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What if your suicide saves millions of lives? If you sacrifice your own life to save millions of others, it's still a suicide.
Things aren't as black and white as the bible makes it out to be.
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"Why do you think your family members aren't atheists?"
"I don't know I never asked them" "IT'S BECAUSE YOU DON'T ACCEPT GOD'S LOVING GRACE THAT'S WHY!" Am I the only one scratching their head at this argument? What does the belief of your family members have anything to do with self-perception of God?
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i am a strong independent atheist and i don't need no god's love
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02-21-2013, 12:14 PM | #385 |
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Googled these and they have nothing to do with what you said. Therefore you argument is moot. Kill yourself.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...28&version=NIV http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...-8&version=NIV No mention of suicide in the slightest. Of course they are purposefully ambiguous so that you can make them mean whatever you feel like when most convenient to you. Feel free to try and find something that explicitly mentions suicide. |
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Then you lied. I asked you if your family members where atheists, and you replied, "No". Now you are saying you havent asked them. Which is it?
refer to post #373, let's hear your reasoning on this one my friend. Last edited by JJTrixX; 02-21-2013 at 12:22 PM.. |
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02-21-2013, 12:41 PM | #388 |
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Going back to the whole "mormonism is the craziest 1 of them all", I always find this really funny when people say this as if it strengthens any sort of argument. As an agnostic and ex mormon having been raised and gone through it all and currently living with my devout family members, i must say i have never witnessed a more cohesive element in any sort of family i have ever encountered. My family is the shit and we have all grown to respect and understand each other in ways more accepting than you would find in practically any other sect of christianity or even non religious. Although each case is circumstantial, regarding this topic specifically people just don't know what the fuck they're talking about and follow the stigma like sheep. My point is this basically, i feel that my families religion makes them not feel the need to ask enough questions about the nature of reality and what is and what isn't, and that can at times genuinely frustrate me, but my family stands out, period. In numerous ways i have been complimented by how unique my family operates, and this can most definitely be attributed to the immense focus their religion has on family itself, and quite honestly, i wouldn't trade it for anything. Religion can be a very good thing, and yes, it can be god awful. Accretion, evolution, etc, my parents believe in all of that, they just so happen to believe a god was behind all of it.
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You must be confused then. If your family believes in a God, then they are theists. If you don't understand why they are theists, that doesnt mean they aren't theists. It doesn't seem like they are agnostic, it's more of a matter that you just haven't spoke with them on the subject. You still lied though even if wasn't intentional, you just didn't realize it. |
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Ok so your mother is "something of a pantheist". Is that what she told you or is she not sure what she is? What about your father? Last edited by JJTrixX; 02-21-2013 at 01:02 PM.. |
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I see you posted the same conversation that I did. I didn't see that you had posted it before I posted it because I did not refresh the page. I asked my brother and mother, "What do you think about God?". They answered, "I'm an agnostic." and "I'm something of a pantheist.", respectively. I say my family members aren't theists (at least in the sense of traditional monotheism) because that is what they say. |
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jj will you take a moment to reply to this?
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Pantheism is a very broad viewpoint but in terms of religion, has several elements that tie to Hinduism and Taoism which says ultimately the universe has come forth from the Divine, all things and beings are "sacred" and must be treated so in human thought and action. The quality of most theism beliefs(including Christianity) are actually very similar to each other as opposed to atheistic beliefs which focuses constantly on the seperation of the Divine or the unity of the Universe by idolizing "human thought" and the capacity of "human thought" alone holds the highest degree of prominence. The concept of devoted atheists do not utilize the significance of "sacred" heart-felt actions because they would say the sole functioning purpose of the heart is to provide a continuous blood circulation through the cardiac cycle. Therefore one who's mind is strictly focused on the obtainment of knowledge in "science", will never experience the full abundant knowledge of "love".
Yes, the devoted atheist will never love as much as the devoted theist. Theist - Love > Science Atheist - Science > Love Last edited by JJTrixX; 02-21-2013 at 01:43 PM.. |
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I like how you've avoided replying when called out two times in a row.
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02-21-2013, 01:55 PM | #399 |
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One thing i have noticed about this entire conversation is that many people are assuming facts about one another. I honestly find it annoying seeing that many have assumed something that isn't true.
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