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Old 06-16-2020, 08:59 AM   #1
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Just an honest question from someone who has never set foot in the US: do you really believe that every cop in a 300 million people country is violent, racist, corrupted or something along these lines? I've seen a lot of extreme generalizations made during these protests and i'm curious to know if what was said in the heat of the moment is an actual opinion people have of their own law enforcement.
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Just an honest question from someone who has never set foot in the US: do you really believe that every cop in a 300 million people country is violent, racist, corrupted or something along these lines? I've seen a lot of extreme generalizations made during these protests and i'm curious to know if what was said in the heat of the moment is an actual opinion people have of their own law enforcement.
what you think "all cops are bastards" means?
what do you think about the "extreme generalizations" made about protesters?

given the incidence rate of domestic violence from cops is anywhere from 20-40% (the actual stat is most likely higher), I'd say that a good number of them are at the very least violent
https://www.theatlantic.com/national...riends/380329/
http://womenandpolicing.com/violenceFS.asp

racism is baked into the system, our entire country was built using one of the most racist institutions the world has ever seen. don't forget that racial discrimination "ended" in 1968, less than 60 years ago. you can't get rid of racial discrimination in a single generation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualified_immunity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence

not every cop is violent, racist, corrupted, etc. but every cop is complicit, and they will actively punish any cop who goes against the grain and speaks out about police brutality.
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Old 06-17-2020, 09:34 AM   #3
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what you think "all cops are bastards" means?
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all cops are literally bastards i guess?

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what do you think about the "extreme generalizations" made about protesters?
In my country the protests were covered in a pretty neutral way, showing many accounts of police brutality, vandalism from the rioters and looters but also a lot of peaceful protesters with legitimate reasons to protest. I don't make generalizations and don't agree with them, especially seeing how they were strumentalized to justify the use of force.

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given the incidence rate of domestic violence from cops is anywhere from 20-40% (the actual stat is most likely higher), I'd say that a good number of them are at the very least violent
https://www.theatlantic.com/national...riends/380329/
http://womenandpolicing.com/violenceFS.asp

racism is baked into the system, our entire country was built using one of the most racist institutions the world has ever seen. don't forget that racial discrimination "ended" in 1968, less than 60 years ago. you can't get rid of racial discrimination in a single generation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualified_immunity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence

not every cop is violent, racist, corrupted, etc. but every cop is complicit, and they will actively punish any cop who goes against the grain and speaks out about police brutality.
This is legit disgusting, only heard and read partial informations about these things before. But even then, being detached from the actual events I feel it's not really helping when you make a blanket statement about a whole category. It just further divides people into polarizing positions. Which if we wanna see things from a broader perspective is a big problem in the digital age. I would feel better about it if the slogan was against the system instead of the people.
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This is legit disgusting, only heard and read partial informations about these things before. But even then, being detached from the actual events I feel it's not really helping when you make a blanket statement about a whole category. It just further divides people into polarizing positions. Which if we wanna see things from a broader perspective is a big problem in the digital age. I would feel better about it if the slogan was against the system instead of the people.
the blanket statement of "all cops are bastards" doesn't mean "fuck all cops" or "kill all cops" or whatever, it means "all cops are complicit in some way, shape or form." if some cops decide to put 19 rounds into a black kid (this has actually happened), those cops are absolutely bastards. but the quiet secretary who works solely at the precinct who sees the report and goes "huh yep this is okay," they're a bastard too.
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