TWG CII: 0rbs of power

[Xiz]

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Feelin' good 'bout that. Let's control the vigi early.

[thesunfan]

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I'd still argue that it might be worth it to hold onto it longer, there's nothing that says *IT MUST BE USED BEFORE NIGHT 2*, and I still think its more likely to hurt than help.
But hey, if I'm the only one saying that, then I'm the only one saying that.

[dAnceguy117]

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I'd still argue that it might be worth it to hold onto it longer, there's nothing that says *IT MUST BE USED BEFORE NIGHT 2*, and I still think its more likely to hurt than help.
But hey, if I'm the only one saying that, then I'm the only one saying that.

need more seer orb usage. that's the biggest issue imo. losing one green isn't thaaaat bad. seering a red is a gamebreaker.

[thesunfan]

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yeah, I guess losing one green isn't that bad, didn't think about it like that.

[Charu]

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I agree, but please, if next night we can't seem to narrow down a consensus. I'd say it's better to hold it for one more night since having one green die is much better than 2 greens dying because we're not sure.

[dAnceguy117]

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yeah I think that's the consensus and I don't think there's any harm in announcing it.

vigi orb should be used on night 2. no sooner, no later.

[Netjet!]

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I just don't trust NetJet right off the bat. Sorry homie <3

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SEER 0rB

absolutely use this one tonight obviously. give your result immediately to the thread, there's no reason not to. it's not like the orb will remain in your presence so don't hide the info.

the best result is obviously if a wolf is hit. we can have a successful lynch tomorrow then. if you report a green result, then it's a bit more likely both are human. there is a possibility a wolf will have the orb and report a green result on a wolf bro, but this can be resolved if/when one dies since it will become more obvious as the game progresses.

SO: use tonight, report result to thread

Absolutely agree with this, it will help steer us in the right direction as soon as possible. And even the seer result is green it will narrow down the possible choices for wolves.

Wizard 0rb

Absolutely use this one tonight as well. Not really much of a strategy I can think of, either use it on someone you think will make a good wolf kill target, someone you think is a wolf and may submit the kill, or even just random it. Reevaluate upon results, this one being reported to the thread is more situational so no big deal there

So: Use tonight, evaluate tomorrow based on kill or whatever happens

Eh I'm a bit uneasy on this one. Randoming it can throw away the chance for actual use so maybe keeping this one until the second night could help. Remember that the tracker gets results each night about who has what orb - if the wiz 0rb person holds on to it, there's a big opportunity for a temporary gain.

Vigi 0rb

Toughest one IMO. Bottom line is either use this tonight, or next night phase. do NOT hold it longer than that, PERIOD. holding it longer is a wolf claim. really if a human has it, you gotta form reads on people and go instinctually. If you are really having difficulty then talk to people individually, create a small pool of people that you find suspicious, and random it from there. There's another part I will add IF you save it for tomorrow night, this is all I can think of if you plan on using it tonight

So: Use tonight or tomorrow night. DO NOT HOLD PAST TOMORROW NIGHT

This kill pattern could also be investigated assuming the night kills say which one was from which method

Holding onto it until the next phase or longer is the best option. It's too risky IMO to use it tonight because of the low amount of actual data we have. Since the other orbs wont distribute until all 3 are used, the vigi orb holder can wait until tomorrow to use it, once more facts have been brought to light. If the vigi orb is thrown out without care the tracker could potentially die, which would set us back hugely

figured the vigi 0rb would be the most heavily discussed/most difficult one to use. Personally, I think holding on to it longer than 2 days could be a good thing, you don't want to kill off your fellow humans (assuming you are one), and should really only be used once you're certain in your choice or a consensus has been reached like mentioned earlier. If used beforehand, it will most likely (unless some other evidence comes up) end up killing an ally, then the 0rbs will be distributed and we'll have to start this whole charade all over again.
*a noob's opinion*

pmuch what I said above. We want to make sure there's at least some confidence in where this is being used.

ok i'm gonna say don't use the vigi 0rb tonight, use it tomorrow night. will elaborate tomorrow

100% this

[Netjet!]

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just got home from school btw

[thesunfan]

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interesting point about the wizard 0rb, but I do think that it would be better to go ahead and use it the first night, yeah, it can stop an action, but it doesn't *punish* the person you used it on if you use it on a human. You can't really lose anything.

[Netjet!]

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fair point, the worst case is that nothing happens and the orb redistributes later. If the vigi orb isnt used for two nights or more though, there is still that opportunity for the tracker to work with the wiz0rb holder. Gotta weigh those options, I guess.

[Tps222]

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I disagree with all of you.

We may only get 1 or 2 seer opportunities this game. Why would you potentially waste one of them on a pure guess? It'd be better to wait until night 2 to use the seer ability. Look at last game. V or Manti would have been seer'd for sure, but we wouldn't have thought that Night 1.

[j-rodd123]

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most irrelevant post in the thread, good job

[j-rodd123]

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how can you even say that last part, yoshl actually did send in his seering for V lol, wolves just killed him first. the only downside to my plan is if the tracker gets killed early

[j-rodd123]

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you should be able to have thin reads on people, pure guess loooooooooool. I mean we can have a seering + wolf kill for info tomorrow instead of just a wolf kill.

[Tps222]

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When did Yosh send in the PM?