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Reach
11-16-2003, 04:48 PM
Link this file: http://www.bemanistyle.com/sims/?id=3227

Challenge: 15
Heavy: 10

Totally resync'd with all new steps, and everything impossible was taken out.

The challenge goes exactally to the music, and is an extremely hard dwi. I've B'd it though so it can be passed.

Most people should be able to pass the heavy steps. GL, HF.

altairian
11-16-2003, 07:16 PM
Wow, I just played the challenge steps and...wow
hehe
those jackhammers near the end are just mean ;)

Nice work though, that must have been a bitch to sync. Heavy steps are well done IMO, they're not too hard for losers like me ;)

Jello
11-17-2003, 01:11 AM
C challange. last post for ffr. bye

Moogy
11-17-2003, 09:23 AM
Ok, never mind what I said before.

Syncing is bad.

I just played it on .5x and I got tons of greats and goods.

Sorry, Reach.

EDEdDNEdDYFaN
11-17-2003, 06:26 PM
Any song with more than 2 jack hammers I instantly suck at (K8107=RAWR) but stepfile is great and really challanging

Reach
11-17-2003, 06:56 PM
thats why i put jackhammers. nobody is good at them.....so good practise.

and it also went with the music.

makaveli121212
11-17-2003, 08:39 PM
i dont even know what the hell that is

Arch0wl
11-18-2003, 10:48 AM
Honestly Reach, do you ever even check your lower level steps for syncing before you release them? The steps go offsync like halfway into the song. HORRIBLY offsync. Ice Climber is not a good song to DWI. It had many small bpm changes that you didn't input. I always judge simfiles from a professional(bemanistyle) POV and since most people on here are not used to that many good simfiles I guess they don't notice.

I B'ed it after a few tries but please Reach, don't follow in my footsteps and make a stupidly hard, poorly synced DWI(Payon v1) early in your Simfile making career.

altairian
11-18-2003, 12:18 PM
The steps go offsync? I didn't notice and I'm usually pretty good at spotting these things... I'll have to go look for that ;)

Moogy
11-18-2003, 12:22 PM
I guess I just suck at telling if something is onsync, then.

Meh.

altairian
11-18-2003, 12:33 PM
I think I know where arch is talking about (the giant run of 32nds) but IMO it's not a big deal. I've run in to much more offsync stuff that people thought was sync'ed perfectly =\

Reach
11-18-2003, 01:06 PM
well.....i tryed. I made it as sync'd as i could....like i played it alot on 0.5....the end section was just hard to make out at that speed. that song is just hard to do....and i had no idea there was bpm changes... yea...

as for checking lower level steps....i do. that dwi honestly took me about 30 min a day....for about 2 weeks. Meh im a noob at this xD

And.....ack i just can't help making stepfiles hard.....i just do it cause i like to push the limits :?

thanks though....crits never hurt.

Arch0wl
11-18-2003, 01:28 PM
No, you guys, play the heavy. Stop trying to bother with the hard steps. Play the heavy and if you can't notice the obvious offsyncing then.. fuck I hope you never make simfiles :\

Reach
11-18-2003, 01:32 PM
i don't care about the heavy steps honestly....xD

did them in 20 mins. fuck it. they're almost the same steps just removed alot of shit and uh....yea, kinda fucked up the end part.

Are the challenge steps off? Seriousily....i don't see where they are. I guess the run parts....but it gets repetitive and like impossible without them.

Olo 2000 posts again. You negro.

Arch0wl
11-18-2003, 01:38 PM
You play the heavy steps to judge the SYNCING, not how well the fucking arrows go to the music(actually, both, cause if the syncing is off, the arrows don't go to the music). Honestly did you even play them once before you released them? -_-

The song in general is offsync, horribly. Period. On the heavy my marvelouses turned into greats just like that.

Reach
11-18-2003, 01:42 PM
im not being dumb

i simply don't know. What exactally do you mean by syncing then?

its so weird. i swear to god it goes so well on this pc :? my marvs were just marvs....

and yea i played them like 10 times or so.

Arch0wl
11-18-2003, 02:14 PM
Syncing. What's there to explain, the arrows go offsync where they would be orange instead of yellow and red and blue.

altairian
11-18-2003, 02:45 PM
wow, someone's a perfectionist? It takes experience to get better at sync'ing, bottom line. Stop bitching at reach for using 32nds to make the arrows on beat rather than beating his head against a wall to find a small BPM change.

If you don't like the steps, don't play it. End of story.

Reach
11-18-2003, 03:13 PM
well.....i halfed the bpm

so 8ths are 16ths

and 32nds would be like using 16ths.

i didn't like playing it at 190 bpm....i thought it was insane on 3x and kinda slow on 2x....yea. so i halfed the bpm cause it played very nicely on 5x.

Arch0wl
11-18-2003, 03:36 PM
wow, someone's a perfectionist? It takes experience to get better at sync'ing, bottom line. Stop bitching at reach for using 32nds to make the arrows on beat rather than beating his head against a wall to find a small BPM change.

If you don't like the steps, don't play it. End of story.

Wow holy shit you don't have a fucking clue what the hell you're talking about. End of story. ANY simfile reviewer on bemanistyle would be so much harsher than me and just delete the simfile outright you fucking dimwit.

PLAY

THE HEAVY STEPS

YOU GODDAMN IDIOT

WHAT

IS THERE MORE

TO UNDERSTAND

ARE YOU THAT FUCKING DENSE

OR ARE YOU JUST THAT IGNORANT TO STEPFILES

THE 16TH NOTE STREAMS

GO HEAVILY OFFBEAT

I WAS NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE 32ND NOTES

READ

MY DAMN

POST

And stop trying to argue about things you don't understand. You don't make simfiles and you obviously don't understand terminology. I'll criticize things if I don't like them. Get over it.

End

of

fucking

story.

Reach
11-18-2003, 03:49 PM
This wasn't an argument.

Screw you. How am I supost to get better if I don't know what the fuck you're talking about? Breathe...

I was looking for crits. I know i don't know what im talking about....so when i try and find out some stuff you don't have to lose your freaking cracker over it.

Yes...end of story. I'll go stepfile something....easier to stepfile. heh

Arch0wl
11-18-2003, 04:20 PM
I was talking to altarian.

NOT YOU.

Offsync means the arrows are just that. Offsync. They don't register right. You'll be getting anywhere from mass perfects to mass boos(boos only if it's HORRIBLY offsync) depending on how offsync it is. You should be getting mass marvelous. To fix offsyncing if a song goes offsync, this usually requires a bpm change, or a stop.

Offbeat means it has yellow arrow syndrome/orange arrow syndrome. This is 50% of the time caused by someone using 0 gap on a song, and the other 50% of the time caused by the song going offbeat. If the song goes offbeat, then this usually requires a stop to fix, or maybe a bpm change.

Sometimes I accidently mix up the two, but oh well.

altairian
11-18-2003, 04:33 PM
First of all, I'm not good enough to beat the challenge steps, you would know that if you pulled your head out of your ass for half a second and remembered anything I post on the brag board. I played the heavy steps specifically looking for offbeat arrows.
Like I said before, you're being a perfectionist. The stepfile is good, you just enjoy being a fucking hormonal teenage punk way too much. Yelling at people doesn't get anything accomplished. If you're going to be this critical of Reach's stepfile, why don't you use all your amazing stepfile wisdom and OFFER SOME FUCKING ADVICE.

Offsync means the arrows are just that. Offsync. They don't register right.

Offbeat means it has yellow arrow syndrome/orange arrow syndrome.
??
Try the other way around. Offbeat means the arrows AREN'T ON THE BEAT. Hence the term, dumbass. Offsync means that the sync'ing (aka BPM and gap) is off, therefore the file has 12th/16th/24th/32nd notes where it should be fourth and eighth notes.
Why don't YOU learn wtf you're talking about before opening your mouth again? :p

Reach
11-18-2003, 04:33 PM
OLOLOLO

K my bad. hahaha. oops :)

and ill work on it.....im not touching that song though.

makaveli121212
11-18-2003, 05:30 PM
so...whats a jack hammer

altairian
11-18-2003, 06:04 PM
a jackhammer is when it's the same step many times in a row, like this:
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the jackhammer's in the challenge steps are pretty long, and quite fast (i can't even do them... =( )

Moogy
11-18-2003, 06:25 PM
Cynic and K8107 have the most notorious jackhammers, if you're looking for examples of songs with them.

...Yet another topic falls prey to offtopicness.

makaveli121212
11-18-2003, 07:53 PM
a jackhammer is when it's the same step many times in a row, like this:
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the jackhammer's in the challenge steps are pretty long, and quite fast (i can't even do them... =( )

oh yeah i hate that shit...kills me when im tryin to AA abyss or insertion...on DDR of course

plasmix
11-18-2003, 09:10 PM
One word comes to mind when doing a jackhammer on DDR. Titterwinkle.

Arch0wl
11-19-2003, 03:51 AM
Yet again altarian proves he knows nothing by arguing with someone about simfiles who has made many in the past.

First of all, I'm not good enough to beat the challenge steps, you would know that if you pulled your head out of your ass for half a second and remembered anything I post on the brag board. I played the heavy steps specifically looking for offbeat arrows.

HAHAHAHAH, you're serious? Wow, if you couldn't find how it goes heavily offsync in there, then you're just fucking dumb. It's so obvious that I can't even begin to explain. The heavy steps got more out of sync than aperson's club.

Like I said before, you're being a perfectionist.

No, unlike you, I can tell when a simfile is obviously offsync.

The stepfile is good

ANY sims mod on bemanistyle will disagree with you.

you just enjoy being a #$#ing hormonal teenage punk way too much. Yelling at people doesn't get anything accomplished.

Sure it does.

If you're going to be this critical of Reach's stepfile, why don't you use all your amazing stepfile wisdom and OFFER SOME FUCKING ADVICE.


I did offer some advice, you're being ignorant.

To fix offsyncing if a song goes offsync, this usually requires a bpm change, or a stop.

??
Try the other way around. Offbeat means the arrows AREN'T ON THE BEAT. Hence the term, dumbass.

Wow holy shit.

How ignorant can you be, seriously. It's like not finding waldo when he's less than a millimeter away from where you're looking.

If the file has YAS/OAS, then it's not on the beat. This should be common sense, but then again, for you, I don't know.

Offsync means that the sync'ing (aka BPM and gap) is off, therefore the file has 12th/16th/24th/32nd notes where it should be fourth and eighth notes.


Offsync means the BPM or gap is off so that the arrows don't match up with the music. You're talking about offbeat, which I explained earlier.

Honestly, I make simfiles, I'm WAY more into the scene than you are.

altairian
11-19-2003, 08:29 AM
holy f'ing moses, you're such a retard.
We're not even arguing stepfiling here, we're arguing music, where I sincerely doubt you have any advantage over me.
Arrows not on beat = Offbeat. End of discussion. It's very similar to your concept of offsync, and solved in the same way, except that it's a much more newbie mistake. Also, lots of songs on FFR are offbeat because of the problems with calculating gap. Just think of it as someone in a band playing the notes either a tiny bit before or a tiny bit after everyone else in the band does.
When they use 12th/16th/24th/32nd notes to fix the fact that their fourths and eighths are offbeat, that's offsync.
Use your damn brain.

WTF does part of the song being offsync matter as long as it's onbeat?

Arch0wl
11-19-2003, 10:53 AM
Nevermind. You don't understand the simfile community/lingo/simfiles or anything outside FFR so it's pointless arguing on here. My points would be just repeating my old ones.

If you want to take this further, post this on bemanistyle in the DDR Simulation forum.

altairian
11-19-2003, 11:39 AM
Sorry I guess I'm not privelaged enough to be dumb and wrong like you are Arch.
thx for playing, bye bye now :p

Moogy
11-19-2003, 02:57 PM
Altairian is a fucking dumbass.

That's all I have to say.

xDdRmAnIaCx
11-19-2003, 05:42 PM
You are right.
That is all I have to say.

makaveli121212
11-19-2003, 09:14 PM
i dont have anything to say...so thats all i ahev to say

altairian
11-19-2003, 10:27 PM
Altairian is a fucking dumbass.

That's all I have to say.

Mind backing up that statement or are you going to be a wuss and run away before you say anything stupid?
If you can reasonably explain to me why what I'm saying is incorrect, then I'll admit I was wrong and apologize. So far all arch has done is spew forth some simfile cultist rhetoric about how being a simfile creator automatically makes him smarter than me.

plasmix
11-20-2003, 07:29 AM
Have you created any stepfiles?

altairian
11-20-2003, 10:43 AM
yes

plasmix
11-20-2003, 04:42 PM
Let's see them.

altairian
11-20-2003, 08:36 PM
one's posted on this forum.

plasmix
11-20-2003, 09:10 PM
You have made one. Arch has made dozens. Who has more experience?

altairian
11-20-2003, 10:43 PM
How do you know how many I've made?

plasmix
11-21-2003, 06:54 AM
I don't.

BECAUSE NO ONE'S FREAKING HEARD OF YOU.

altairian
11-21-2003, 10:22 AM
and that means what?

tnyhwk900
11-21-2003, 03:14 PM
THAT MEANS THAT YOU OVIOUSLY MAKE SHITTY STEPFILES, BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT YOU.

altairian
11-21-2003, 03:52 PM
No, that means you're assuming I make shitty stepfiles even though you've never played any stepfile made by me. You assume that everyone publishes every stepfile that they create.
In short, you assume too much. :p

Ridge
11-25-2003, 09:18 PM
damn u guys are haters :X

tnyhwk900
11-25-2003, 09:19 PM
This topic is DEAD.

chillywilly
11-25-2003, 09:22 PM
hey reach, whats up with "Boa Nation"?

altairian
11-25-2003, 09:25 PM
PM's are your friend.

Ridge
11-27-2003, 08:51 PM
damn you guys are haters :X