 12-26-2010, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jimerax

Explain this. btw 1-7 pt reqs are almost the same with old tier reqs (3-9 pts).

You're dropping the overall point requirement of the higher difficulty tiers by two full points - those who worked hard for the 9/9s and only BARELY got them will end up with 6/7, since some of the requirements are tighter, will get 5 or 6 out of 8 on those reqs, and do considerably worse on the new 9 point requirements. If this tier system is staying somewhat based off of a percentage, you're pretty much ripping Tier 0 out of some people's hands. Even right now, I'm down by 19 points from perfect...that's not very far into the top tier, considering that my ranks are pretty high across all but two songs (just a personal addition).

Quote:

Originally Posted by devonin

For the purposes of discussions around serious ranking of serious players, you're looking at an ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM of 2000 users. Out of the full 1.7 million users.

If you're looking at only 2000 people, absolutely no more than 100 should even -be- in a tier, IMO.

An arguable point, I suppose. However, there's no reason for people who can consistently AAA 9s and 10s (top third of the songs in terms of difficulty) to not have some sort of standing within the system, which is why the addition of a sixth tier is great. It's a huge step in the right direction. All I'm suggesting is tweaking some of the top requirements, because they're a bit too harsh.

EDIT: ok, I'm sounding like Stavie with the personal add at the moment (no offense, bud) - what I'm trying to get at is, there are a ton of people who may deserve the top tier, but might not get it because of the excessively difficult 8/9 point requirements.

**igotrhythm** · 01-1-2011, 02:54 PM

I understand why Molto is an 8-pointer, but making the 1/8 requirement 1.5m is nuts. I have 1.4m on that when I manage to get an 800 combo, which is somewhere after the long jack into the minijack-wall-runningman section, which is the hardest part of the file to hit. If you can get 900 combo on that, you're pretty much home free after hitting that marker.

[/twocents]

Edit: Uh, hi. Finally got the Lolo FC (51-20-0-41: Yay for intelligent mashing!), and noticed that on the page, the 1/5 requirement says "120 or higher." Pretty sure that should be "fewer" there, but that's just me. XD

stavie33 · 01-12-2011, 10:53 PM

I still don't think anyone understood my idea -_-

**qqwref** · 01-12-2011, 11:08 PM

Pretty sure everyone understood your idea (and nobody *agreed with it*).

Personally I'd like some easier reqs too, except in the highest tiers... I already know I'm not one of the 100 or whatever best players, but it'd be nice to have something more detailed than that... specifically something which wasn't highly dependent on mashing ability (which I don't think I have).

**One Winged Angel** · 01-12-2011, 11:17 PM

someone should quickly whip up rough tier reqs and toss them in the game anyways until the new tp system is up and good to go

**TC_Halogen** · 01-14-2011, 01:47 PM

ok

RATO: 1/1 - Req: AAA

sorry, no tier points

EDIT: /ban Reincarnate

(Now, I win)

**qqwref** · 01-14-2011, 02:27 PM

Tier Points: 1 (1 + 0 for 711 AAAs) | Max Tier Points: 1

1/1 - Excite Bike - 100 or fewer

done (happy now, beginners?

)

**One Winged Angel** · 01-14-2011, 02:34 PM

lmao I meant for T0, T1, T2, etc.

but hey, that works too~

**duddychuck@yahoo.com** · 01-14-2011, 02:48 PM

Im all for tier points being an accomplishment to get and stuff but there should definitely be some easier songs. Not easy songs but not ones that are out of reach to the people who aren't pro and still play regularly.

Swigga · 01-15-2011, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by duddychuck@yahoo.com

Im all for tier points being an accomplishment to get and stuff but there should definitely be some easier songs. Not easy songs but not ones that are out of reach to the people who aren't pro and still play regularly.

THIS
I hate feeling like such a failure for not being to get any tier points. Some songs like nine or eight difficulty (What average players can FC) would be nice for some tier points. And the people that are able to get the tier points that are out right now would have no problem getting the easy ones so there'd be no problem there...

**i love you** · 01-15-2011, 01:30 PM

That was a mistake on our part and we realized what we had to do to fix it. Once we finish the new tier point system, a lot more people will be satisfied believe me. It won't be a completely full tier point system yet but it'll be the next step towards that.

**Elite Ninja** · 01-15-2011, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i love you

That was a mistake on our part and we realized what we had to do to fix it. Once we finish the new tier point system, a lot more people will be satisfied believe me. It won't be a completely full tier point system yet but it'll be the next step towards that.

Would you be able to estimate when we might expect an update of the tier system?

LJRoX · 01-15-2011, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Elite Ninja

Would you be able to estimate when we might expect an update of the tier system?

7 days...

-hangs up phone-

**jimerax** · 01-16-2011, 02:09 AM

Current reqs are ABSOLUTELY better for estimating the skill of people in T0-T2 or D4/D5 (official tourney), just discouraging for people who aren't skilled enough.

We're thinking of another tier point line with easier songs.

**bmah** · 01-16-2011, 02:10 AM

That'd be nice. Kinda like "Little League" baseball or something.

**ic0slay3r** · 02-3-2011, 10:26 PM

any updates with the new tier point system?

No? Yes? Maybe?

12-26-2010, 08:43 PM	#241
kmay Don't forget me Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Age: 31 Posts: 6,491	Re: Official Tier Point System Thread hmm wow look at all the highest level players crying over how hard it is to get TP's. how else are you guys going to be challenged on this site? -_- __________________

12-26-2010, 08:49 PM	#243
kmay Don't forget me Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Age: 31 Posts: 6,491	Re: Official Tier Point System Thread I'm no longer T4... but I'm not taking it down. Its nice memories from me "prime". __________________

12-26-2010, 08:49 PM	#244
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: Official Tier Point System Thread Anybody pointing to the total number of users as relevent to this discussion are hilarious. I have the 2251st rank GTS on the site, and that's over a whopping 5300 games. And I'm so far from even -having- a tier point, let alone being in a tier that I don't even count. For the purposes of discussions around serious ranking of serious players, you're looking at an ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM of 2000 users. Out of the full 1.7 million users. If you're looking at only 2000 people, absolutely no more than 100 should even -be- in a tier, IMO.

01-12-2011, 10:53 PM	#247
stavie33 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,925	Re: Official Tier Point System Thread I still don't think anyone understood my idea -_- __________________ It's getting better all the time I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain) The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain) You're holding me down (Oh Oh) Turning me round (Oh Oh) Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

01-12-2011, 11:08 PM	#248
qqwref stepmania archaeologist Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 34 Posts: 4,090	Re: Official Tier Point System Thread Pretty sure everyone understood your idea (and nobody agreed with it). Personally I'd like some easier reqs too, except in the highest tiers... I already know I'm not one of the 100 or whatever best players, but it'd be nice to have something more detailed than that... specifically something which wasn't highly dependent on mashing ability (which I don't think I have). __________________ Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81) Best SDG: PANTS (86) Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

01-14-2011, 01:47 PM	#250
TC_Halogen Rhythm game specialist. Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bel Air, Maryland Age: 32 Posts: 19,376	Re: Official Tier Point System Thread ok RATO: 1/1 - Req: AAA sorry, no tier points EDIT: /ban Reincarnate (Now, I win)

01-14-2011, 02:27 PM	#251
qqwref stepmania archaeologist Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 34 Posts: 4,090	Re: Official Tier Point System Thread Tier Points: 1 (1 + 0 for 711 AAAs) \| Max Tier Points: 1 1/1 - Excite Bike - 100 or fewer done (happy now, beginners? ) __________________ Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81) Best SDG: PANTS (86) Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

01-14-2011, 02:48 PM	#253
duddychuck@yahoo.com Retired Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,111	Re: Official Tier Point System Thread Im all for tier points being an accomplishment to get and stuff but there should definitely be some easier songs. Not easy songs but not ones that are out of reach to the people who aren't pro and still play regularly. __________________

01-15-2011, 01:30 PM	#255
i love you Live a wonderful life~ Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,313	Re: Official Tier Point System Thread That was a mistake on our part and we realized what we had to do to fix it. Once we finish the new tier point system, a lot more people will be satisfied believe me. It won't be a completely full tier point system yet but it'll be the next step towards that. __________________ =============================== The idea that RDCP 3 may come out in the future is a fun thought to have~ ===============================

01-16-2011, 02:09 AM	#258
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: Official Tier Point System Thread Current reqs are ABSOLUTELY better for estimating the skill of people in T0-T2 or D4/D5 (official tourney), just discouraging for people who aren't skilled enough. We're thinking of another tier point line with easier songs.

01-16-2011, 02:10 AM	#259
bmah shots FIRED Global Moderator, User Support, Judge Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB Age: 36 Posts: 8,448	Re: Official Tier Point System Thread That'd be nice. Kinda like "Little League" baseball or something.

02-3-2011, 10:26 PM	#260
ic0slay3r Falangel <3 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Puerto Rico Age: 33 Posts: 2,309	Re: Official Tier Point System Thread any updates with the new tier point system? No? Yes? Maybe? __________________ AAA:531 Best AAAs: Be Princess \| Happy Happy Shining Star!! \| XP Sounds Attempt \| BB Euro \| Gacha Gacha Cute Figu atto Mate \| It's Only Natural \| Shihen \| Epic Best non-AAAs: Summer Time Perfume (6-0-0-0), The Divine Suicide of K (5-0-0-0), Strangeprogram (4-0-0-0), Going On Spring Wind (3-0-0-1) Lawn Wake I (2-0-0-2), Rottel-da-station (0-0-0-1) # of BF: 42 -------

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