THREAD MOTHAFUCKAS MINTY 2 BITCHES NEW PACK YEAH

[Shadow_God_10]

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace

if you think your file can hack it send it

your file has to be brilliant enough to convince me to veto a reject by lofty which basically requires me to love the song and chart

keep in mind technical scoring file doesn't mean "technically correct 16th js"

technical scoring file means something like moonshine in xoon 4 red or marie antoinette from subjective mania collab 2

if you give me a vanilla scoring focused dump for weaboo music then it basically has to be as good or better than I Dont Want to Be a Yes-Man from lofty 3

if you give me a vanilla scoring focused dump for not anime then that's actually something I'm looking for actively

I have a brilliant... Awful... Ingenious idea... I just want to know one thing...

Has ANYONE made a dump for "Can't Wait to be King"? You all know what song this is and if you don't you either weren't born in the 90's or have never seen a Disney movie

[choof]

man I'm upset I played the chart I just sent and it's not even proper vibro

[MinaciousGrace]

so does that mean i should not look at it when i get up tomorrow

[choof]

well I played it again and I used 64th trills so no don't look at it yet

[Shadow_God_10]

Got a one minute tune for you Mina. Too short? It's turning out rather nicely. I just have to beautifully shit all over the last half of it. The first half is accurate as fuck tho.

Edit: forgot to mention IT'S NOT WEABOO MUSIC I PROMISE

[MinaciousGrace]

there are no restrictions on song length

if i think a file is irredeemably shit as a function of it i'll just reject it and say so

[Shadow_God_10]

Excellent. It IS a video game tune so hopefully it'll meet your expectations

[MinaciousGrace]

just a friendly reminder that other music exists outside anime and video games

like everything from the 40s/50s/60s
nearly everything from the 60s-present day
everything before the 40s
contemporary remixes or reintepretations of everything before the 60s and/or 40s

nearly everything released in the last 24 hours
nearly everything that will be released in the next 24 hours

new parov stelar album in a couple days
paramore is back next month
within temptation is overdue for a new album

there's a fucking ac/dc ghostbusters remix on youtube that isn't stepped
have some jessica mother fucking rabbit and comb your hair with a mother fucking pocket knife
fucking moon nazi jams
snowflake bleeding heart cauterizer-melter hybrids CRY ABOUT IT
mother fucking stepmonicas
heres some fucking bleeding heart snowflake rap SHIT yea im calling justin timberwolf white as fuck snowflake ass mothafucka
mother fucking rock ballets
forget ballets forget postmodern dubstep this is premodern dubstep
youtube shit this out at me while i was yelling at all of you and its AWESOME WTF
who the fuck is this NOBODY KNOWS but that doesnt mean there cant be a STEPMANIAS for it
this bitch was definitely picked on by mean girls and made catchy pop songs because of it #gobullying
that song your grandpa likes a little too much and you're ashamed BECAUSE YOU LIKE IT TOO
NEONS FILE IS SHIT RESTEP THIS I REALLY LIKE AGGRESSIVE FEMALE VOCALS AND YOU SHOULD TOO BECAUSE ITS STEPPABLE AS SHIT
wait shit what there's more than 1 language WHAT????
LOFTY STEPPED A MOTHER FUCKING TANGO AND ITS LIKE THE BEST FILE SO FAR AND YOU CAN TOO!!!!
actually this isn't really steppable but you probably should listen to this before your meaningless life is over
OBLIGATORY VERY STEPPABLE 2008 YTMNDS
TAKE A STEP INTO THE ENUXPLORED BITCH WIDEN YOUR GODDAMN WORLD STEP A MORGAN FREEMAN NARRATED COMMERCIAL FOR TURKISH AIRLINES
WELL SMELTH THE LOST COUNTRY GENIUS

you can still send me a file for video game music of course don't feel dissuaded at all

[Celirra]

I tried stepping meatloaf for this but syncing killed me

why weren't metronomes invented when good bands were relevant?

[Shadow_God_10]

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace

just a friendly reminder that other music exists outside anime and video games

like everything from the 40s/50s/60s
nearly everything from the 60s-present day
everything before the 40s
contemporary remixes or reintepretations of everything before the 60s and/or 40s

nearly everything released in the last 24 hours
nearly everything that will be released in the next 24 hours

new parov stelar album in a couple days
paramore is back next month
within temptation is overdue for a new album

there's a fucking ac/dc ghostbusters remix on youtube that isn't stepped
have some jessica mother fucking rabbit and comb your hair with a mother fucking pocket knife
fucking moon nazi jams
snowflake bleeding heart cauterizer-melter hybrids CRY ABOUT IT
mother fucking stepmonicas
heres some fucking bleeding heart snowflake rap SHIT yea im calling justin timberwolf white as fuck snowflake ass mothafucka
mother fucking rock ballets
forget ballets forget postmodern dubstep this is premodern dubstep
youtube shit this out at me while i was yelling at all of you and its AWESOME WTF
who the fuck is this NOBODY KNOWS but that doesnt mean there cant be a STEPMANIAS for it
this bitch was definitely picked on by mean girls and made catchy pop songs because of it #gobullying
that song your grandpa likes a little too much and you're ashamed BECAUSE YOU LIKE IT TOO
NEONS FILE IS SHIT RESTEP THIS I REALLY LIKE AGGRESSIVE FEMALE VOCALS AND YOU SHOULD TOO BECAUSE ITS STEPPABLE AS SHIT
wait shit what there's more than 1 language WHAT????
LOFTY STEPPED A MOTHER FUCKING TANGO AND ITS LIKE THE BEST FILE SO FAR AND YOU CAN TOO!!!!
actually this isn't really steppable but you probably should listen to this before your meaningless life is over
OBLIGATORY VERY STEPPABLE 2008 YTMNDS
TAKE A STEP INTO THE ENUXPLORED BITCH WIDEN YOUR GODDAMN WORLD STEP A MORGAN FREEMAN NARRATED COMMERCIAL FOR TURKISH AIRLINES
WELL SMELTH THE LOST COUNTRY GENIUS

you can still send me a file for video game music of course don't feel dissuaded at all

You sir, have just made my night. I have never laughed so hard before

[Travis_Flesher]

made a couple of hilarious charts
freestyle rap
funny trust me barenaked ladies is name of band
cool mina i was needing some inspiration for music, bout to do the ac/dc ghostbusters

edit: AC/DC Ghostbusters Theme Chart

[EtienneSM]

oh jesus christ

[Cataclysm-]

ctrl r chart hype

[Dinglesberry]

Originally Posted by Travis_Flesher

nothing

Can't you just like, download arrow vortex and use the auto bpm finder? Like man even if it gives the wrong bpm, surely it would be a bit closer than 60 bpm..

[MinaciousGrace]

promotime
Eurydice (Cataclysm) - Everything looks good in the editor. I couldn't even find a hint of the transitional section I didn't like so you're good on that front. I don't expect to have much else to request in the way of changes but a half dozen playtests over the course of time usually drags things to the surface. Awesome work.

Lofty's mirl so I'm making executive promotions on the following pooled files (doesn't mean i won't request anymore changes tho!!)
Migrant At Daybreak (swiftwinter)
Nepal (Celirra)
Tassa Elama On (Wh1teh)
Golden Sky (Choof)

[Celirra]

Nice, glad to see you've liked Nepal enough in the end, thanks for the help fixing it up.

[Cataclysm-]

Thanks, should be another great pack!

[MinaciousGrace]

are you challenging me to self sabotage the pack

i'll do it mother fucker and i'll do it better than anyone ever did

actually wait it's pretty much impossible to top yolo4 nvm

[Shadow_God_10]

Whoops I completely forgot about the file I was working on for this I'll have it in tonight. It's my first attempt at a dump file so feel free to dissect it to your heart's content

EDIT: Sent! Hopefully I didn't go overboard on the second half

[MinaciousGrace]

Rocket Racer Run (ShadowGod) - The chart itself isn't too bad, it's just not exceptional. It might have been a standout in 2009, it might have been an era defining revelation in 2006, but so would a huge number of modern files. You have the right idea but the wrong approach, kind of like an air freshener made with sulfur.

The first major mistake is the first half. No file should (or at least, no file that I'll ever accept) be 60% intro at less than half the difficulty of the core of the file. The fact that you second guessed yourself on the latter half is kind of telling- the days of this approach have been played out. The era of harlem shake, son son sunday (even the intro in this is somewhat engaging and fun), corporal jigsaw quandary (the more offensive variation of too long too easy intro, the too long too easy outro), we've been there and done that then moved on. Nobody wants to sit through an agonizing bore of 35 seconds to play 25 seconds of 30 seconds (c what i did there), they can just pick another file that's more or less the same thing but without a boring intro and play that instead. I am also, perhaps, infamous for hating the use of slow freeze stream, particularly to (as I see it) lazily fill slow sections of songs, but I suppose you can be forgiven for not knowing that. It's the same issue I have with quadjacks- almost without exception anything that these patterns are viable for can be represented by something else more interesting, fun, and just as appropriate.

These are common criticisms I have of charters who come from a strong technical background and presumably don't spend all that much time playing dump files. Indeed the technical underpinnings of the chart are good, but there needs to be more than that. That's expected. Unfortunately you didn't give yourself any room to do more, which leads me to the second major issue. Song choice. I suppose in the most recent pages I wasn't as explicitly clear about what I do and do not want as I should have been. Anime ops and video game music fall into the broader pseudo-genre of stepmanias musics. So too do remixes. I do not want stepmanias musics. As noted in the op you can send me stepmanias musics but it's basically an auto reject unless your file is truly exceptional.

Fortunately for you, your mistake provides a good opportunity to learn a more nuanced lesson concerning song choice. Midare put it nicely when he said something along the lines of "sometimes I just want to put on some usher and bro out while smashing arrows". Ostensibly my rationale for not wanting stepmanias musics is because stepmania is already saturated with that shit and anyone can go and download 20000 files for them in half a day. I don't have anything to bro out to. While that is a large part of it, that rationale serves as an easily digestible and simple rule that (hopefully) precludes most submissions that fall prey to a larger issue without having to go into the explanation that I'm going to now.

It essentially boils down to what makes for interesting dump files on a conceptual level. Bmscore, o2jamjams, iidxmixes, lr2raves, sdvxvorbises, all that shit is literally made to be played in a music game. They're usually devoid of vocals. They're formulaic, designed sometimes even with a specific kind of file in mind. They lend themselves to simple technical charting with static bpms, distinct sounds and layering schemes, and clear rhythms. They do not lend themselves to creative interpretations of the music. They usually aren't thematic. There's not even really anything to interpret. They are excerpts from an electronic sound library and they say "here are sounds, arranged so you can hit them". There's no performance, no feeling, no story, no message, no idea, concept, intimacy, intensity, history, creativity, experimentation. It is a farce of music, and sure, every generation says that about the next generation of music- doesn't mean they're wrong. A catchy farce at best and an indistinguishable melange of pre-recorded sounds drowned out by the sheer triviality of its existence at anything less than that. A sequence of electronic signals simply meant to stimulate the cerebrum while you play the game.

It is an existence antithetical to dumping.

Now granted, this is less true for video game music external to rhythm gaming scene. It also doesn't really apply to anime music, and neither does the sterilizing lack of vocals. The problem with anime music is you just get 50 submissions for the same file to the same song with different lyrics sung by a different vocaloid or even more probably by the same nanahira at different bpms by a different weaboo.

Still, you didn't do yourself any favors with your selection. You handed yourself a 192 count box of crayons, all brown. At the start, there are sounds. At the end, there are the sounds, but with a new sound. Enter 32nds stage left, creative opportunity? Not even in the audience. 41.6s was your only real cue to do something different, to say "hey, pay attention to this sound!!". There's no rise or fall in intensity or prominence. Nothing really shifts to the foreground or background. There's nothing to play with, nothing to reveal. Nothing to hide.

It is a poem
With words and
A stanza and-
one layer, yet,
no meaning.
not one.

It is a play with one act. Curtains lift. Cameras and lights center on a man. His face is nondescript. He sits on a prop toilet, and he takes a dump. Curtains fall. Perhaps his choice to not flush is some sort of mes- ah, the sound of a flush. The sound engineer wasn't paying attention. The audience neither applauds, nor boos. There was none.

This is a vanilla scoring file, and an anachronistic one at that. It's paired with a forgettable background theme. A stale cracker and cheese stick, from a decades old lunchables. It echoes a sentiment described earlier "here are notes, arranged so you can hit them". The relative technicality of layering and pr'd 32nds means there's no real coherent pattern structure or theme. The file has no identity. The song has no identity.

And that's ok. But it's not right for this pack.

I appreciate that you want to contribute, I think you could get there, but you need to fundamentally change your perspective on how to approach dumping first. People often advise easing into a new concept or approach, using existing experience as a fallback. I think you need to do the opposite. You need to take something you have no idea how to approach and run at it full force. I'm not saying you need to finish it, I'm not saying it has to be good. Shit I can't tell you what to do with your time. But I am suggesting you need to bang your head against something you don't fundamentally understand for a little bit before you can get it.

I'll leave you with these.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuDhiHSksaA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9-yfeA2JZs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SFNW5F8K9Y