TWG VI - Post Game

[lightdarkness]

Several things to point out here.

Kefit, the seer, was not too lucky. Out of all 4 nights, he was unable to Seer a wolf, and not even the master wolf, Squeek.

There wasn't much to go on this game, because the wolves did a good job of keeping quite ;-P Newcomer Tps did a great job in ensuring a wolf team victory.

The huge mistake made by the humans, was Alain revealing himself as the guardian, and 87x's phantom vote on day one. Without that vote, the wolves could only ensure a knife-in-box senario until they perhaps won it.

Also, 87x's kill of eyespew on day 5 gave the wolves the chance to instalynch 87x, it was only a matter of time to get all 3 wolves online at the same time.

Excellent game played by both parties, and that even's up the total to 3 wins for the wolves, and 3 wins for the humans.

The thread for VII will be posted soon, and opened tomorrow. If you are intersted in hosting, PM or IM me.

MVP this game goes to TPS, for being a great first time player/wolf, and coming up with the idea of instalynching 87x. Great game all.

[Lupin_the_3rd]

hah...some humans acted so suspiciously during that game- threw me off there a lot.

kudos to the wolves for a flawless victory

[evilbutterfly]

Too bad I couldn't participate in this one. Cya in the next TWG!

And congrats to those wily wolves.

[Tasselfoot]

ok... first of all... i need to get this off my chest.

NO WOLF IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WILL EVER COMMIT HARI-KARI. IT IS MATHEMATICALLY INCORRECT. IT IS LOGICALLY INCORRECT. AND IT IS JUST PLAIN OUT STUPID FOR ANYONE TO BELIEVE THAT ONE PERSON WOULD BE WILLING TO KILL THEMSELVES FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF THE TEAM... PLUS THE FACT THAT IN THIS GAME, THERE WAS HARDLY SUSPICION ON THE WOLVES, SO THEY HAVE NO REASON TO KILL THEMSELVES.

argh. i've been meaning to say that for days now. also, i am flat out ashamed at Blah and Alain. you two were manipulated into killing me and not smart enough to realize the errors of your ways. hell, you were too chicken to even confront me about it, knowing that i could convince you to not kill me. HAD YOU LISTENED TO ME, cypher would have died on day 1 and tps would have died on day 2. it turns out that me switching from cypher to snapps on day 1 was also part of what got me killed on day 2.

another note... WTF WERE YOU DOING KEFIT?!?!?!
1. why did you not contact myself or blah.
2. why were you unable to put 2+2 together on day 4... you had enough information to peg at least 2 wolves through inactivaty alone.
3. why did you reveal yourself as the seer when you KNEW the guardian was dead.

i put the absolute blame for this human loss on the shoulders of Kefit. you messed up BIG.

for the wolves... you played very well, and also got lucky. Blah managed to talk me out of voting for cypher (still not sure why i listened) on day 1, thereby allowing you to not have to make an early move to save him... and then convincing alain and blah to gangrape me on day 2 when otherwise tps would have died.... and lastly taking advantage of having COMPLETE AND UTTER MORONS playing the endgame.

i will finish with my time honored words... when i am involved with the seer, my side wins. got the seer killed on day 1 in both 1 and 4, and in games 2, 3, and 5 i worked with either the real seer or a fake one. so if we learn nothing else from this horrid display of critical thinking... TRUST THE TASS.

oh yes, that leads me to my final thought... HUMAN PARANOIA IS THE KEY TO WOLF VICTORY. why do i win? is it because i'm the smartest? probably not (q, squeek, chardish, guido, etc are all quite intelligent). it is because I TRUST PEOPLE. i'm sure that since i go out and say this, its going to change.... but people who are wolves fear me. they know i can pick apart their conversations and see deep into their soul. so they do not IM me. only humans do. (of course, there are always exceptions to this rule... but i stick by my trust, as alain will testify to). so Kefit, to Kilga, to anyone who is filled with paranoia... STOP IT! it is paranoia that forces us to work as individuals like in twg6. and as individuals, we shall die alone. if we band together, we have a shot of killing the evil wolves. (now, i'm saying this on the assumptions that i'll be human the majority of the time... ignore everything i am saying if i am a wolf. :) )

um... i'm sure i have more to my rant, but i'll wait to see everyone's comments and reactions to my thoughts first.

[CypherToorima]

This is my perspective on TWG, as a wolf.
First Night: eb was just a kill. I didn’t want to have to talk to him and accidentally say something that would reveal me. Actually, I think I wanted to kill blah the first day, Good thing I didn’t.

First day: Holy crap that was close. I was so pissed I was going to random voted off. I decided to do something about it. I posted my defense and then I talked to tasselfoot. I pretty much said “It’s not like you to random vote” and he changed his vote. I don’t what made him do it, whether it was my statement or his own predetermined decision. I just saw tass's real reason. thanks blah ;) Either way, it saved my ass.

Second Night: Q. That was an easy choice. Smart guy, but probably won’t be gaurdianed.

Second day: I was talking to blah, and he seemed very suspicious of tass. Perfect. There was already a vote for him, and the voting period was close to ending. Blah tried so hard to convince me to vote for tass, when in reality, I love the idea. I hope to God it wasn’t a trap, but I went for it. Humans and a wolf lynch the human’s greatest ally. Score 2 for me.

Third Night: Kilgamayan. Smart guy. TWG vet. Not likely to be gaurdianed.

Fourth Day: Hans is suspicious of me. Oh well. I explain myself for voting tass. Helped out in getting Alain insta-lynched. Damn I’m good.

Fourth Night: Blah was scrambling to get a human alliance in order. I got in. I thought it would be smooth sailing. I decide I need to kill blah because he would figure me out sooner or later. Good thing we decided to wolf him.

Fourth Day: Blah figured everything out. Good thing he was dead. This day, the waters start becoming somewhat rocky. Not too bad, but victory isn’t so clear cut. As far as I know, afrobean trusts me. I try hard to get Hans killed from this day to the next. Alas, he stayed alive. Kefit comes out as the seer. I am suspicious of him actually being the seer, and the humans were just trying to throw us off the real seer’s case. Oh well. SO close to getting Hans lynched but 87 threw in his vote for Afrobean, and it became a knife-in-the-box. Bean loses. Hans is still alive.

Night five: I do a random pick between Kefit and Hans, because I thought hans MIGHT be the seer. I got kefit. Good for us. I’m sad that my human ally was lynched though. Oh well.

Day five: Holy crap. Too many close calls. First off, tps and squeek were never on at the same time. I was under extreme scrutiny. No good for me. At that time, I had one chance at victory, and that was to get Hans insta-lynched. If tps squeek and I were on at the same time, we could have done it. No such luck. 87x busts out with his vigilante card and kills Eyespew. Damnit. But then I get home and tps is on. I see that I have three votes. But then I see that it takes four to get me insta-lynched. Hell yes. Then squeek gets on. Tps comes up with the ‘vote 87x’ idea. I come up with “let’s post the same thing so humans get angry” idea. At five till four, I vote for 87x. Then Squeek votes, then tps.

3 points.

[Kefit]

A response to Tasselfoot:

1) You or Blah could have been master wolf. Period. The end.

2) I had enough info to peg Squeek, I guess, but by that point I didn't care enough to really play the game properly.

3) I was going to die that night anyways. Plus I was getting extremely irritated with the game, so I thought, "why not?"

And yes, human paranoia does get the humans killed. You should have been there with chat between me, Alain, Blah, and eyespew. We were all convinced that the chat room was running rampant with wolves, and thus, we accomplished absolutely nothing. Actually, we accomplished less than nothing, since we all left the chat hugely suspicious of each other.

Now, mathematically, choosing to trust someone will win the game for you more often than it won't. I don't particularly care for wins over the long run though. I only care about the current game, and I am not willing to throw any given game to chance.

Anyway, I am done with this game.

Oh, one more thing:

Please, in the next game, replace the seer with something else. Three masons, perhaps.

[Wayfaerer_]

So what exactly is this game?

[Lupin_the_3rd]

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=18844

[Tasselfoot]

Kefit... i'm pretty sure i explained my logic behind the seer still trusting people, regardless of the master wolf or not... if i didn't (i know i did), i'll say it again for everyone to hear:

at the start of day 1 there is a 1/14 chance that the person seered is the master wolf (16 players, 1 dead already, 1 seer). now... it has been clearly proven that the key to human victory is an organized voting block (read: TRUST). look back on TWG2 for what happens when a wolf infiltrates a human alliance.

also, there are failsafes that you did not think about. you tell both myself and blah that you are the seer. if you die that night, most likely one of the 2 is a wolf and they can continue in your memory... or, more obvious... the wolf will stay in the shadows, working with the seer to kill the other 2 wolves. in the WORST CASE SCENARIO, it plays down to 3 people (2 humans, 1 wolf).

without trust Kefit, there is only chaos. also, your feelings of apathy upset me greatly. there are easily 10 people that wanted to play in this TWG but couldn't because people like you took their spot. i hope you do not play again, as you do not show an actual desire to play. or better yet, you get wolfed on night 1 again. because not only will you not play, i will find it amazingly funny.

PS - i've been talking to chardish about a mason game for twg7. we shall see how it goes.

EDIT: i feel we should have a TWG ban list, or at least temp ban list... for people who are unfit to play or have shown unwillingness to play.

My List:
Moogy - perma ban
Snapps - temp ban (maybe perma)
Kefit - temp.

its not fair for people who actually want to play and give their full effort that others who aren't take their spot.

[Kefit]

I started off this game rather excited about it, but it ate away at me as time went on. The completely retarded chat I had was the final straw.

Anyway, I just don't like the mechanics of this game. You seem to enjoy it though, so have fun with future TWGs.

[Lupin_the_3rd]

could someone post when the sign-ups will be for tomorrow, or whereabouts? I definitely want to give this game a go.

[flypie743]

Hahahha, Tass I thought whatever side you were on WILL win TWG.

As for the ban list, I think you and chardish should be put on there because of what you did last TWG. That was just low.

[evilbutterfly]

I think people should only play a certain number of games in a row. Tass should sit out of the next one (maybe be mod, I dunno) so that others get a chance to play. And I don't see a problem with Kefit not wanting to play anymore at that point. The humans were screwed at that point, pretty much, and all the humans were pretty much tired of playing the game. I don't think Tass can rightfully blame Kefit for it all, because nobody else did any better.

[GuidoHunter]

Oh, give it a rest, flypie. That business won't happen again (right?), so there's no reason to keep perfectly legitimate players out of the game, regardless as well of how much they win.

I'm not too sad that I wasn't in this game. I became rather disillusioned after last game, and when I found out that this game was going to be just like the last, I just didn't care. TWG VII needs to have a much different setup That means, at the very least, getting rid of two roles that we usually have and putting in others. A gametype change wouldn't be bad, either, but the bottom line is that the games are getting stagnant.

I vote for blah to mod the next one.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[emccky]

I'm getting into the next one..

[Squeek]

Here's how the conversation went for the wolves.

Night 1 - We had to kill someone. Here's what we did. I took the smart / good players and put them into pile a. I took the new / bad players and put them into pile b. I took the rest and gave my teammates the list of choices. EB was a perfect choice. He stirred up action last game and is a regular poster.

Day 1 - Everyone is confused. Kefit didn't die? What? Omega says he's the seer? OK... Nobody is looking our way and things are looking good. Suddenly, Snapps decides to stop kidding around and votes Cypher. Tass saves our lives and we move into Night 2.

Night 2 - We figured that at this point, we could safely remove one of the players since Tass had established a decent foundation. Q voted me anyway, so I got him back for it.

Day 2 - Same situation. Anybody wants Q out, right Tass? Thanks for that as well. You're really helping us out here. We would have let you help us more, but we had the opportunity to kill you, so we did.

Night 3 - Q was easy to kill, why not Kilga? Sorry Kilga. You're too good to be in that long.

Day 3 - Still disarray. Alain ends up getting 5 votes and Blahblah makes a really stupid decision by not voting and attempting to get people to vote Kefit when there's already one vote left for an instalynch. I place my vote and prepare to back it up. Oh, by the way Blah, I heard every one of your conversations. Cypher and Hans helped me out with that.

Night 4 - Blah is onto us? Blah is gone!

Day 4 - ANOTHER disarrayed round. I defend my vote and everybody believes me. Scattered votes everywhere, and hardly any go our way. Score.

Night 5 - Say goodbye to Kefit. Seer or not, we didn't really care. We knew the guardian was dead.

Day 5 - We had this won either way, so don't blame 87x. If the vigilante was dead, we'd have all voted Hans. Since 87x vigilante'd, we picked out his flaw, exploited it, and won.

GG guys.

Tass - Don't blame Kefit. With the MW in play, the seer really can't trust anyone. He DID seer you, though. Too bad it didn't help much, since you were dead in 2 days.

Announcements.

1) I would be willing to host anytime in the future. Put me on the host list for every future game.

2) I quit. That's right, I quit. I really didn't want to play again and only did so for Omega's sake. He ended up getting in on time and I didn't feel the need to drop out. I figured I could finally play the game as a human...obviously I'm not allowed to play this game as a regular role (A joke, chill out).

The real reason I am quitting is because this game is a real shot to my morals. I hate lying to people under any circumstance. Hans and I became pretty good internet buddies from this game and the entire time he had his trust placed in me. I hated every minute of our conversations about this game because I knew everytime I said something, I had to lie. I'm not the kind of person for this game, even though we really just won with flying colors this time around.

Also, I'd like to mention that this game is far too stressful for me to play in. I actually DID lose sleep over this game and probably failed one of my finals thinking about what to do next.

~Squeek

PS - LD, to say it again, I apologize for getting angry at you over AIM. I ask that you clarify the rules for future games.

PPS - Is it just me, or did the story really get nowhere? What was the point of killing people? What was the point of even going on a hike after doing this act? We could have easily just stayed outside the city limits...not like any of the hikers would have noticed ouir presence or anything like that. I've got some good story ideas for my games to come that actually work.

[Afrobean]

Humans, stop being so suspicious. Seriously, I was SURE that Omega and Hans were wolves just because of their suspiciousness.

Also, I'm not too suspicious, so I'm not sure why people voted for me. It's actually funny; I'm accepted as human by basically everyone. Somewhere during the day when I was lynch'd, someone said they thought I was suspicious and lots of others jumped on. I knew the humans were screwed once they were tricked into lynching me, a human with nothing suspicious really going on. In fact, I posted lots of advice in my "OMG i r dead" post about what the humans should do to win it. Then Cypher I believe it was IM'd me and told me that lengthy death posts were frown'd upon, so I shorten'd it. It didn't matter much though, because 87x did exactly what I suggested, he just didn't get a wolf.

[Squeek]

Afro -

General Tip - Argh. People, STOP ACTING SUSPICIOUS. DO THINGS NORMALLY. BE NORMAL.

I do say I was normal the entire time. LOOK WHERE IT GOT ME.

Honestly, it's so simple. If you don't want to draw suspicion to yourself, do things normally. You guys killed yourselves the entire game. I'm surprised Omega wasn't gone within a day.

~Squeek

PS - Campaign. I will remove the vigilante and try out 2 masons. Let's see if people can handle the concept of new things.

[CypherToorima]

[flypie743]

I would also like to host the next TWG. I have some good ideas up my sleeve and I think it could be a lot of fun. I have had interest in running a TWG since the 1st one, and I promise I will do a good job.

/campaign

[evilbutterfly]

You guys mention new ideas, but only Squeek has told us these ideas so far. Tell us what you're changing and you'll get more votes (if it's good as you say it is).

[blahblah18]

OK guido, a vote for me should go to cypher, because the ideas i told you i'm ahving, I gave to cypher, we've worked them out, and he's gonna run it. It should be very good, and different then all the other games. I strong ly reccomend it so we can have a big variation compared to the other games.

Now onto analysis... despite what you say tass, I think I did what I had to do, and I figured out all wolves and if it wasn't for Hans being an absolute moron, the humans would have actually won.
Here's what you have to realize... that aim convo between hans and kefit shoudl have been 100 % proof that they both were human!!! Hans goes to Kefit and tells him that he strongly thinks I'm a wolf... then I die that night; If hans is a wolf, then he would never even bring my name up to kefit, if kefit is a wolf he would never post that convo... I sent PMs and IMs to Hans 87X cypher and Afro, knowing that either Hans or cypher was a wolf. I did this to hopefully lure one out to make it obvious which one it was... I then realized by doing it that odds are I'm going to die at night... Obviously Hans took that as proof that I must be a wolf cuz no way was it possible for me to actually be able to see the obvious.

Squeek was a wolf cuz he was way too quiet and came in to close out the instalynch as I was changing it. It then came down to cypher being a wolf or Eyespew/kefit being a wolf... and I didn't know which ones was which until Kefit posted that IM convo, which made me know that he was human and Hans was human, which meant cypher was the second wolf, and process of elimination brought TPS to be the third wolf... but like Cypher said, I was already dead at that point. If Hans doesn't act as such a dumbass and incur ewveryone's suspicion, then maybe the other humans could've pierced it together adn at least taken the alliance I made and ran with it. But oh well.....

[Tasselfoot]

stop campaigning. this is the post game for twg6, not the commercials before twg7.

as far as for the rules/signups stuff... the people that hurt the game are the ones that are apathetic towards it. the 3 i named have been / will continue to be half into it... so why let them play? who cares that i'm the only person to play in all 6 TWGs... i've managed to get in during the signup phase for every game.

and, i will say once again... the MVP should get a free entry into the next twg. NO ONE ELSE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD BE ALLOWED EARLY ENTRANCE.

[evilbutterfly]

What about 1st day kills? I think that should be one other exception (not just for me. I know I'll sign up in time, but I just think it's more fair that way).

[Squeek]

Hey, Blah? Which of you two lasted until the end of the game? Huh? Oh, right. It wasn't you. Stop raggin on the new player. He obviously knew more of what he was doing than you did.

You thought only ONE wolf was in on your alliance. Well, if your alliance meetings are made public to all wolves, you're kinda screwed buddy. If you assumed one wolf was in on it, why didn't you assume he'd tell everyone else?

There's no way to blame this on just one person. We played you all like a fiddle. It was obvious with the voting patterns; there was no rhyme or reason to any of them. Just admit it, you lost hardcore and you're all to blame for it.

~Squeek

[chardish]

Fun game to watch; I keep forgetting I wasn't involved in this one. I keep thinking this was Game 5 and I was wolfed on Night 2. Guess not.

Well-played by the wolves, I'm amazed that not a single one of you got taken out. Amazing job.

Squeek: remember that it's a game, and I'm willing to lie to someone within the context of the game. TWG is a game of lying and figuring out who's lying. That is all it is. If you're not the kind of person who enjoys lying for sport in a game, or you don't enjoy detective work, the game's not for you. I think it's fun.

Tass and I are working out some ideas for masons for TWG VII. I'd like to host, and most of you guys already know I can do it fairly well. And I'm working on a story that should have a better climax than "the terrorists did it for the hell of it."

[GuidoHunter]

Hey, Blah? Which of you two lasted until the end of the game? Huh? Oh, right. It wasn't you. Stop raggin on the new player. He obviously knew more of what he was doing than you did.

That does NOT mean someone's good. All it means is that he's not good enough to threaten the wolves enough to kill him and that he can keep himself away from a lynch (or just be lucky enough for someone else to be just that much more suspicious that he doesn't die).

Take Snapps last game. We (the wolves) wanted him around because he didn't contribute to the humans' cause in the slightest.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[Squeek]

As for this game, it means that they flew under the radar until the end, which was extremely difficult to do. You basically had to be wary of every single line of text in your post. A single misintepretation meant game over for you.

We kept a few people in since they were actually helping us out as well. Anybody that continuously voted another human for the same reason over and over again wasn't worth killing at night.

~Squeek

[chardish]

Flying under the radar is good for a wolf but not a human. If you're a human who survives to the end of a wolf-won game, you still lose.

[blahblah18]

exactly, I think that at least I tried, as opposed to what everyone else was doing , which was nothing... I tried to form an alliance, and I tried to give the humans a chance.

[lightdarkness]

I'm sorry about the storyline.

It seemed like such a good idea when I came up with it, then fell apart.

[HansSky]

One thing I have to say for myself:


It was my first game, I made mistakes. I most definitely learned from them.

I'll get better, no?

[Tasselfoot]

i hope so hans. please re-read 5 or 6 times the top of my initial post. thanks.

[Squeek]

Tass, one thing about your posts on and off the game really bothered me.

You make it seem like it's necessary for everybody to talk to you on AIM at some point in the game.

You're not some "game overlord" who knows all. There's no incentive for anybody to message you because you could conceivably be a wolf. I know what a conversation with you will do, human or not. So why bother?

My theory on AIM is as follows. If someone has the necessity to talk with me, they will message me. Otherwise, don't expect me to come to you. It doesn't make me any more or less suspicious. I know Kilga feels the same way about AIM except he's far more judgemental when it comes to that.

You blame people for not getting in contact with you when there's a possibility that you're the MW? Where's your logic behind this? Kefit knew that the odds of you being the MW were even lower on Day 2 when he seered ANOTHER person to find out their role and that came up human. Too bad it was too late to even mention it to you, because due to the workings of this game, you died.

I wanted to mention your AIM theory in-game and use it as a vote against you, but luckily I didn't have to bandwagon with my compatriots thanks to your compatriots.

Huge edit - I do believe this is the first game that Tassel has been lynched? I say congratulations to us for accomplishing this.

~Squeek

[Tasselfoot]

say what you will squeek... but i will stick to my theory until it is PROVEN incorrect. and it has proven correct 4/4.

i can't really count the 2 times i was a wolf, since the seer died right away... but in the 3 games i was contacted by a seer, the humans won. in the 1 game i was not contacted, the humans lost. coincedence? i think not.

and, if i am the master wolf... there is no way in hell that i kill the seer, at least not until the wolves are 1 human away from victory. its just plain stupid and pointless. so, Kefit didn't talk to me on the 1/14 chance i was the MW, when there is a 13/14 chance i am in fact human. basically Kefit was using his role not as being the seer... but as being "wolf sniffer", and would only react to the information given to him if it came back wolf. obviously that is ****ing retarded.

so, yea. i'm not going to be so bold as to say I DEMAND THE SEER COME TO ME AFTER I'VE BEEN SEERED ON NIGHT 1 but its god damn stupid to seer me and then not use my proven resources to their advantage. i will repeat, Kefit is solely responsible for the humans loss. had he come forward to blah and me, i would not have died on day 2 and the entire game would have been different.

EDIT: vote Tass for Biggest Ego on the 2004 FFR Awards! yay!

[tnyhwk900]

i'm not going to be so bold as to say I DEMAND THE SEER COME TO ME AFTER I'VE BEEN SEERED ON NIGHT 1
Greatest pun (or whatever it is) ever.

[Squeek]

Personally, I wouldn't even seer you. What's the point? Even if it came up wolf, there's no way I could bandwagon against you using such little amounts of information. Heck, I wouldn't even GUARD you because the wolf team fears that you already are!

I'd seer someone people are already suspicious of and guard someone that I know is human.

Like I said, you aren't the supreme leader of this game and I really hope your ego trip fades after you lose again. If I have to come back from retirement to do so, trust me, I will.

I forgot to reply to your post entirely.

This is not Kefit's fault. This is the entire human team's fault. The guardian missed out on guardianing, the seer missed out on seering wolves, the vigilante killed a human, and every OTHER human killed another human. YOU CANNOT BLAME ONE PERSON FOR THIS.

~Squeek

PS - Wait until YOU get a special role (if ever. Thanks a lot LD's randomizer...) and see how hard it is. It really is not easy, so don't knock it if you ain't tried it.

[chardish]

Tass' strategy works for one man and one man only: Tass.

If the seer comes to him and he's a human, it helps the humans win.
If the seer comes to him and he's a wolf, it helps the wolves win.

It's not that the humans win whenever the seer gets in touch with Tass. It's that Tass wins whenever the seer gets in touch with that.

I urge future seers to take caution.

[evilbutterfly]

I think this game revolves way too much around Tass. He should sit one out (I mean really. It's been what, 6 games in a row he's played?) and see how people play then.

[Tasselfoot]

i sat out most of this game EB... basically this was the only game i've been out of early (only other time i died was night 6 in twg3... humans had already won by then).

and, chardish is right... and i haven't denied it either. its just the fact that 15/16 of the times i play i am not a master wolf. therefore the odds are in favor of the seer contacting me (OR WHOEVER THEY DECIDE TO SEER), and not being paranoid. you have all seen how paranoia turned out. and hell, 2/16 times i'm a plain wolf... and isn't it good to know whether i'm a wolf. regardless of your opinion of me, i do have a huge amount of sway in this game... knowing what i am is a big piece of information.

[blahblah18]

Believe it or not,m I have to completely agree with Tass here... not specificalyl in regard to going to tass but rather in general on the use of the seer... The way to protect against master wolf is going to multiple people... if kefit came ot me tass and eyespew and alain and said "hey i seered all of you, you're all human... maybe one of you is the master wolf, but if so, then at least we know where he is" i mean, its better that then nothing.... you just have to start the wheels moving

[Kilgamayan]

I'm pissed because I had Tps figured out after Day 2 and then I wake up to Day 3 and find I died.

After that I stopped paying attention.

[evilbutterfly]

Wolves did a good job of killing everybody but the ones who didn't** know what the hell was going on.

EDIT: fix'd!

[Tasselfoot]

EB - you mean the exact opposite. :) they killed anyone with a brain.

[Wayfaerer_]

This game sounds very interesting.

[evilbutterfly]

That's what I meant, Tass, I just screwed it up in the writing of it. Simple mistake, like "I could care less!"

[87x]

Well, I really was only going to do two things, but I chose the wrong one. I was either going to kill eyespew, and vote cypher or kill cypher and vote eyespew. If I would of done it the other way the wolves would of lost, because we would had majority, and thanks to your post MRESqueek I knew you were a wolf, and I would of changed my vote from eyespew to you, then you would of gotten voted off and it would have been 4 on 1.. The humans would have won. But it played out completely opposite because I killed Eyespew and voted cypher.

Oh well.. That game took entirely too long and all the information came out after blah was killed. Thats when everything started to get pieced together for me.

Ps, Im gald that Im not looked at as an intelligent player. It saved me to almost cause a human victory while the wolves thought they had it won.

[Wayfaerer_]

Does anyone know what time zone the sign-ups are in?

[Jpec07]

I'm pretty sure it's in Eastern Standard, but I may be wrong...

[lightdarkness]

Yes, eastern.

[Wayfaerer_]

Nice, I think I can get on around that time.

[Tasselfoot]

for the record, the majority of players have the option to veto another player entering the game (cue: malthius, or whatever his name is).... i smell another coming.

[evilbutterfly]

Yes, if everybody says gtfo, you gtfo. However, if Cypher is hosting and there are all those extra spots, I don't see why we couldn't have more people. It's nice to play with new people, no?

[Tasselfoot]

It's nice to play with new INTELLIGENT people, no?

i fixed it for you.

[evilbutterfly]

Well those two seem alright. They're typing is decent, at least. That other guy was a real jerk about things, but they seem like nice people who are willing to play the game. As long as they know the rules, I think they should be fine.

[Tasselfoot]

i don't. he clearly had no understanding of the game yesterday... so, why should he today? allow him to observe a game in action, and to read the past games... then i have no problem with him playing.

[chardish]

Well, we do have intelligent people who don't post much on the forums besides TWG. Whorli, Stretchypanda, and Tps come to mind.

[stretchypanda]

Well those two seem alright. They're typing is decent, at least. That other guy was a real jerk about things, but they seem like nice people who are willing to play the game. As long as they know the rules, I think they should be fine.

If we let EVERYONE play, we couldn't be elitist.

And I will actually be online when signups open, this time, so if I am ousted by a newb who acts like a moron throughout the game, I will not be thrilled.

[evilbutterfly]

I wasn't saying we should let EVERYONE play, but a few new people here and there would be fine. We could still be "elitist," though, because we'd just own their asses off.

[Jpec07]

Intelligence is not something I lack, even though I don't post much I never leave a TWG unattended...

[alainbryden]

Crap, I can't beleive I missed signups... If anyone wants to drop out I will replace their role. *dibs on waiting list*
And Jpec, if you plan to post alot in the next TWG, I suggest you shrink you sig down a lot.

[CypherToorima]

When I read TWG name I was like "This might have pretty cool story line" But then I read and I was like "Oh...damnit"

[Tasselfoot]

alain.... you missed out twice. roopert dropped out, but guido just claimed it.

[ddrruler]

i claimed it first but chardish said that i didnt look like the type of person for this game -.-

[evilbutterfly]

He asked you to post a coherant paragraph explaining why you're good but you didn't...

Anyways, it looks like we've stopped discussing the last TWG. Humans died fast but the postgame comments died faster, I'd say.

[alainbryden]

We got pumelled, nuff said.

[Kilgamayan]

Damnit.

Given alain's addition just now, I have now missed signing up on four separate occasions.

>_<

[Verruckter]

Anyways... When does it start?

[evilbutterfly]

Probably as soon as all the wolves and the guardian send in their votes for who to kill/protect and whatnot. Shouldn't be long now...

btw, props to Chardish for the theme!

[Tps222]

Damn, missed signups, family party, o well, i'll get in the next one, family matters more.

[Omeganitros]

Okay.










I just got back from my week-long vacation. I skimmed through Werewolf Game ending pretty quickly. I don't feel like reading through this topic, so please just answer my question.

Why did everyone vote for 87x at the end?

[lightdarkness]

Why did everyone vote for 87x at the end?

The wolves saw they could get rid of him, as the last human needed to be killed to win the game.

[Omeganitros]

Yeah. I just kinda realized that.

Sorry, useless bump. GG everyone.