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  • gnr61
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Oct 2005
    • 7251

    #46
    Re: Definition of SDG

    Originally posted by justin_ator
    This is actually for Velo's new engine to be precise, and he already stated that he isn't implementing more than one of the options.
    wait is this just for some indicator by the songs that says you've sdg'd it? because that just seems like overkill lol. use the first option i guess. for tier points and things of that nature that actually matter ofc only raw score should be taken into account.

    at this point everyone's arguing over something really dumb and inconsistent... i've never seen a score like 6-0-0-2 NOT be called an SDG, or even 6-0-1-0.

    there's a reason we tend to specify the term 'SDG FC' all the damn time. identifying scores with labels like this is not that rigid of a practice =.=
    squirrel--it's whats for dinner.

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    • qqwref
      stepmania archaeologist
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Aug 2005
      • 4092

      #47
      Re: Definition of SDG

      If you ask me...
      <10 goods with 0 avs/miss/boos is a "clean SDG". This is more restrictive than just an SDG, in the same way that a "clean FC" is more restrictive than just an FC.
      <10 goods with other stuff is an SDG in Stepmania terms, but I wouldn't call it an SDG when I'm talking about FFR. It's very easy to get a shitty score that falls under this definition.
      Anything closer to the AAA than 10 goods is what I'd call an SDG, since the equivalent number of goods has a single digit.

      (Note: any score that is better than 10 goods will automatically have a single digit number of Good judgments anyway. So going "herp it's just EQUIVALENT to a score with a single digit number of goods" is not very helpful, because if you want to be technical and just go by what SDG stands for, these scores would all qualify anyway.)
      Last edited by qqwref; 02-21-2012, 02:49 PM.
      Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
      Best SDG: PANTS (86)
      Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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      • FontSize72LOL
        ☆~{2D <3}~☆
        • Nov 2007
        • 833

        #48
        Re: Definition of SDG

        Its much simpler to go with the Raw scoring method, if you want to specify that an SDG is clean because it doesn't have Boo's or averages, fine but in FFR a Boo or an average isn't a combo breaker so i think it should still be considered an SDG. That, and I'd never get SDG's because my keyboard is prone to dumping a single boo on every score i get.



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        • mrpreggers
          D7 Elite Keymasher
          • Feb 2011
          • 3395

          #49
          Re: Definition of SDG

          I guess 5 averages qualify as a SDG then. And boos should break combo. YEAH.

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          • popsicle_3000
            Legendary Noob
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Sep 2005
            • 4641

            #50
            Re: Definition of SDG

            Originally posted by MrPreggers
            And boos should break combo. YEAH.
            oh please never this!!!
            I love guitar hero, but the fact that boos do break combo sucks sooooooo much!!!!!!!

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            • Winrar
              Quasi-porn
              • Jan 2008
              • 1843

              #51
              Re: Definition of SDG

              I believe as long as it's an fc and the goods + avg count is less than 10 it's an sdg

              Originally posted by Staiain
              I'm sorry but... *flicks hair* I don't DO 0.x rates 8)

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              • mrpreggers
                D7 Elite Keymasher
                • Feb 2011
                • 3395

                #52
                Re: Definition of SDG

                Originally posted by popsicle_3000
                oh please never this!!!
                I love guitar hero, but the fact that boos do break combo sucks sooooooo much!!!!!!!
                If the game is based on combo scoring then hitting an arrow THAT ISN'T EVEN THERE should punish you as much as not hitting an arrow that is there.. and a hell of a lot more than hitting an arrow a couple of frames late.

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                • DN_Catastrophic
                  Cata_X
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 395

                  #53
                  Re: Definition of SDG

                  Getting an SDG should definitely only be single digit goods with a clean 0-0-0 added to it. It's more of an accomplishment than saying you got 3-1-1-3 on a song. That score may be nice, but if you're going with the raw score, it doesn't feel like it's a milestone for someone to reach. Not only can an SDG that is clean be considered a milestone, it will push more people to enhance their accuracy and become better at the game.

                  I think of it as someone saying they FC'd a song, but they mashed the entire song to get the FC. No one will recognize it as much as someone that FC'd a song as clean as they possibly could.

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                  • MinaciousGrace
                    FFR Player
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 4278

                    #54
                    Re: Definition of SDG

                    yo dog i hate to be blunt but ffr's scoring system does anything but push people to improve accuracy

                    just sayin

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                    • Erik542
                      FFR Player
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 92

                      #55
                      Re: Definition of SDG

                      I would like to propose an alternate definition. SDG to be numbers of goods <= 1% of the total notes.

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                      • DN_Catastrophic
                        Cata_X
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 395

                        #56
                        Re: Definition of SDG

                        Just because you and other good players may not have trouble getting good scores doesn't mean the majority of people that play the game don't try to improve.

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                        • Ninty64
                          FFR Player
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 738

                          #57
                          Re: Definition of SDG

                          I got a(n)

                          SGD (<10-x-x-x)
                          raw SGD (<250 from AAA)
                          clean SGD (<10-0-0-0)

                          Problem solved.

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                          • ffdfadsdasd
                            FFR Player
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 184

                            #58
                            Re: Definition of SDG

                            To me, even though I voted the third option since I think itīs the best definition for a reasonable SDG, SDG literally just means a count of single digit goods regardless of the rest of the score.

                            It is up to the person to decide whether a score is shitty or not. 9 goods clean, the score looks nice. 3-2-0-4, score has a higher number but it looks messy and definitely doesnīt look nice on a personal level but still has single digit goods. Just like how 7-0-0-0 and 5-0-0-0 are both SDGs, but obviously the 5 good run is better.

                            I say stick to the literal definition of Good < 10-x-x-x and decide for yourself if itīs a crappy score. Sure, itīs single digit goods, but the rest of the score looks like a pile of manure.

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                            • Oni-Paranoia
                              No fucks
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 2440

                              #59
                              Re: Definition of SDG

                              Didn't read the thread, just the main post.

                              SDG = Single Digit Goods.

                              I wonder why it's a discussion?

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                              • dore
                                caveman pornstar
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                FFR Music Producer
                                • Feb 2006
                                • 6317

                                #60
                                Re: Definition of SDG

                                The official dore definition of SDG:
                                -9 goods or less
                                -avs count as 2 goods: 8-1, 6-2, etc still counts since an av is slightly less than 2 goods
                                -non-fc disqualifies
                                -boos don't matter
                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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