TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by danceflashrevo

It started d1 I believe

They may not have seen eye to eye but IIRC that didn't stop them from not generally being cool with each other.

Again I went up against AA head on and I don't recall Haku dropping in to fight the good fight.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by danceflashrevo

if i wasn't screaming murder for storn would you have outted him haku?

It depends of what would have happened in the phase.
In a perfect world, I shouldn't have.

It was mylo and I wanted the game to become more simple to reduce the chance of messing up.

I kind of did that too in Turbo VII as well. I tend push dumb actions like this when I feel like the game is collapsing.

I thought making an IC claim happen would have turned him into a confirmed town and he could have shared more freely his real thoughts about everything.

I mean, this game could have ended yesterday. What's the point of not claiming even here?
Even now it feels weird to me in terms of time for discussing about potential lynches etc.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

I like to think all my pushes have merit, Shado.

Especially since I've stated before that the AA scumread was more based on his reaction and tone, not him surviving. Just gotta ask a question that he'll either ignore or get riled up over.

....and I already used Post Theory.

The fact that he also is responsible for mislynching everyone and the moment he isn't in the game we get a wolf just makes the candy a little sweeter tbh

I remember you saying that about his tone. That definitely factored into me changing my read on you last phase because it looked like you earnestly believed in your push despite how faulty the reasoning was imo. You speculating again is ehh though because we already covered why it's bad.

Also that candy is actually sour, bitter, and tastes terrible because the mislynches were a result of AA (and every other town who voted) misreading towns. This a lone wolf game so it's literally impossible they couldve been intentionally done. That candy is a misread, Lar, and you should throw it away for all of our sakes.

[danceflashrevo]

@MML I posted where I'm at right now. I feel safest w/ dadcop. The second wolf is a toss up between haku/mml. I think shado is town.

@haku This is probably for post game but I feel like if the IC was in any danger he could've just claimed for himself. It's not like he can get counterclaimed or anything. But that's fair enough I guess.

[MixMasterLar]

Never out the IC. If IC gets mislynched then that's literally him being the dumbest

[MixMasterLar]

DFR what do you like about Shado right now?

[ShadoWolfe]

Will address Haku quote by quote when I get home because he wrote a lot of ??? and I don't have much time.

I say ??? because his post about tone is basically saying he didn't like that AA posted in a pro-town way, his dAnce point is invalidated because lost wolvds, and his point about AA calling out his backwards logic is ??? because it was backwards logic and I'm pretty sure several people noted that at the time. Will go back and see how else called him out on it.
Basically Haku, you're reaching and seem really confident in reaching, which isn't making you look any townier from my perspective because of how hesitant your pushes usually are.
More detail on those when I get home. Also could you address my question from when you *had to go* yesterday when you get a chance? Thanks..

[danceflashrevo]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

DFR what do you like about Shado right now?

It's less shado and aa. I have a pretty good track record of reading aa recently. And shado just hasn't overturned my aa read.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by danceflashrevo

It's less shado and aa. I have a pretty good track record of reading aa recently. And shado just hasn't overturned my aa read.

Ok

And what all has gone into your outstanding track recording of reading AA then? How do you do it?


Just saying "he's town because I've been right about AA a bunch" isn't gonna cut it.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Haku, you're reaching and seem really confident in reaching, which isn't making you look any townier from my perspective because of how hesitant your pushes usually are.

Look, I haven't even told you how laughably bad dadcop2/DFR looks next to your slot.
I just wanted to give you an idea of how I've been seeing things.
I wanted to show you that I tried to do something.
If it's bad, just tell me why.

AA has been frustrating to properly read for me all game and I just wanted to see how you approach all of this.

I'm just happy that I can actually sit down and have a chance to discuss this phase after how poorly present I was in D1.
In sign ups, I actually volunteered to be a replacement because I wasn't certain that I'd be able to be here the entire game.
I assumed I would have died like D0 for being a meme with puzzles, but I ended up caring. Basically, life is starting to get in my way, but I'm trying to find time anyway.

I have time now. Going to find your post.

[danceflashrevo]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Ok

And what all has gone into your outstanding track recording of reading AA then? How do you do it?


Just saying "he's town because I've been right about AA a bunch" isn't gonna cut it.

I'm not sure, he tends to be very taunty as a wolf. I haven't seen any of that this game. He's probed people a good bit. I was hesitant to townread him d0 but I kinda excused that because he was in another game at the time.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Do you see how this could be interpreted as a signal to kill AA? I mean, it obviously wasn't picked up on because I'm still here but I'm curious why you chose to pick a specific strong town instead of speaking generally.

I was talking with AA and that's the shortest and fastest thing to type that came in mind.

[danceflashrevo]

it's really hard to put into words

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by danceflashrevo

it's really hard to put into words

You can always do it wrong and get corrected by someone else after.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by danceflashrevo

it's really hard to put into words

I see that

[MixMasterLar]

Basically DFR you're saying that we have two wolves and you're basically cool with any lynches as long as they ain't you or Shado, but mostly want dadcop2 gone next.

aight.

[danceflashrevo]

in order of town to scum i'd say
me, shado, haku, mml, dad.

Reevaluating haku it's really hard for me to say he's scum so I'd say between you and dad. But mostly dad. Dad left for cigarettes and never came back.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by danceflashrevo

Dad left for cigarettes and never came back.

Is this a macabre double entendre joke about dads abandoning their family?
Lmao

[ShadoWolfe]

@DFR What's your reasoning on scumreading MML?

[danceflashrevo]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Is this a macabre double entendre joke about dads abandoning their family?
Lmao

it was mostly a joke, i'm too tired to understand all those adjectives. he felt extremely piggybackish if that makes any sense and there's a big lack of content.

@second quote that i'm too tired to copy pasta.

At this point it's really just PoE.