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Old 05-3-2014, 05:24 AM   #1
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Default Stepmania w/Dancemat Question

I got Stepmania with a dance mat the other week - bought it for the exercise just as much as the rhythm game aspect...

I noticed in the options there is a "Dance Mode" which uses the orthogonal pads, and a "Pump Mode" which uses the center and diagonal pads on the dance mat. Is there any way I can make stepfiles which use all 9 pads simultaneously?

Are there any other versions of the game which will let me use all 9 pads simultaneously?
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Old 05-3-2014, 09:54 AM   #2
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Can you post a link to the type of dance mat you have?
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Old 05-5-2014, 04:28 AM   #3
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...=AMD25C1AO93QN

...Apparently now it only has 1 star on Amazon... weird...

Anyway yeah, it came with a version of Stepmania (3.9 rc2a, it says). It has 11 buttons - 9 pads + start + select. The "dance" mode only lets me use the 4 arrow pads, and the "pump" mode only lets me use the corners and middle pads (although I've barely played "pump" anyway...)
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I got Stepmania with a dance mat the other week - bought it for the exercise just as much as the rhythm game aspect...

I noticed in the options there is a "Dance Mode" which uses the orthogonal pads, and a "Pump Mode" which uses the center and diagonal pads on the dance mat. Is there any way I can make stepfiles which use all 9 pads simultaneously?

Are there any other versions of the game which will let me use all 9 pads simultaneously?
There are no game modes that will allow you to use all 9 arrows. The closest you will get is 8 notes on one pad (TechnoMotion), but I would highly advise against doing that with a plastic pad like the one you have, as you will have many issues with mistriggers. Making charts with TechnoMotion requires a special build of OpenITG (maybe SM5 can do it?) -- if you look around on Google, you might find something.

Pump might work if you have an appropriate adapter that allows you to map the corners, but it's not going to be easy to play. The type of pad you get really dictates the level of play you will be able to do.

Also, just some clarification about the game modes:

dance: 4286
pump: 17593
technomotion: 14728963

The numbers I've put are the arrows/buttons you will be using for a given mode, in the order they appear in game (look at your numpad).

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Old 05-5-2014, 07:23 PM   #5
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...=AMD25C1AO93QN

...Apparently now it only has 1 star on Amazon... weird...
Look at those review qualities. Am I the only one laughing so fukcin hard at these.

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I bought this for my girlfriend as a christmas gift but she can't play it because the arrow keys are messed on the inside, an example of this is the UP arrow is the DOWN arrow and the DOWN barrow is the UP arrow. Also she can't select a different song because the SIDE arrows act like the X button.
Apparently his gf was rtarded enough to key map/config it wrong and blame the pad for being all fukcd up.

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I hate it, I haven't sent it back because it would cost so much and I wouldn't get my money back because it would cost so much with p&p, but I detest it - such a waste of money.I hate it, I haven't sent it back because it would cost so much and I wouldn't get my money back because it would cost so much with p&p, but I detest it - such a waste of money.
This person is so butt-hurt for his 12$ he hardly elaborated what his problem was.


Conclusion, this most likely was a good deal for what you bought. The only problem I had with PAD was, as I play harder songs,the pad moves while I play but that was easily solved by taping it down on the top-side to the floor/rug. Don't tape the bottom side because the foam can peel off.

You will also start wishing you had a bar but using a desk or anything high enough and comfortable for your height works good enough.
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There are no game modes that will allow you to use all 9 arrows. The closest you will get is 8 notes on one pad (TechnoMotion)
Ah, that's a shame - I was trying to step some files myself and suddenly just 4 pads feels really restrictive - the same goes for the keyboard a bit, but especially so with the dance mat as it'd be possible to create some cool dance moves with a wider range of pads...

How do you do it with the 8 notes? Do I have to download a different game to do this?

Also, there are some game modes that are blanked out when I go to the Stepmania menu - I assume these are modes for 2 mats but might there be a way of fooling the game into thinking I have 2, and mapping the input of mine to... I dunno.

In reality, I'm still crap at the dance mat, and I probably wouldn't have the capability, personally, to make use of having all 9 notes... but it would be fun to try anyway.

And yeah, if there's a game that lets you input 8 or 9 notes then I'd like to know more! I kinda want to see how 8 notes feels on keyboard, too - it'd be even closer to playing a real piano!

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Conclusion, this most likely was a good deal for what you bought. The only problem I had with PAD was, as I play harder songs,the pad moves while I play but that was easily solved by taping it down on the top-side to the floor/rug. Don't tape the bottom side because the foam can peel off.
Yeah, I got this problem a lot, even playing the easier songs. I'm way overweight which probably has a lot to do with it (and a lot to do with the fact that even some "Light" difficulty songs feel insanely hard to me...). I have a set of weights (that I seldom ever use) so I tried solving the problem by putting them over the corners of the mat - I didn't want to tape it down. It worked to stop the mat moving, but instead the middle of the mat kept moving still, and it scrunched itself up in the corners...

Thanks for replying to my post!
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Yeah, I got this problem a lot, even playing the easier songs. I'm way overweight which probably has a lot to do with it (and a lot to do with the fact that even some "Light" difficulty songs feel insanely hard to me...). I have a set of weights (that I seldom ever use) so I tried solving the problem by putting them over the corners of the mat - I didn't want to tape it down. It worked to stop the mat moving, but instead the middle of the mat kept moving still, and it scrunched itself up in the corners...

Thanks for replying to my post!

Got that same problem. I taped a thick, clear, plastic vinyl sheet on top of the whole thing you could get from home depot or w/e store.

I suck so I havn't played really fast songs but so far its very sensitive and the arrows still react as if there was nothing there.

I'll take a picture of what I did when I get home.

Yea, I'm mad ghetto.
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