TWG CXVIII: But Who Are Ur Friends, Really???

[DarkManticoreX2]

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Procrastination kill!

[DarkManticoreX2]

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We lynched a human!

[DaBackpack]

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You do realize you're the main target for today right? And distancing yourself from lurker, if that's what it is, isn't going to work.

Fuck me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't you be more worried

[DaBackpack]

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I mean granted I'd be not giving a shit if I was about to play Magic, but at least try to seriously defend yourself...?

[DarkManticoreX2]

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I'm worried you guys are going to lynch me, but the only way I can really stop that is sitting here on my computer for the next few hours (which I'm not going to do, because I have other plans) and develop a much more sophisticated wolf list.

The accusations against me are what?

Slowing the momentum of the game?
-- I'm not going to put out half assed wolf assumptions, because when I die and flip human people take them more seriously. I generally put about 2-4 hours into every thread before I feel comfortable swaying the thread's descisions. I got probably 2.5 today which is on the low end and I was expecting to get ~4.

The time at which I voted Xiz?
--I voted Xiz very early in the game because I disagreed with how he was playing and what he was doing, not because I thought he was necessarily a wolf. That vote changed to Backpack when I noticed he made a post that I found odd coming from him (and I explained), and changed to pop later, because I hadn't settled on who to vote for.

I fully intended to change my vote and participate in yesterday's lynch, but I thought the day ended at midnight, not at 9 EST.



So yeah, I think those are the two big things.

[yo man im awesome]

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The only people I really like this game so far are Me/YIMA/Jarrod.

Can you explain this?

[yo man im awesome]

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Other than you, obviously.

I like being cleared, but I don't like it when people under lynch pressure ingratiate with me.

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Also I'm leaning human on Backpack rn

[Vendetta21]

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Anyways I am not going to make it home to get my list. I had some suspicions of Charu yesterday and I think for the most part the reasons should be mostly obvious (since it's mostly about white noise posting and being concillatory) but I found this post to make me not want him dead today, mainly because of his explanation of his questioning towards YMIA. (Seems like genuine questioning, I have suspicions of YMIA atm)

Which brings me to the other thing that popped up on my radar yesterday, and this one is going to seem a little self-centered but whatever

wow haven't played a game with V in a while it feels like, missed you man

ymia said this thing. i went back and forth on it when i first saw it because i always raise an eyebrow at buddying towards me, but then he said this

Lol Gradiant have you played with V before? Like, legit question. Because V is naturally blunt in this game.

and it felt like posturing to a game with mostly new players his veteran status (in both cases.) "I've been playing with this community a long time, I understand it. Here's this guy who took a break, let me help you to understand him."

Wolves do this all the time, This isn't anything out of the ordinary. He's trying to cast doubt over our votes, which applies to both roles in this situation, but it most certainly applies to a wolf's last chance attempt at survival.

I saw that come into effect here, when he used the Deferring to a Standard Play to solidify votes against Xiz. It showed such an undue confidence on his xiz vote (the sort of thing a wolf needs to display before a flip) and it did it with an air of "look I know this is the right call."

Found that stuff a little wolfy all together but mostly it was the last of the three quotes that made me ponder him more seriously. To really understand why I think this has merit you have to step back and take an honest look at how much people are capable of flying by on their veteran status. Manti is literally trying to do that right now. New players are overshadowed by veterans who clearly have a more sophisticated thought process about the game, and this often gives them a veneer of "unvotability" in early game. Any player who has even a partially conscious recognition of this fact knows that evoking that air is useful in long-term survival.

And yeah the only other thing I've seen that has struck me as weird was this

Though suspicious with the whole gradiant/yoshl "confirmed" business, I'm going to avoid voting for YMIA until we hear from him in greater detail. If he really is a mason then it would be bad to have to force him to claim again this early.

Plopadop doesn't want to vote for YMIA until he hears from him in greater detail? That just sounds like being scared to vote at all. After seeing how day 1 worked this strikes me as a uniquely odd subjective state of mind to still be in. You didn't learn by now that voting is how you get the information you want? Do you not want to rustle YMIA's feathers? Is it actually just an attempt to distance from YMIA without voting? Weird stuff.


But no, seriously, we should really fucking kill Manti today this is manti at his wolfiest. I've been a wolf with him like 5 times and he always gets lazier as a wolf because there's no mystery for him to solve.

manti

[DarkManticoreX2]

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Can you explain this?

Sure, Jarrod and I had the early mindmeld, and I've agreed with a lot of his day 1 postings.
The read on you is more complicated, and I'd rather not explain it, because I'll be here all day. Has a lot to do with your interactions with Gradiant D1.

[DarkManticoreX2]

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Anyways I am not going to make it home to get my list. I had some suspicions of Charu yesterday and I think for the most part the reasons should be mostly obvious (since it's mostly about white noise posting and being concillatory) but I found this post to make me not want him dead today, mainly because of his explanation of his questioning towards YMIA. (Seems like genuine questioning, I have suspicions of YMIA atm)

If this first paragraph is actually what V is thinking, and not posturing, I wouldn't be suprised if V was a wolf either.

V (if he's human) should know what i'm talking about. If he doesn't he's read less of this game then I have.

[DarkManticoreX2]

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leaving in 5 anything else?

[yo man im awesome]

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ymia said this thing. i went back and forth on it when i first saw it because i always raise an eyebrow at buddying towards me, but then he said this

This was during the shitposting part of D0. While yes it has actually been a while since we last played, that isn't something worth making a legitimate point towards in the game.

and it felt like posturing to a game with mostly new players his veteran status (in both cases.) "I've been playing with this community a long time, I understand it. Here's this guy who took a break, let me help you to understand him."

That is not what I was getting at. I hate the concept of using veteran status as leverage. I was getting the point across that you like to be blunt/direct with your posts, and that it's not out of the ordinary.

I saw that come into effect here, when he used the Deferring to a Standard Play to solidify votes against Xiz. It showed such an undue confidence on his xiz vote (the sort of thing a wolf needs to display before a flip) and it did it with an air of "look I know this is the right call."

I explained this earlier.

[DarkManticoreX2]

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Alright I'm out.

Make the right call don't lynch Manti 7/1/2014

[lurker]

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Lurker has been in and out of the thread, but has left no memorable impression, and the entire day phase he stuck with Charu.

Near the end he tried to rantionalize charu's weird nonsense that he originally didn't like and "evolve" his read over to xiz. Frankly this whole post (below) feels faked.

i was voting for xiz because a) he DEFINITELY wasn't a mason and b) his presence was unquestionably damaging the game regardless of his role
as far as charu goes, idk, nobody really convinced me to do anything else other than xiz himself

[lurker]

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as far as what anyone else says between now and the lynching