So what's the deal here???

[Freak83]

So, with classical songs, since they're old, are they free use for anyone? Or do you still have to get permission to use it from the people who recorded it? Hyrogashi, you'd know.

Other question, what are you guys using to create and try out stepfiles? Is it neccisary to use DWI because DWI is acting very glitchy for me.

[Arch0wl]

If it's a classical peice then it can't be copyrighted by anyone

I use SM CVS to create my songs

[MEGAginge]

he means Stepmania btw

www.stepmania.com

but I recommend getting 3.0, not the CVS. I have both and switched back to 3.0 - CVS crashes far too often for me...

[Arch0wl]

No, CVS is way better, one of the main reasons is how it fixes the DWI saving bug

[MEGAginge]

man every time you finish an arcade run it crashes its ONLY good for creating stepfiles...

[Freak83]

Hold on, would you still make the stepfile with notepad? Do you have to do anything differently than you do with Nestlekwik's guide? What do you save it as? Etc.

[Synthlight]

Classical songs can indeed by copyrighted depending on who performs them and the age of the song when it was performed/recorded.

Cheers,

Synthlight

[MEGAginge]

ok

1. Make a new song folder and copy your MP3 to it
2. Get any DWI file, copy it to the new folder
3. Delete all the song info, leaving just a blank header (you can now use this file for all following songs
4. Open up stepania and select record/sync and select your song
5. Edit as appropriate

You dont need notepad at all except for prepping the file...

Actually, with CVS there may not be an easier way I dunno...

[Arch0wl]

Synth when I said classical I was refferring to stuff that was made in the 1700s and early 1800s

[MEGAginge]

thats what he was saying. Classical stuff is still being made; but some before 1952 and some after (im pretty sure its 50 years)

[87x]

hmm.... with all these classicals comming out i might give it a try... i have like a $300 dj program that say the bpm of any song at any givven point in the song... i think that might help me a bit... i also have a rock song that i would like to see if it would work.... i dont have the steps yet, but synth if you could listen to it to tell me if its a good song for the site... i would appreciate it...

[MEGAginge]

87x:is it a copyrighted song, as tht would cross it out immediately...

[87x]

i know the band and i permission to use it... i already talked to them and they agreed to let me use it...

[Hyrogashi]

Classical songs can indeed by copyrighted depending on who performs them and the age of the song when it was performed/recorded.

Cheers,

Synthlight

Ok brb, im going to go play rondo on my piano and then copyright it and sue you for all your G moneys.

Freak, None of the song's needed permission yet because nobody has copyrighted them, mostly because hardly anyone can even preforrm Caprice.

[MEGAginge]

87x: ok cool i look forward to hearing it.

Hyro: lol they wudda herd it before so theyd just say no. Anyway it xcosts $£$£$ to do so...

[87x]

i gotta get the thumbs up from synth first....

[SotN]

Classical songs can indeed by copyrighted depending on who performs them and the age of the song when it was performed/recorded.

Cheers,

Synthlight

Ok brb, im going to go play rondo on my piano and then copyright it and sue you for all your G moneys.

You would only own the rights to the recording, not the actual song.

Anything over 90 years(?) old is in pubic domian. It can be used by anyone for any reason. For example, record it, then sell the rights to a record label.

[Freak83]

Well anyway, I guess to keep it updated... I've downloaded stepmania and am practicing making stepfiles by doing "Over my Head" by Lit for a starter. Hmm it'd be nice if I get permission to use that on FFR... well like that's going to happen :roll: I have 1 question now... is it impossible to have 3 or 4 arrows on one line in FFR? I did that for one line in the stepfile I'm making so... just want to know.

[Synthlight]

I believe you can copyright a performance or recording. From what I have been reading this is possible even when a song is out of copyright because of age. You copyright the recording not the song itself therefore making it illegal for some to use your recorded work.

Anyone care to fully read all of this?
http://www.classicalarchives.com/copy.html#copy100



Cheers,

Synthlight

[Hyrogashi]

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[Freak83]

ok, so now I have 3 questions.

1) Like I asked before... is there something wrong with having 3 or 4 arrows on one line? Can it be done in FFR?

2) I'm using 12 step time or whatever it's called. What do those red arrows mean? Are they supposedly offbeat or are they just decoration?

3) Um I knew this question last night... but I can't remember it right now... I'll ask it if I remember it.

[CMCAdvanced]

No, it's not right having more than 2 arrows at the same time. Morality issues.
I might be able to be done though.
12th notes are just different timed notes, not necessarily offbeat.

And to your third question, Maybe.

[Freak83]

You're back CMC! And where'd the SP go in your name???

Umm actually, for #1 I've already put 4 arrows on one line, I just don't know if FFR can support that.

And I'm talking about when sometimes I put an arrow down and it's red instead of purple.

[Freak83]

Oh 2 more things.

1) I remember question number 3. It's actually a playing question. You know how the arrows on stepmania only dissapear when you get a perfect or a good? Is there any way to make them dissapear as long as you hit them like ffr?

2) I should probably mention, I finished my first stepfile for Over My Head last night. I know that some of the parts are offbeat though, so I need to edit those parts before it's actually finished for good.

[MEGAginge]

You're back CMC! And where'd the SP go in your name???

Umm actually, for #1 I've already put 4 arrows on one line, I just don't know if FFR can support that.

And I'm talking about when sometimes I put an arrow down and it's red instead of purple.

freak: most kbs cant even handle more than 2 simultaneous button presses (mine included) also, its impossible to playone handed

i assure you you are dropping 90% of the population from playing ur song unless you take out thr three and 4 beat lines...

[Freak83]

Allright will do. I only had 3 lines with four beats on them anyway so it's not hard to change. Anyway, I've drawn to the conclusion that red arrows are to help you decide that they're offbeat. They seem to come every 3 beats, and the majority of the time they have been offbeat, though not all the time. Anyway, I'm pretty much finished now.

[SotN]

Anyone care to fully read all of this?
http://www.classicalarchives.com/copy.html#copy100

All right, I read all this last night and slept on it to make sure my thought train was right.

This applies to FFR:
INSTEAD, YOU MAY COPY UP TO 10 (NON-STREAMED) MEDIA FILES TO YOUR WEB SITE'S SERVER BUT YOU MUST ASK FOR PERMISSION from each sequence's contributor (who may or may not provide it.) If you do receive permission, you must COPY THE FILE(s) TO YOUR SERVER and provide the notice given below. Note that I am happy to give you permission, right here and now, to copy my own files. These are marked with (*). Remember to use the notice shown below.

The only stipulation is that FFR doesn't use MIDIs (I think). you have to convert the MIDI to MP3 or .OGG first. I don't think these terms cover that, but it probably isn't a problem as long as it's not remixed or altered after that.

One last issue is where to put the banner that guy requires. Under the FFR window? Because that
s the only place where they'll hear the music.

In summation: yes, we can.

[Arch0wl]

also, its impossible to playone handed

No, 4 arrows at a time is not near impossible to play one handed. There are some instances in IIDX where I've had to hit 4 notes with one hand and 2 with the other (indigo vision another for example)

[Hyrogashi]

Here.

4!402!208!806!60019

four arrow freeze at once.

[Freak83]

also, its impossible to playone handed

No, 4 arrows at a time is not near impossible to play one handed. There are some instances in IIDX where I've had to hit 4 notes with one hand and 2 with the other (indigo vision another for example)

Oh right! I just remembered! You people use the arrow keys whereas I use the numberpad. On the #pad you can have four fingers on an arrow at all times so it is extremely easy to press all four at once.

[Hyrogashi]

No, its not.

[Freak83]

Now what Hyro... we already discussed this, #pad is easier and better for me, arrows are easier and better for you... that's that.