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Old 12-10-2004, 10:39 AM   #1
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http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/...?aid=34965&bw=

Poor girl...

Is it wrong that seeing her made me sick to my stomach?
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Old 12-10-2004, 10:57 AM   #2
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Old 12-10-2004, 11:06 AM   #3
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No. This is why advanced medicine goes too far sometimes. What kind of life is this kid going to have outside the family who loves her? And why are our tax dollars going to fund her FOURTEEN surgeries, when there are lots of people who need much less work to contribute much more back to society?

She can't eat on her own. She can't breathe on her own. She is not going to be able to make a valuable contribution to ANYTHING. She is going to need special schools and special permits for EVERYTHING she does, and everywhere she goes people are going to be horrified. I would never want to put that kind of burden on anyone, much less a little kid who thinks she's normal.

A lot of people are going to be offended, but this sickens me. What the hell happened to natural selection? Even 50 years ago, this kid would not have survived. Just because doctors and medicine CAN keep her alive, doesn't mean they should.
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Old 12-10-2004, 11:56 AM   #4
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Wow.

I'm a /b/tard and that still made me uncomfortable. =\
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Old 12-10-2004, 12:05 PM   #5
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I've never seen an alien before.

Seriously though, that sucks...o_O I hope that doesn't happen to me x 99999
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Old 12-10-2004, 12:37 PM   #6
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It's almost about the same case as Harlequin Fetus except for the life span, but less disgusting.
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Old 12-10-2004, 12:44 PM   #7
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No. This is why advanced medicine goes too far sometimes. What kind of life is this kid going to have outside the family who loves her? And why are our tax dollars going to fund her FOURTEEN surgeries, when there are lots of people who need much less work to contribute much more back to society?

She can't eat on her own. She can't breathe on her own. She is not going to be able to make a valuable contribution to ANYTHING. She is going to need special schools and special permits for EVERYTHING she does, and everywhere she goes people are going to be horrified. I would never want to put that kind of burden on anyone, much less a little kid who thinks she's normal.

A lot of people are going to be offended, but this sickens me. What the hell happened to natural selection? Even 50 years ago, this kid would not have survived. Just because doctors and medicine CAN keep her alive, doesn't mean they should.
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No. This is why advanced medicine goes too far sometimes. What kind of life is this kid going to have outside the family who loves her? And why are our tax dollars going to fund her FOURTEEN surgeries, when there are lots of people who need much less work to contribute much more back to society?

She can't eat on her own. She can't breathe on her own. She is not going to be able to make a valuable contribution to ANYTHING. She is going to need special schools and special permits for EVERYTHING she does, and everywhere she goes people are going to be horrified. I would never want to put that kind of burden on anyone, much less a little kid who thinks she's normal.

A lot of people are going to be offended, but this sickens me. What the hell happened to natural selection? Even 50 years ago, this kid would not have survived. Just because doctors and medicine CAN keep her alive, doesn't mean they should.
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Old 12-10-2004, 12:47 PM   #9
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Old 12-10-2004, 12:53 PM   #10
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No. This is why advanced medicine goes too far sometimes. What kind of life is this kid going to have outside the family who loves her? And why are our tax dollars going to fund her FOURTEEN surgeries, when there are lots of people who need much less work to contribute much more back to society?

She can't eat on her own. She can't breathe on her own. She is not going to be able to make a valuable contribution to ANYTHING. She is going to need special schools and special permits for EVERYTHING she does, and everywhere she goes people are going to be horrified. I would never want to put that kind of burden on anyone, much less a little kid who thinks she's normal.

A lot of people are going to be offended, but this sickens me. What the hell happened to natural selection? Even 50 years ago, this kid would not have survived. Just because doctors and medicine CAN keep her alive, doesn't mean they should.
This is my opinion on basically anybody without a chance to make any progress in the world. If you can't eat or breathe without assistance, what good are you to society except leeching off your parent's money?

And there's about a 0.001% chance they cure whatever sickness they have and become a functional member of society. Functional does not mean on par with everybody else, either.

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Old 12-10-2004, 01:02 PM   #11
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Old 12-10-2004, 01:20 PM   #12
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Old 12-10-2004, 01:22 PM   #13
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I semi-agree with Whorli

Do you think if that girl had the mindset of a 16 year old, do you think she would want to go through her life like that?

Theres gotta be a decision made, is it worth the pain and suffering?
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Old 12-10-2004, 01:47 PM   #14
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Which is again led back to the discussion of mercy killing which we have discussed so much in law this year. They say beauty is only skin deep but.... well I don't think they specified whether she'll be mentally sufficiant. Either way, ten years from now (or less) most likly someone will make a biography on her life.
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Old 12-10-2004, 01:53 PM   #15
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W O W. this just makes me think about my 2 twin cousins who are turning 3 about now and also had problems while they were young. They were born 23 weeks premature. At the time, one of them was the youngest person to survive heart surgery, but that was 3 years ago. Just think, it could happen in your family.
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Old 12-10-2004, 01:59 PM   #16
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um yeah shes a little girl i mena who knows...medical tecnology is movieng so fast now that helthey may beable to cure her some day...yeah may sound unrealistic but god everyone deserves a chance, who knows maybe im just optimistic but what gives you the right to judge someone you dont know nor know anythign about...i think for her faimly to be that strong and protect her and help her along is amasing...and who ever posted negitive remarks...just think about if it were you or your child.
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Old 12-10-2004, 02:18 PM   #17
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I think if you're going to make a valid argument, you should make it readable.

I will translate.

"ZOMG MY COMMENT DOESN'T MATTER".

For real this time:

"She's a little girl. I mean who knows...medical technology is moving so fast now that they may be able to cure her someday. May sound unrealistic but everyone deserves a chance. Who knows, maybe I'm just optimistic, but what gives you the right to judge someone you don't know nor know anything about. I think for her family to be that strong, protect her, and help her along is amazing. Whoever posted negative remarks, just think about it if it were your own child."

Ok, thinking. Would I want to shell out thousands of dollars a day to support a lost cause?

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W O W. this just makes me think about my 2 twin cousins who are turning 3 about now and also had problems while they were young. They were born 23 months premature. At the time, one of them was the youngest person to survive heart surgery, but that was 3 years ago. Just think, it could happen in your family.
Um...23 months premature is 14 months before anyone even thought of conceiving them. 23 weeks seems more likely to me, and even then they're probably normal babies, right? Just small and needing lots of help to live. Still a drain on resources, but at least they can grow up to DO something for the world.

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um yeah shes a little girl i mena who knows...medical tecnology is movieng so fast now that helthey may beable to cure her some day...yeah may sound unrealistic but god everyone deserves a chance, who knows maybe im just optimistic but what gives you the right to judge someone you dont know nor know anythign about...i think for her faimly to be that strong and protect her and help her along is amasing...and who ever posted negitive remarks...just think about if it were you or your child.
Yes, that does sound very unrealistic to me. There's no "cure" for what she has--it's not a disease that can be wiped out. It's a physical deformity. If they are able to fix it someday, it will require extensive plastic surgery and lots of physical therapy (more expenses) and the scar tissue it leaves will make her unable to do much more than she can now. I am not judging her family for loving her--I am judging the doctors who used our advanced medical technology to save someone who is pretty much useless.

And both of you mentioned "what if it were you or your child?" Well, if it was me I'd kill myself quickly so I didn't have to survive like that. And if it were my child (the teeny tiny chance there, since I don't plan on having children at all), I wouldn't approve or allow the doctors to do any of the 14 surgeries this child had to have. I would (probably--again, I severely dislike the thought of having kids) love the child as she was until she died of her own inability to survive, and then I would remember her fondly. But I would NOT allow everyone's tax dollars to be used to save her. It's not worth it when she can't contribute to life, and will hate me for it when she grows up and can think about it. Plus, she's going to be a constant drain on both her parents and the government for financial and other support. I wouldn't want to be saved if I had her problems.

Edit: Squeek, LD, thank you for being open-minded and intelligent in your comments and not just "OMG WHAT ABOUT THE SPAYSHUL CHEELDRUN!"
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Old 12-10-2004, 02:26 PM   #19
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My mom works in the ICU at our local hospital and that still gave her a sick reaction. x_x
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Old 12-10-2004, 02:29 PM   #20
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