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**Zageron** · 12-24-2007, 12:51 AM

Spell Checking would be appreciated.
Please help me with the last three styles. I am uninformed about those.

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Thread Version

v.1 - Thread Created.
v.1a - Basic Hand Positions Started.
v.1b - Skimming the Surface started.
v.2 - An In-Depth Look entered
v.2a - Skimming the Surface completed.
v.2b - References Started/Completed.
v.2c - Table of Contents Created.
v.3 - Pictures Added.
v.4 - Entered 2 Handed and 1 Handed information
v.5 - Finished general touch-ups, thanks to my spell checker skishmonkey72.
v.5a - Concluded details of thread. More information is needed.
v.6 - Added information to 2 Hands 3 Fingers.
v.7 - Upgraded information in a few categories.
v.7a - Did a few touchups and verifications in a few categories.

Before we begin

Reference
Please open The Official FFR Picture Dictionary as a reference! You will benefit greatly. Any terms that may be referenced will be Highlighted.

Key Remapping Software
I highly recommend MRichards's Key Remapping Software.
Re-Mapper
Information Thread

(Note) In Game keymapping is currently available, and works well. This software is rendered obsolete but still optional.

Disagreements
Please remember that some, if not quite a few, of the style features are debatable. If you have something to say... say it! I appreciate all input.

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Basic Hand Positions
- Spread
- One Hand and Two Hand
Skimming the Surface
- Basic Spread
- Basic One Hand
- Basic Four Fingers
An In-Depth Look
- Two Handing
  - Spread
  - Index
  - Three Fingers
  - Four Fingers
- One Handing
  - Two Fingers
  - Three Fingers
  - Four Fingers (Style 1)
  - Four Fingers (Style 2)

Basic Hand Positions

Spread

Upper Position

Q: Left Middle Finger
W: Left Index
P: Right Index
[: Right Middle

Regular Position

A: Left Middle Finger
S: Left Index
L: Right Index
;: Right Middle

Middle Position

F: Left Middle Finger
G: Left Index
H: Right Index
J: Right Middle

Lower Position

Z: Left Middle Finger
X: Left Index
.: Right Index
/: Right Middle

One Hand

Four Fingers / One Hand (Style 1)

Down: Right Thumb
4: Right Index
8: Right Middle
6: Right Ring

Three Fingers / One Hand

Left: Right Index (Always)
Up: Right Middle (Always)
Down: Right Middle (Dependent on Situation*)
Right: Right Ring

Four Fingers / One Hand (Style 2)

4: Right Index
8: Right Middle
2: Right Thumb
6: Right Ring

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Four Fingers / Two Hands

Left: Left Middle
Down: Left Index (Right Index)
Up: Right Index (Left Index)
Right: Right Middle

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Skimming the Surface

Basic Spread
Spread uses four fingers. Probably the most noob friendly style, once they get their keys remapped.

Basic One Hand (< 3 Fingers)
The One Handed styles are always found on the arrow keys. Probably the most natural feeling style for most, noobs will attempt to play like this in the beginning.

Basic Four Fingers
The Four Fingered styles can consist of one or two hands. Probably the most awkward of the styles, people who use this style are dedicated. It doesn't take as much work as Two or Three fingers, but being all scrunched together can be irritating.

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An In-Depth Look

Two Handing

Spread

General
Spread is probably the most relaxed style available for play. You simply have to rest your hands on the keyboard in the position most comfortable to you. ANY combination of keys can be used for spread, making it exceedingly flexible to your needs.
Pros

You're more liable to get a high PA faster.
Your progress will be faster than if you used any other style.
You fatigue much slower than in other styles.
It's debatable, but this is the easiest style to AAA and PFC songs with. Remember that accuracy depends on the player, not just the style.
Debatable but, Jumpstream is only masterable using spread for most players.
High speed songs, such as Lawn Wake IV or any other high BPM songs with a small perfect range, are easier to Combo with a high PA using spread.
Unfortunately, because of the masses of people playing with spread, the majority of files made today are made with spread in mind.

Cons

Users of spread will have difficulty mastering Runningmen and One Handed Trills.
Users will find it complicated to do Rolls with a good PA

Index

General
You play index using your index fingers. Index is definitely the style for those who want to be average right now. You'll notice that you instantly have skill without much work. Indexers will find a roadblock very early, however, and the only way to get by it is by building up your arm, or wrist, stamina.
Pros

Rolls and Staircases are easier to PA than in most other styles, though they are difficult to master completely.
Faster streams aren't impossible.
Bump in performance immediately.
Less fatigue than using one hand, but exponential amounts more then when using spread.
Very good PA right off the bat.
Excellent with J a c ks and Trills

Cons

Only good with particular stream patterns.
Much harder to learn Jumpstream

Two Hands / Three Fingers

General
This style is more for the fun, than for the skill. Roadblocks come, and are very hard to overcome. Your most likely to play this style because it feels natural to you, or the most comfortable.
Pros

stream is extremely easy. (Alternating fingers is a breeze.)
Trills are very easy.

Cons

Fingers can get in the way of each other.
It's hard to keep the timing on arrow correct.
Jumps aren't hard, but a little awkward.
Hitting Hands and Quads with good PA is very difficult.

Four Fingers

General
The four fingered style is almost identical to spread. Though this style uses a condensed format. By squishing your fingers together, instead of spreading them out. They style can be used on ether the arrow keys, number pad, or both.
Pros

Same fatigue rating as spread.
Just as accurate as spread. (Again dependent on the player)
High PA, like spread.

Cons

May had difficulty hitting jumps accurately.
Rolls and Staircases may have low PA, due to inconsistent timing.
Like spread, will have difficulty with One Handed Trills.
Crowded and awkward at times.

One Handing

One Hand / Two Fingers

General
Playing with One Hand / Two Fingers is by far the most difficult style to play with. It mirrors the concept of DDR, using two feet, but it forgets that your legs are more flexible than your fingers. This style is recommended for those who have plenty of time on their hands.
Pros

If you become exceedingly good at this style, you will gain much respect from a lot of people.
The more you advance the less generalized your 'Cons' list will be.
Given a large amount of time and effort you can become very good.

Cons

Everything is more complicated. Your accuracy is the lowest possible, causing very unlikely PA.
A very time consuming style.
Hands and Quads are pretty much impossible to PA in fast succession.

One Hand / Three Fingers

General
Playing with One Hand / Three Fingers will come naturally to most. In fact most of the new people who come to FFR play like this, until they quickly learn to use a different style. This is an extremely difficult style to master though it is easier to master than One Hand / Two Fingers. Most users will come to a road block when they reach a certain point. Quite a few users believe this too literally and think they have come to their roadblock, when they actually haven't. Generally, most one handers will come to a roadblock after they successfully FC the FFR song Silence. Recommended for people with lots of time.
Pros

If you become exceedingly good at this style, you will gain a ton of respect from many people.
PAing this style comes late, but once you get there it's constant. Remember it depends on the person as well.
Easy to FC with.
Jacks and slow Jumpjacks are very easy to PFC.

Cons

In the beginning everything is very complicated and slow.
The second longest style to master, it can take up to a year to get to where Spread players will get in a month.
Jumpstream is extremely hard learn, let alone master.

Other Information
Unlike the other styles, this one has a complicated Up/Down Trill method.
Shown here.
Though it is debatable, this is the best way to do an Up/Down Jump and/or Trill. If you do them any other way your PA may drop dramatically!

One Hand / Four Fingers (Style 1)

General

Pros

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Cons

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One Hand / Four Fingers (Style 2)

General

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Cons

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Credits
Creator: Zageron
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12-24-2007, 12:51 AM	#1
Zageron Zageron E. Tazaterra RRR Developer & DevOps Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: BC Age: 32 Posts: 6,586	FFR Playing Style and Hand Position Guide Spell Checking would be appreciated. Please help me with the last three styles. I am uninformed about those. Please view this post from here. Thread Version v.1 - Thread Created. v.1a - Basic Hand Positions Started. v.1b - Skimming the Surface started. v.2 - An In-Depth Look entered v.2a - Skimming the Surface completed. v.2b - References Started/Completed. v.2c - Table of Contents Created. v.3 - Pictures Added. v.4 - Entered 2 Handed and 1 Handed information v.5 - Finished general touch-ups, thanks to my spell checker skishmonkey72. v.5a - Concluded details of thread. More information is needed. v.6 - Added information to 2 Hands 3 Fingers. v.7 - Upgraded information in a few categories. v.7a - Did a few touchups and verifications in a few categories. Before we begin Reference Please open The Official FFR Picture Dictionary as a reference! You will benefit greatly. Any terms that may be referenced will be Highlighted. Key Remapping Software I highly recommend MRichards's Key Remapping Software. Re-Mapper Information Thread (Note) In Game keymapping is currently available, and works well. This software is rendered obsolete but still optional. Disagreements Please remember that some, if not quite a few, of the style features are debatable. If you have something to say... say it! I appreciate all input. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Basic Hand Positions Spread One Hand and Two Hand Skimming the Surface Basic Spread Basic One Hand Basic Four Fingers An In-Depth Look Two Handing Spread Index Three Fingers Four Fingers One Handing Two Fingers Three Fingers Four Fingers (Style 1) Four Fingers (Style 2) Basic Hand Positions Spread Upper Position Q: Left Middle Finger W: Left Index P: Right Index [: Right Middle Regular Position A: Left Middle Finger S: Left Index L: Right Index ;: Right Middle Middle Position F: Left Middle Finger G: Left Index H: Right Index J: Right Middle Lower Position Z: Left Middle Finger X: Left Index .: Right Index /: Right Middle One Hand Four Fingers / One Hand (Style 1) Down: Right Thumb 4: Right Index 8: Right Middle 6: Right Ring Three Fingers / One Hand Left: Right Index (Always) Up: Right Middle (Always) Down: Right Middle (Dependent on Situation) Right: Right Ring Four Fingers / One Hand (Style 2)* 4: Right Index 8: Right Middle 2: Right Thumb 6: Right Ring ---- Four Fingers / Two Hands Left: Left Middle Down: Left Index (Right Index) Up: Right Index (Left Index) Right: Right Middle ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Skimming the Surface Basic Spread Spread uses four fingers. Probably the most noob friendly style, once they get their keys remapped. Basic One Hand (< 3 Fingers) The One Handed styles are always found on the arrow keys. Probably the most natural feeling style for most, noobs will attempt to play like this in the beginning. Basic Four Fingers The Four Fingered styles can consist of one or two hands. Probably the most awkward of the styles, people who use this style are dedicated. It doesn't take as much work as Two or Three fingers, but being all scrunched together can be irritating. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- An In-Depth Look Two Handing Spread General Spread is probably the most relaxed style available for play. You simply have to rest your hands on the keyboard in the position most comfortable to you. ANY combination of keys can be used for spread, making it exceedingly flexible to your needs. Pros You're more liable to get a high PA faster. Your progress will be faster than if you used any other style. You fatigue much slower than in other styles. It's debatable, but this is the easiest style to AAA and PFC songs with. Remember that accuracy depends on the player, not just the style. Debatable but, Jumpstream is only masterable using spread for most players. High speed songs, such as Lawn Wake IV or any other high BPM songs with a small perfect range, are easier to Combo with a high PA using spread. Unfortunately, because of the masses of people playing with spread, the majority of files made today are made with spread in mind. Cons Users of spread will have difficulty mastering Runningmen and One Handed Trills. Users will find it complicated to do Rolls with a good PA Index General You play index using your index fingers. Index is definitely the style for those who want to be average right now. You'll notice that you instantly have skill without much work. Indexers will find a roadblock very early, however, and the only way to get by it is by building up your arm, or wrist, stamina. Pros Rolls and Staircases are easier to PA than in most other styles, though they are difficult to master completely. Faster streams aren't impossible. Bump in performance immediately. Less fatigue than using one hand, but exponential amounts more then when using spread. Very good PA right off the bat. Excellent with J a c ks and Trills Cons Only good with particular stream patterns. Much harder to learn Jumpstream Two Hands / Three Fingers General This style is more for the fun, than for the skill. Roadblocks come, and are very hard to overcome. Your most likely to play this style because it feels natural to you, or the most comfortable. Pros stream is extremely easy. (Alternating fingers is a breeze.) Trills are very easy. Cons Fingers can get in the way of each other. It's hard to keep the timing on arrow correct. Jumps aren't hard, but a little awkward. Hitting Hands and Quads with good PA is very difficult. Four Fingers General The four fingered style is almost identical to spread. Though this style uses a condensed format. By squishing your fingers together, instead of spreading them out. They style can be used on ether the arrow keys, number pad, or both. Pros Same fatigue rating as spread. Just as accurate as spread. (Again dependent on the player) High PA, like spread. Cons May had difficulty hitting jumps accurately. Rolls and Staircases may have low PA, due to inconsistent timing. Like spread, will have difficulty with One Handed Trills. Crowded and awkward at times. One Handing One Hand / Two Fingers General Playing with One Hand / Two Fingers is by far the most difficult style to play with. It mirrors the concept of DDR, using two feet, but it forgets that your legs are more flexible than your fingers. This style is recommended for those who have plenty of time on their hands. Pros If you become exceedingly good at this style, you will gain much respect from a lot of people. The more you advance the less generalized your 'Cons' list will be. Given a large amount of time and effort you can become very good. Cons Everything is more complicated. Your accuracy is the lowest possible, causing very unlikely PA. A very time consuming style. Hands and Quads are pretty much impossible to PA in fast succession. One Hand / Three Fingers General Playing with One Hand / Three Fingers will come naturally to most. In fact most of the new people who come to FFR play like this, until they quickly learn to use a different style. This is an extremely difficult style to master though it is easier to master than One Hand / Two Fingers. Most users will come to a road block when they reach a certain point. Quite a few users believe this too literally and think they have come to their roadblock, when they actually haven't. Generally, most one handers will come to a roadblock after they successfully FC the FFR song Silence. Recommended for people with lots of time. Pros If you become exceedingly good at this style, you will gain a ton of respect from many people. PAing this style comes late, but once you get there it's constant. Remember it depends on the person as well. Easy to FC with. Jacks and slow Jumpjacks are very easy to PFC. Cons In the beginning everything is very complicated and slow. The second longest style to master, it can take up to a year to get to where Spread players will get in a month. Jumpstream is extremely hard learn, let alone master. Other Information Unlike the other styles, this one has a complicated Up/Down Trill method. Shown here. Though it is debatable, this is the best way to do an Up/Down Jump and/or Trill. If you do them any other way your PA may drop dramatically! One Hand / Four Fingers (Style 1) General Pros Need Info! Need Info! Need Info! Cons Need Info! Need Info! Need Info! One Hand / Four Fingers (Style 2) General Pros Need Info! Need Info! Need Info! Cons Need Info! Need Info! Need Info! Credits Creator: Zageron Spell Checkers: skishmonkey72, ... Stickier: Who's gonna be the lucky mod to get this spot? There are no fish in this lake. What am I going to catch? (Sticky fishing) __________________ Help Develop FFR Last edited by Zageron; 03-27-2011 at 03:30 PM..