03-16-2020, 10:34 AM | #2781 |
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Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
phil, i understand what you're saying. but i think you're trying to analyze this based on the assumption that the wolves have the same understanding of the mechanics and rules and priorities and what have you that you do. chances are they misunderstood something or didn't think it through and so their actions only make sense according to a schema that's different from our own
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03-16-2020, 10:34 AM | #2782 |
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03-16-2020, 10:36 AM | #2783 | |
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I've honestly just been floored by the lack of mechanical understanding that FFR has had I've gotten questions from people that knew how things worked years ago, and its just like last semester, someone asked the professor when the final was harmless, right? the professor had said at the beginning of class "The final is here, at this time, on this date, don't ask me again, its on the syllabus" that's kind of how I've felt when people are talking about the vigishot being negated if Boomer dies its like... I know some of you guys have played for YEARS and the vigi has NEVER done that; its literally never had that mechanical resolution I approach things like wolves are not idiots, I think it was you who said that earlier right now, I'm annoyed, because it seems like I might not be able to follow that approach, and the biggest reason why I'm annoyed is because people who should know better, don't (this is more from the most recent games rather than this one, but its dripping into this one) |
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03-16-2020, 10:37 AM | #2784 |
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Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
In the world where Julian is a wolf and Boomer got roleblocked; he's exactly the Wolf Roleblocker.
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03-16-2020, 10:37 AM | #2785 | |
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its a fact what you're saying is not impossible, I just tend not to assume stuff like that happened |
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03-16-2020, 10:38 AM | #2786 | |||||
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Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
everyone is over-complicating the night actions
the julian push makes little sense to me considering the zucker wagon also the traction on him seems too easy from an outsiders perspective Quote:
half this post is fluff this whole post doesnt sit well with me Quote:
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although i think i know who someone is and that is absolutely getting in the way of reading them neutral Quote:
it at least makes enough sense that i can see a wolfteam doing it Quote:
the wolves are a part of the crowd too i think phil is probably wrong that it couldnt happen but not for that reason beware the wine that sits in front of you considering this how do you feel about maples post? |
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03-16-2020, 10:42 AM | #2787 |
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Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
allow me to clarify about vigi vs blocker nk
if the public knows who the vigi is and wolfteam has a lead on the blocker then they probably go blocker everytime ffr seems to not allow blockers to block themselves and vigi could be covered the fact vigi shot the blocker is pretty funny and opens up worlds but im not willing to take most of them to the bank |
03-16-2020, 10:42 AM | #2788 |
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Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
in my mind blockers protect and not just block
everything i said is incorrect |
03-16-2020, 10:42 AM | #2789 |
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Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
I very much do think early game wolves are going to want the vigi to help thin out town. I know Phil says I'm wrong but if I were in the position that's what I'd do. If we move away from that another reason would be after all the talk last phase I think they'd assume the medic would be on boomer making it a waste to place the nk there.
This is where my mind had gone earlier while looking through Molly. |
03-16-2020, 10:43 AM | #2790 |
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im clearly thinking of jailer right now
phil might be more correct then i though |
03-16-2020, 10:45 AM | #2791 |
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I'm like picturing Phil losing his mind and when he gets in deadchat; he realizes that the entire wolf team were the players asking him for help with mechanics.
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03-16-2020, 10:46 AM | #2792 |
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i double checked op and we do have a doctor
so i feel that my logic stands even though im dumb with role names however phil is right that they probably do not continue that for the long term if they keep missing the doctor boomer needs to push out as many thoughts as possible this phase |
03-16-2020, 10:47 AM | #2793 |
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Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
If phil is correct then we're likely looking at our blocker managing to block their blocker. I very much doubt they'd have put the nk on Molly. And looking at Molly it seems like Julian would be a likely block for her.
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03-16-2020, 10:48 AM | #2794 | |
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03-16-2020, 10:48 AM | #2795 |
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03-16-2020, 10:50 AM | #2796 |
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about to get ready for lunch and then hiking
for the people who are on julian i ask - what is your second pick if he flips town? what is your second pick if he flips wolf? if julian somehow gets host cleared then who do you vote for also a question for phil would knowledge of wolves double stacking with vigi change your vote order and how so? |
03-16-2020, 10:51 AM | #2797 |
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Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
i know they are. that's what i'm trying to say. phil says a misunderstanding of mechanics is an issue with FFR players, so that applies equally to wolves and townies
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03-16-2020, 10:52 AM | #2798 |
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Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
I recognize that the blocker is a threat to wolves
the vigi is more dangerous yes, the blocker can out a wolf if they connect on the hail mary anything that can give town more kills is more threatening than that its not even wifom when I say I'd target boomer, its like I know it to be correct I might be talking too much about this now, though |
03-16-2020, 10:52 AM | #2799 |
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Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
wow, the difference between chrissy's play and cole's play is like night and day
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i have done this as wolf myself if i figured i was well hidden it is unfortunate that vigi claimed molly here and opened up the possibility of a double stack if two kills had happened last night i would be inclined to believe we have deep wolves and most current scumreads where wrong molly seems like it was a good choice considering doctor exist and it looks like they softed |
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