TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

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  • Vendetta21
    Sectional Moderator
    Sectional Moderator
    • Aug 2006
    • 2745

    #121
    Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

    Originally posted by roundbox
    My calculation was erroneous, I'll give you that.



    you flatter me
    I mean, it's not like you said you had a 93% confidence interval of Red Blaster being the final wolf in last game. Am I not allowed to give percentages based on my certainty? (this is in reference to me discussing blind, not the 50% stat I gave earlier which is blatantly wrong)



    It will be no more than a shot in the dark, as we don't know if certain roles were roleblocked, unused, etc.
    To restate the obvious, the only thing we know at this point is an Innocent Child and the possibility of a mason pair. That's it. I don't expect this confidence to change any time soon.
    I'm more critiquing not the use of percentages but the use of percentages without showing or explaining your reasoning can u understand the difference

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    • Charles Claythorne
      FFR Player
      • Apr 2013
      • 138

      #122
      Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

      Originally posted by Curry and Rice
      Wait wait wait if you're serious why would you do that? With an Innocent Child role, unless there are two doctors (and maybe even if there are...), one of you is going to die during Night. If you're the one that's hit, then your mason partner can't really make a believable claim (and you run the risk of a wolf claiming mason instead), which will hurt the humans later down the line.

      I'm assuming/hoping you're not serious.

      Also, hi Mashi!
      Hello!!!
      I woke up like 15 minutes ago lol

      Originally posted by roundbox
      There's a 95% chance he's fake claiming. Probably not alignment indicative at this point either.

      Carry on.
      Originally posted by roundbox
      95% chance
      Originally posted by roundbox
      95% chance
      theres a 95% chance that people who reference statistics are wolves btw. its science

      roundbox

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      • choof
        Banned
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Nov 2013
        • 8563

        #123
        Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

        Originally posted by _Zenith_
        1) Realizes claim of chance to have a mason bro pair is erroneous. Differs to V in an earlier game being explicitly certain about a wolf (irrelevant information).
        realizes mistake in calculations, concedes that V is correct

        2) He is fixated on getting an early jump on potential PR reads/innuendos to figure out the setup. Would a wolf be particularly noting what the setup might be before anything happened in game?
        everyone is noting what the setup is, welcome to C9++, a semi open setup where winning generally depends on being able to figure out the setup
        because if we get the setup, we know what wolves we have, and how to manipulate night actions and lynchs so the wolves get locked down

        He was also 95% sure that Blind is bluffing about being a mason bro. Why are you holding back 5% certainty that Blind is bluffing? Does this mean that you are possibly considering him actually being a mason? Would Round know even the possibility that no masons are in game and he is referring to a dead end data point just because the Innocent Child is outed?
        nothing is ever 100% certain in twg, the only thing that's certain in this game is the innocent child and that's only because there aren't fake ICs and this isn't a bastard setup

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        • _Zenith_
          Accuracy Player
          • Mar 2011
          • 4629

          #124
          Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

          Choof why are you defending him on those allegations?





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          • choof
            Banned
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Nov 2013
            • 8563

            #125
            Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

            honestly i'm not sure what to think about zenith pinging out a player that's been known to be cold and calculating for being cold and calculating

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            • choof
              Banned
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Nov 2013
              • 8563

              #126
              Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

              Originally posted by _Zenith_
              Choof why are you defending him on those allegations?
              because he's playing better than you are

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              • _Zenith_
                Accuracy Player
                • Mar 2011
                • 4629

                #127
                Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

                Actually you aren't even defending him. You are more taking the allegations and applying them in a general direction of how C9++ works.

                He needs to answer his motives for posting such material.





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                • _Zenith_
                  Accuracy Player
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 4629

                  #128
                  Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

                  Originally posted by choof
                  because he's playing better than you are
                  And this is why I fucking cannot stand D0.





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                  • choof
                    Banned
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 8563

                    #129
                    Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

                    sugoi ze hoho

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                    • TWG King Dedede
                      FFR Player
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 1

                      #130
                      Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

                      Hi this Nydus. English is not first language. Zenith wolf.

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                      • _Zenith_
                        Accuracy Player
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 4629

                        #131
                        Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

                        Originally posted by TWG King Dedede
                        Hi this Nydus. English is not first language. Zenith wolf.
                        ste zo mňa srandu





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                        • TWG King Dedede
                          FFR Player
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 1

                          #132
                          Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

                          I not understand

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                          • roundbox
                            fhqwhgads
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 2086

                            #133
                            Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

                            Originally posted by Vendetta21
                            I'm more critiquing not the use of percentages but the use of percentages without showing or explaining your reasoning can u understand the difference
                            yeah I understand your point, it was a valid call-out

                            Originally posted by Charles Claythorne
                            theres a 95% chance that people who reference statistics are wolves btw. its science

                            roundbox
                            hi Mashi
                            Originally posted by the sun fan
                            I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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                            • choof
                              Banned
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 8563

                              #134
                              Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

                              Originally posted by TWG King Dedede
                              Hi this Nydus. English is not first language. Zenith wolf.
                              lmaooooo

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                              • roundbox
                                fhqwhgads
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 2086

                                #135
                                Re: TWG CXXXIV: C9++: The Last of You GAME THREAD

                                Originally posted by _Zenith_
                                1) Realizes claim of chance to have a mason bro pair is erroneous. Differs to V in an earlier game being explicitly certain about a wolf (irrelevant information).

                                2) He is fixated on getting an early jump on potential PR reads/innuendos to figure out the setup. Would a wolf be particularly noting what the setup might be before anything happened in game?

                                He was also 95% sure that Blind is bluffing about being a mason bro. Why are you holding back 5% certainty that Blind is bluffing? Does this mean that you are possibly considering him actually being a mason? Would Round know even the possibility that no masons are in game and he is referring to a dead end data point just because the Innocent Child is outed?
                                1 - The erroneous part was the 50% statistic. Everything else was valid criticism.

                                2 - The only thing I've pondered so far is the fact that there MIGHT be a mason pair. Do I want the mason pair to claim? No. Never have I implied this. What other roles have I attempted to ping out? The game will go its natural course. Given the player pool I doubt anyone would show their hand this early as it would be detrimental to the team they serve.

                                3. I'm holding back the 5% because there is a slight chance he really is a mason. Completely dismissing the possibility would be wrong since it is still possible in the game's mechanics.
                                Originally posted by the sun fan
                                I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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