Scary Kids Scaring Kids... need more charts

**Tasselfoot** · 07-31-2007, 10:31 PM

We need 2 more songs of theirs stepped... to go with The World As We Know It for a player.

Get in touch with Drugstore for mp3s.

We already have TWAWKI as a 7, so lets try and get a 2-3 and a 4-5. and then the 2-3 can also have a harder, FFR only, version.

1 month subscription for it if it gets accepted.

Also, we need a stepfile for a song by Army of Freshman within the next 2 weeks. Again, talk to Drugstore about an mp3. 1 month for this too.

**rshadow8888** · 07-31-2007, 10:43 PM

If someone finds the BPMs for me then I can do it. BPM changes are definitely not my specialty.

**Tasselfoot** · 07-31-2007, 10:58 PM

talk to talisman. he seems to be willing to do that kind of stuff.

**jimerax** · 07-31-2007, 11:02 PM

Actually 99% of the process of stepping rock files is syncing though.

**rshadow8888** · 07-31-2007, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimerax

Actually 99% of the process of stepping rock files is syncing though.

That's why I'll let him do 95% of it by find the BPMs, I will do 4% by getting the gap, then 1% by doing the file.

**DrugstoreCowboy** · 08-1-2007, 08:54 AM

Actually i need to correct tass.

We really need 3 files. All from their new cd that is unreleased. I have the mp3s from their new cd, and as a request from the band i can only send people that are serious about stepping the songs the mp3's. One of the songs is faces which you can check out at www.myspace.com/scarykids

also, its Army Of Freshmen (with an E), tass =]
www.myspace.com/armyoffreshmen

**Tasselfoot** · 08-1-2007, 11:54 AM

no TWAWKI? ok. *shrugs*

so, yah. get steppin'.

**talisman** · 08-1-2007, 03:35 PM

oh so I didn't realize this was for a player when I was pm'd. perhaps I'll have to think about extending my subscription.

anyway, I'll think about syncing some but right now I'm tired and lazy and I have a suspicion that the songs are probably like three minutes long and that can be a real drag on my patience.

so here's a copypaste of what I told rshadow (I've posted this before in a couple places):

Get everything set up to make a stepfile as usual. Do not find the gap with sm, find it with a program like audacity (and then you just zoom in on the point where you want to start stepping). Choose a bpm somewhere around where you think the song is (probably in the 150 - 180 range).

-put a note at the end of the song (aka if the song is three minutes long, put a note somewhere about 180-185 seconds in... holding tab makes scrolling faster, which is helpful for scrolling that far in the editor). then hit ctrl p, and hit esc. This essentially selects the entire song.

-put the note selector at 64ths (or as far down as it will go, might be 128ths depending on what version of sm you have).

-hit ctrl r, which is record, and will thus let you record over the entire song (since you have it all selected).

-tap through the song to the beat (aka to the quarter note, most likely) on one arrow. it can be helpful to shut your eyes to focus on the sound only for this.

-repeat this for at least four arrows (to do more, you'll have to have a solo or doubles chart open, but four is usually sufficient).

-now go through and write down (or enter into excel) the average second at which every fourth beat hits (aka every measure).

-use excel to calculate the bpm for each measure.

-import those bpms either manually one by one into the editor or straight into the dwi or sm files.

If you need any further explanation for a step, ask.

Note: this is a tad time-consuming (maybe half an hour total for a three minute song, perhaps longer if it's your first time), but it's worth it if you want to get it right. Also, if you have a bad sense of rhythm and can't tap the beat to the song, it won't work.

I also sort of skimmed over the excel part and how to get things in a format that will work for copying and pasting but eh. You guys are smart kids, I'm sure you can figure it out.

**PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR** · 08-2-2007, 12:15 AM

I really want to step Faces. Can someone help me get this song?

**dore** · 08-2-2007, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talisman

Note: this is a tad time-consuming (maybe half an hour total for a three minute song, perhaps longer if it's your first time), but it's worth it if you want to get it right.

That's a hell of a lot faster than normal syncing methods, really. It's a bit inexact but if you have a good sense of rhythm it should work. The only thing I'd add is to listen to the song a few times before attempting this, so that you are familiar with the song and can have a basic idea on the tendencies of the band to change tempo.

**DrugstoreCowboy** · 08-2-2007, 01:07 PM

hi bump, this needs to get done.

**talisman** · 08-2-2007, 04:59 PM

yeah the only way to get more exact is to open up the waveform in audacity or goldwave or whatever and try to zoom in on the hit for each measure (which can be mindlessly dull and also prone to some human error). and dore is right, it is probably the fastest way to sync rock music accurately.

**rshadow8888** · 08-2-2007, 09:20 PM

Wow, I am horrible at this. I tried it with a rock song without many BPM changes for practice, and I am not even getting close. I think I will have to bow out on this one. Sorry.

**PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR** · 08-3-2007, 01:21 AM

I've got something good going... It will take a while to get this finished though. Hopefully I'll get some time this weekend between now and my re-found addiction to ninja gaiden...

**macgravel** · 08-3-2007, 02:54 AM

I can try and do one. Are there BPM changes in these?

**DrugstoreCowboy** · 08-3-2007, 10:18 AM

oh yes. not too many, verses usually stay about the same. chorus stays the same. could be an intro and an outro change, but thats usually it.

**Tasselfoot** · 08-3-2007, 02:24 PM

c'mon guys... we REALLY need these. and SKSK kicks ass, so y'all should be WANTING to step them.

<3 <3 <3

is the incentive not good enough? 1 month subscription? would some of you prefer credits instead?

ElectricWerewolf · 08-3-2007, 04:44 PM

Hey, Faces is actually quite a good song. Send me the album, Drugstore; I'll get as many files done as I can in the time allowed.

Edit: Thanks for the mp3s DSC, I whipped up a file for faces pretty quickly. 2 versions; an easy one going almost exclusively to the vocals, but factoring in percussion when the vocals are slow or non-existant. I'm hoping for it to snag the easy difficulty file on the player. And of course a hard one, where I layered and snooped around for chaos. I've now patched it up and sent it, hoping that it'll make it into the player.

bigfoots · 08-3-2007, 09:47 PM

as for the syncing, ddream studio can make it easier if you learn how to use it. it imports the waveform and then you just click to place each beat. does gap automatically too

**DrugstoreCowboy** · 08-3-2007, 11:49 PM

electric, you're gonna have to send me your email address, and im just gonna say for the sake of doing these songs.. No it wont count as your batch limit. Just clearly state SCARY KIDS SCARING KIDS in the subject when you send them to tass.

07-31-2007, 10:31 PM	#1
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Scary Kids Scaring Kids... need more charts We need 2 more songs of theirs stepped... to go with The World As We Know It for a player. Get in touch with Drugstore for mp3s. We already have TWAWKI as a 7, so lets try and get a 2-3 and a 4-5. and then the 2-3 can also have a harder, FFR only, version. 1 month subscription for it if it gets accepted. Also, we need a stepfile for a song by Army of Freshman within the next 2 weeks. Again, talk to Drugstore about an mp3. 1 month for this too. __________________ RIP

07-31-2007, 10:43 PM	#2
rshadow8888 FFR's Buizel Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Connecticut Age: 33 Posts: 3,120	Re: Scary Kids Scaring Kids... need more charts If someone finds the BPMs for me then I can do it. BPM changes are definitely not my specialty.

07-31-2007, 10:58 PM	#3
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Scary Kids Scaring Kids... need more charts talk to talisman. he seems to be willing to do that kind of stuff. __________________ RIP

07-31-2007, 11:02 PM	#4
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: Scary Kids Scaring Kids... need more charts Actually 99% of the process of stepping rock files is syncing though.

08-1-2007, 08:54 AM	#6
DrugstoreCowboy Is Famouz Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 3,409	Re: Scary Kids Scaring Kids... need more charts Actually i need to correct tass. We really need 3 files. All from their new cd that is unreleased. I have the mp3s from their new cd, and as a request from the band i can only send people that are serious about stepping the songs the mp3's. One of the songs is faces which you can check out at www.myspace.com/scarykids also, its Army Of Freshmen (with an E), tass =] www.myspace.com/armyoffreshmen __________________

08-1-2007, 11:54 AM	#7
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Scary Kids Scaring Kids... need more charts no TWAWKI? ok. shrugs so, yah. get steppin'. __________________ RIP

08-1-2007, 03:35 PM	#8
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 4,598	Re: Scary Kids Scaring Kids... need more charts oh so I didn't realize this was for a player when I was pm'd. perhaps I'll have to think about extending my subscription. anyway, I'll think about syncing some but right now I'm tired and lazy and I have a suspicion that the songs are probably like three minutes long and that can be a real drag on my patience. so here's a copypaste of what I told rshadow (I've posted this before in a couple places): Get everything set up to make a stepfile as usual. Do not find the gap with sm, find it with a program like audacity (and then you just zoom in on the point where you want to start stepping). Choose a bpm somewhere around where you think the song is (probably in the 150 - 180 range). -put a note at the end of the song (aka if the song is three minutes long, put a note somewhere about 180-185 seconds in... holding tab makes scrolling faster, which is helpful for scrolling that far in the editor). then hit ctrl p, and hit esc. This essentially selects the entire song. -put the note selector at 64ths (or as far down as it will go, might be 128ths depending on what version of sm you have). -hit ctrl r, which is record, and will thus let you record over the entire song (since you have it all selected). -tap through the song to the beat (aka to the quarter note, most likely) on one arrow. it can be helpful to shut your eyes to focus on the sound only for this. -repeat this for at least four arrows (to do more, you'll have to have a solo or doubles chart open, but four is usually sufficient). -now go through and write down (or enter into excel) the average second at which every fourth beat hits (aka every measure). -use excel to calculate the bpm for each measure. -import those bpms either manually one by one into the editor or straight into the dwi or sm files. If you need any further explanation for a step, ask. Note: this is a tad time-consuming (maybe half an hour total for a three minute song, perhaps longer if it's your first time), but it's worth it if you want to get it right. Also, if you have a bad sense of rhythm and can't tap the beat to the song, it won't work. I also sort of skimmed over the excel part and how to get things in a format that will work for copying and pasting but eh. You guys are smart kids, I'm sure you can figure it out.

08-2-2007, 01:07 PM	#11
DrugstoreCowboy Is Famouz Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 3,409	Re: Scary Kids Scaring Kids... need more charts hi bump, this needs to get done. __________________

08-2-2007, 04:59 PM	#12
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 4,598	Re: Scary Kids Scaring Kids... need more charts yeah the only way to get more exact is to open up the waveform in audacity or goldwave or whatever and try to zoom in on the hit for each measure (which can be mindlessly dull and also prone to some human error). and dore is right, it is probably the fastest way to sync rock music accurately.

08-2-2007, 09:20 PM	#13
rshadow8888 FFR's Buizel Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Connecticut Age: 33 Posts: 3,120	Re: Scary Kids Scaring Kids... need more charts Wow, I am horrible at this. I tried it with a rock song without many BPM changes for practice, and I am not even getting close. I think I will have to bow out on this one. Sorry.

08-3-2007, 02:54 AM	#15
macgravel Resident Poopbutt Join Date: May 2004 Location: Georgia Age: 34 Posts: 2,405	Re: Scary Kids Scaring Kids... need more charts I can try and do one. Are there BPM changes in these?

08-3-2007, 10:18 AM	#16
DrugstoreCowboy Is Famouz Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 3,409	Re: Scary Kids Scaring Kids... need more charts oh yes. not too many, verses usually stay about the same. chorus stays the same. could be an intro and an outro change, but thats usually it. __________________

08-3-2007, 02:24 PM	#17
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Scary Kids Scaring Kids... need more charts c'mon guys... we REALLY need these. and SKSK kicks ass, so y'all should be WANTING to step them. <3 <3 <3 is the incentive not good enough? 1 month subscription? would some of you prefer credits instead? __________________ RIP

08-3-2007, 04:44 PM	#18
ElectricWerewolf up for crabs Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 32 Posts: 78	Re: Scary Kids Scaring Kids... need more charts Hey, Faces is actually quite a good song. Send me the album, Drugstore; I'll get as many files done as I can in the time allowed. Edit: Thanks for the mp3s DSC, I whipped up a file for faces pretty quickly. 2 versions; an easy one going almost exclusively to the vocals, but factoring in percussion when the vocals are slow or non-existant. I'm hoping for it to snag the easy difficulty file on the player. And of course a hard one, where I layered and snooped around for chaos. I've now patched it up and sent it, hoping that it'll make it into the player. __________________ Spread asl; C650/1.75x Best SM scores -> SDG FC Born, FC Stage 2, B Quasar -AIDS version-, B Identity Part 2, C Pass Death Piano, B Hamsin Last edited by ElectricWerewolf; 08-5-2007 at 06:43 PM..

08-3-2007, 09:47 PM	#19
bigfoots FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 32	Re: Scary Kids Scaring Kids... need more charts as for the syncing, ddream studio can make it easier if you learn how to use it. it imports the waveform and then you just click to place each beat. does gap automatically too

08-3-2007, 11:49 PM	#20
DrugstoreCowboy Is Famouz Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 3,409	Re: Scary Kids Scaring Kids... need more charts electric, you're gonna have to send me your email address, and im just gonna say for the sake of doing these songs.. No it wont count as your batch limit. Just clearly state SCARY KIDS SCARING KIDS in the subject when you send them to tass. __________________

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