TWG CXXXI - Game of Champions

[FictionJunction]

I'm willing to assume that if blind is red so is a more veteran player.

[FictionJunction]

who likely called it on Zenith.

ofc, Zenith may have also been random so

[blindreper1179]

Yeah, sure, I agree that a green is only useful alive. I don't play normal game expectations. Me sacking myself is probable from me. You're right I didn't know who the blue was, and all I could do was hope they didn't counter claim my bullshit revealing themselves. Regardless of that, I don't care WHO it was, I just knew it wasn't me. In my opinion kills are best RED>GREEN>BLUE so I don't care if I got NK over the blue. I was moreso trying to be a "bodyguard" without actually being a bodyguard.

[FictionJunction]

don't you understand that 1. there wasn't ever going to be a counterclaim 2. claiming for real on d1 isn't useful to anyone 3. soft-claiming is only good if the seer seers you, which you'd never have a guarantee for and is now not possible because he's dead and 4. chances of you getting killed at night were low, especially now that your own soft-claim was ignored over Zenith's.

And I still haven't gone through Zenith's posts so I don't know if he even soft-claimed properly enough to garner attention. We're just assuming he did in order to consider the possibility that him dying wasn't a random choice.

[FictionJunction]

you should just stop talking because if you say 'I was trying to help the greens by sacrificing myself (' one more time I am going to lose my mind

[blindreper1179]

I was trying to help the greens by sacrificing myself

[FictionJunction]

ugh

[blindreper1179]

DABACKPACKS ACTIVITY-
Zenith/me wolves
switches to Z/fic/manti
votes Zenith
truffle with Jrodd
wants to turn towards plop
says nvm, votes me

dbp reads list

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

aight so basically i'm sick as shit so I'm going to probably be asleep through EoD tomorrow so I'll put this out there tonight in case I die

Fiction - I literally don't understand but he has been pretty quiet on a lot of the recent events taking place but I don't know what that means if anything

blind - still is quiet as fuck, not commenting on anything that actually really matters, not sure if usual useless or trying to UTR, he's a safe wolf bet AFAIK

MrPop - He plays a mean wolf game. Only real thing I can say about him is really weak --- I had a feeling that his tone was a combination of self-focused and slightly confrontational -- made a slight deal about his fuckin avi -- how he threw shade at choof and V so early -- this almost certainly is a shit read but that's all I have. I wanted to talk to him about his reads, which I actually kind of agree with, but I don't think he's a top priority today

Manti -- yeah he really needs to come back. Others are kind of on point with this one. I won't likely be around, and this might sound a little arrogant, but ask his opinion on the Zenith - Dabackpack exchanges, I think you can get a lot of data based on what he says about me. (Look at his past me-reads)

V -- he's fiction-tier so jury's out

J-Rodd -- haven't been paying much attention to him

Zenith -- I was most likely wrong about him, common sentiment is he's town so I'm ready to say I was wrong. However most of his posts were purely defensive until I explicitly prompted him about reads

choof -- he's a fucboi but town

Tokzic -- I think he's also a decent target tonight, depending on the rest of his posts, fiction might have been right about the ctrl+f lol

reads are weak as shit but maybe they'll help you if I die

says there's a wolf between manti and I



Zenith-Manti town
I'm seeming town
Z's reads list

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

1. FictionJunction - Null, wolf lean
There is a general consensus about Fiction being town. As I read the 44 posts he has made, I've noticed that in the beginning of the game he started throwing BS red calls at people like tokzic, V, and choof. Now with only a few hours left in the phase, he is asking town who he should cast a vote on; which makes it seem like he's not reading or paying attention--or even just not able to scumread.

2. blindreper1179 - Town
Started game off by instantly claiming town. Like I said earlier, this doesn't make me happy. Threw a bunch of seer claims out at people, and like me hasn't posted all too much. I'm giving him a town read for his last couple of posts. Subject to change because start behavior was poor.

3. James May - Pure Null, INACTIVE

4. MrPopadopalis25 - Null, wolf read
I liked the fact he asked some good questions and got a tiny ball rolling but some of his posts are just weird. He said he was considering something about my hand which wtf even is that shit. Said he was willing to lynch Manti whom is more likely than not town and Manti's posting so far have been just a townie who isn't getting too involved in the game yet. I'm wolf leaning on Plop because there are posts that contradict others; as well as posts that just don't make sense.

5. DarkManticoreX2 - Town
Posting so far is town. Mentioned above, he sounds like a townie who is keeping distance which imo is a bad idea but whatever works I guess.

6. psychoangel691 - Null, town lean
One of the three inactives in this game. The few posts she did type were more of a town going "yeah I fucked up by signing up when I have a lot of shit going on". Was honest about not being able to contribute much to town. AT LEAST SHE WROTE SOMETHING.

7. vendetta21 - Town
The enthusiasm, the thought train that he has going on multiple people, and the willingness to take charge for town and directing serious thoughts makes him town easily. I'm really safe about this Town read because there isn't any post of his that could be scumread besides maybe some shitposting here and there.

8. j-rodd123 - Null, Town lean
Yet another player who jumped into the game hardclaiming vanilla townie and that doesn't sit right and anyone who did this just doesn't sit right. I don't understand why people claim instead of just proving that they're town. Most of his posts are off-topic from this game but the ones that are topic are reading town for me at least, but I'm not too sure. Placing him at Null/town for this.

9. Fojar - Pure Null
One of the inactives.

10. dabackpack - Wolf
Started the game instantly bullshitting on who the wolves are; these claims were against Fiction, Manti, and myself. The whole asskissing thing was stupid imo because I explained to him that I was saying what's up besides saying he'll tear me a new asshole because of the way I've been playing as of late. In his reads list, he says the best target is Tokzic. I say that we lynch Tokzic to see if that was right, if not, we lynch DBP.

11. Tokzic - Null
First candidate was DBP so they are literally just going back and forth at this point. I would not be shocked at all if one of these two players are a wolf. He was also one of the players who hardclaimed VT in the first fucking post.

12. choof - Null, moderate town lean
YET AGAIN ONE OF THE PLAYERS WHO HARDCLAIMED VT AT THE START OF THE GAME. I swear every player should've did that so I wasn't misreading the fact that this seems like bad plays all around. His interactions have been the same old "here's choof" type deal and that's why I can put him in null/town. He said a vote on me wouldn't be bad nor good, but in his reads claimed that I was in the "do not lynch" tier. He also defended me while keeping the level head against other players; doesn't like the inactive voting even though there might be a wolf in the inactive trio. I can read choof the best because I've played most of my TWGs with him and the more I keep reading the better the town read is getting but I'm not willing to place him at full town yet.

votes tokzic
votes dbp
specifically says manti is town < This is what I feel got him NK. He wasn't playing it off, he was specifically stating it.



votes to lynch dbp (5) dabackpack - j-rodd, tokzic, choof, zenith, plop
We know that dbp and Z were town, and I'm willing to bet 2 wolves are on this.

Of those 3 that were on that wagon, both were unsure of J, leaning more town than anything. Both were unsure of tokzic as well, and both said he'd be a good target. both read choof town, but Z made some points of inconsistencies in choof with his reads list. dbp is weary of plop, and Z has a wolf lean on him.

With them both being town flipped, looking into tokzic/plop would be a good idea today.

Now, I'm going to add shit in with my reads, so I guess takes this with a grain of salt, since I'm not flipped yet.

My reads list

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

Yo. I'm thinking why sign up for a game if you're not even going to play. *psycho,james, Fojar*

I'm reading you town packback, because you're giving me the vibe you had from the arsonist game.

Plop is wolfish to me because he's running around being active, and asking questions, which is usually very town, but he's pulled this well as a wolf. I need to see more interactions to see if it's bluffing or not.

J is green (duh) for now, don't see him being a target today/tonight/tomorrow.

Choof is playing pretty town right now.

fiction/v are being them usual selves. One's a wolf and one isn't. Don't ask. Gut feeling. I don't know which way to lean on which one though as of right now.

Zenith is doing pretty well thus far. Green right now.

Manti seemed a little to worried about my fake seer. I may be putting too much into that notion, but hey, it's what I got right now. Red lean.

If I forgot you, you're not making an impression. sorry not sorry.

I read Z and dbp town from the get go. I feel that gives me some credit.

I've been noticing inconsistencies with Choof as well. Such as calling me cleared vt, and then next page saying he confirmed me as a wolf. He also questions me, I answer, and he doesn't even acknowledge it. My read on him is changing to red, but hasn't passed that line yet.

Plop I also read wolfy. It hasn't changed much I suppose.
I said I wouldn't mind seeing tokzic go, so I like he was on the wagon. Might be a good place to start.

[DarkManticoreX2]

2 things we should look at if we want to reverse engineer the Zenith kill.

Who would kill Zenith just because they wanted him out of the game.
Who would kill Zenith because they were reading him as a blue.

Also fic, you can rage all you want i'm a human bub.

[DarkManticoreX2]

M d1 gutread on blind seems like it fired correctly though.

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

M d1 gutread on blind seems like it fired correctly though.

ugh

[blindreper1179]

I admit I was wrong on you manti. (Assuming that Z's free read was on you)

I dun gon fucked up. We can work past that. I'm going with tokzic for now.

[blindreper1179]

Also, to save my ass(and yours) Z only Read 3 people town. Not leaning town, TOWN.
That's you, V, and myself. I feel neither of us should be candidates for a lynch today.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Anyone can be wrong on D1 reads. You don't get a pass because the seer said I think this guys is green on D1.

[blindreper1179]

You guys are playing slow, FUCK.

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Anyone can be wrong on D1 reads. You don't get a pass because the seer said I think this guys is green on D1.

Seriously manti?

I'm saying 1 day of a pass. Not a whole game pass. You make this really hard to keep with this because why are you going against something that is also helping you? I DON'T GET IT.
None of us know who Z got for a free seer FOR SURE. I agree it is most likely you, no doubt about it. But, in the case it wasn't, that leaves only 2 people. Not 5 or 6, 2. I don't want to risk lynching the free seer. This is why I'm dropping you from my red. Which by the way, you're making it hard for me to do this, because you're tunneling on me for literally no reason. Or as least as much reason as I had calling you red.

[blindreper1179]

I overlapped my self there. that's how hard you're making this manti. Like really hard.

[_Zenith_]

I was told I was allowed to make a death post but completely irrelevant to the game so here goes:

fuck me and I died; I had fun playing D0 with all of you pros~

okay back to spectating

[FictionJunction]

if I keep pursuing my blind is only a wolf if he has a veteran wolf player in his team theory, check out this subtle separation tactic:

Originally Posted by from blind's reads

fiction/v are being them usual selves. One's a wolf and one isn't. Don't ask. Gut feeling. I don't know which way to lean on which one though as of right now.

Blind and V wolf bros 2016? U DECIDE

[blindreper1179]

Out of everything I've said, that's all your taking from it? You're hopeless. We chose wrong for the champion.