05-27-2012, 06:07 PM | #181 | |
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05-27-2012, 06:09 PM | #182 |
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I agree with this and pretty much it will look legit after that
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05-27-2012, 06:10 PM | #183 |
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Re: New Difficulty System Name Suggestions
I know it's inconsequential, since anyone who can AAA past a certain difficulty can get Oni.. but why doesn't anything past 75 or w/e give Oni?
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05-27-2012, 08:20 PM | #184 |
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Re: New Difficulty System Name Suggestions
pretty please
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05-27-2012, 09:32 PM | #185 |
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Re: New Difficulty System Name Suggestions
Current list is fine with me, I'd rather expert/master/guru had descriptive names in line with the rest of the system but it's not a big deal and master/guru are traditional
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We can't just keep the old difficulty names and leave it at that. The non-R2 engines display a difficulty title, so if a file becomes a new-15, it still needs to be labeled as either a VC or FMO, which doesn't solve any problems. Unless ...
01- Easiest 02- For Beginners 03- Very Easy 04- Easy 05- Standard 06- Tricky 07- Low Difficult 08- Difficult 09- Low Very Difficult 10- Very Difficult --- 11- Low Challenging 12- Challenging 13- High Challenging 14- Very Challenging 15- High Very Challenging 16- Master 17- High Master 18- Guru 19- Legend 20- ??? You get rid of the idea of a "high VD" and "low VC/FMO/FGO". All low FMOs would be labeled as VCs, and so on. One difficulty name spanning more than one number should be fine (as it has been said quite a few times before), but two difficulty names in one number can't work. ... I know no one was suggesting the latter should happen; I guess I just feel like being contrary, because I still disagree with pretty much everything in the current list in the OP. It hasn't changed much since the last time I posted in here, so I'll be repeating myself for a while now ... Quote:
Anyway, next up ... Any difficulty name carried over from the old system should stay around the same area. It will take more time to get used to otherwise, but that's not the biggest issue: the current list would be discouraging to less-skilled players. Everything from Standard to Very Difficult suddenly became two to three difficulties harder. When they should be AAAing Very Difficult songs, all they'll be getting to is "Tricky". That hardly seems fair. And finally ... Quote:
But my third point is that, whatever goes in these last five difficulties, it needs to be consistent. "Brutal" and "Ridiculous" aren't comparable, because they're on different scales: one is violent and one is crazy. In the current list, just changing one of them to "Legend" would be even worse: "Legend" can't be easier than "Brutal" or "Ridiculous", because you'd think a Legend would be able to breeze through that stuff ... but "Legend" can't be above either of the other words, because a difficulty word would be between two rank words, and that's even more discernibly inconsistent. So if Expert-Master-Guru is staying, change one of the final two difficulties to match the other like so: 18- Brutal 19- Ruthless 18- Ridiculous 19- Ludicrous This consistency issue is also why I have a problem with the easiest difficulties. It's confusing having any difficulties between ones with "easy" in the root. I still believe "Easiest" has to be new-01 if it's included, so "Very Easy" and "Easy" would become 02 and 03 ... but words like "Novice" and "Beginner" don't feel right going after "Easy". So, in my previous post, I was intentionally avoiding "Easy", so I used "Novice" instead, but now that I'm ignoring rank words, well ... I'm taking the other option here. 01- Easiest 02- Very Easy 03- Easy 04- Light 05- Moderate 06- Standard 07- Tricky 08- Very Tricky 09- Difficult 10- Very Difficult --- 11- Challenging 12- Very Challenging 13- Intense 14- Very Intense ... 20- ??? Paying slightly less attention to repeated initial letters, here are my updated suggestions for difficulties 15 through 19: 15- Painful 16- Brutal 17- Vicious 18- Ruthless 19- Sadistic 15- Crazy 16- Frantic 17- Ridiculous 18- Ludicrous 19- Psychotic Bringing up one last point now: Quote:
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05-27-2012, 10:59 PM | #187 | |
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Re: New Difficulty System Name Suggestions
I must say Silvuh that you have really put in a lot of thought about this new difficultly system and it shows from your posts in this thread. I like the fact that you have carefully anaylzed this whole thread and explained your reasoning as to why you did this and that etc. After reading what you had to say about the consistency of the difficulty names, I think I will have to agree with you more now on your list (at least from 1-14 mainly because those 15-19 names you have created would go against the people who would like to have some of the old names back and I believe that words such as "expert" "master" and "guru" should be somewhere on that 15-19 list including two more difficulty names that would fit around those names.)
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05-28-2012, 01:10 PM | #188 |
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If it comes down to that, I'm gonna go with the Brutal-Ruthless option.
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05-28-2012, 02:14 PM | #189 |
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01- Welcome
02- Training 03- Easy 04- Very Easy 05- Low D1 06- High D1 07- Low D2 08- High D2 09- Low D3 10- High D3 --- 11- Low D4 12- Mid D4 13- High D4 14- Low D5 15- Mid D5 16- High D5 17- Low D6 18- Mid D6 19- High D6 20- Go Outside Makes acronyms really easy :3
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05-28-2012, 03:47 PM | #190 |
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+1 to that, I like it much more than the other suggestion. A poll should be started if that sounds like what we're going to do and leave it open until it's obvious one way or the other
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19. Da ****?
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I personally prefer words that simply describe the degree of difficulties if we can find though, since these are official things. ps difficulty words used in old DDR, as reference. 1 SIMPLE 2 MODERATE/AVERAGE 3 ORDINARY 4 SUPERIOR 5 MARVELOUS 6 GENUINE 7 PARAMOUNT/HERO 8 EXORBITANT 9 CATASTROPHIC |
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05-30-2012, 07:19 AM | #193 | |
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1 SIMPLE 2 VERY SIMPLE 3 MODERATE 4 VERY MODERATE 5 ORDINARY 6 VERY ORDINARY 7 SUPERIOR 8 VERY SUPERIOR 9 MARVELLOUS 10 VERY MARVELLOUS 11 GENUINE 12 VERY GENUINE 13 PARAMOUNT 14 VERY PARAMOUNT 15 EXORBITANT 16 VERY EXORBITANT 17 CATASTROPHIC 18 VERY CATASTROPHIC 19 TEN FOOTER 20 TWENTY FOOTER!??! You're all welcome. ... Although srs, Silvuh's list is a good one I think. The first 14 are really good, although with the apparent difficulty of thinking of decent names for the last 5/6 perhaps it'd be worth inserting another 2 difficulties beforehand? Perhaps something like formidable, since most of the other good synonyms for difficult would make for repeating letters... I'm also a supporter of keeping the classic ones, Expert, Master and Guru. And Legendary is my favourite top one. As such, starting with Silvuh's names I'd suggest... 01- Easiest 02- Very Easy 03- Easy 04- Light 05- Moderate 06- Standard 07- Tricky 08- Very Tricky 09- Difficult 10- Very Difficult 11- Challenging 12- Very Challenging 13- Formidable 14- Very Formidable 15- Intense 16- Very Intense 17- Expert 18- Master 19- Guru 20- Legendary Since y'know, you'd have to be pretty damned legendary to get any kind of score on a 20. |
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05-30-2012, 02:41 PM | #194 | |
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05-30-2012, 02:42 PM | #195 |
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Why not just 3 difficulties?
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And now, for something pretty similar.
01- Easiest 02- For Beginners 03- Very Easy 04- Easy 05- Standard 06- Tricky 07- Difficult (D) 08- Difficult+ (D+) 09- Very Difficult (VD) 10- Very Difficult+ (VD+) 11- Challenging (C) 12- Challenging+ (C+) 13- Very Challenging (VC) 14- Very Challenging+ (VC+) 15- For Masters Only (FMO) 16- For Masters Only+ (FMO+) 17- For Gurus Only (FGO) 18- For Gurus Only+ (FGO+) 19- Brutal 20- Insane
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05-31-2012, 01:44 AM | #199 |
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In agreement with qqwref's list. It makes the most sense.
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05-31-2012, 02:00 AM | #200 |
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Will certainly make acronyms easier to move to instead of a whole set of other names.
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