TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

sorry I went to go shower

Zenith hinted at being "hated" which made me pull my vote off of him

a jester's win con is being lynched so they'd want as many votes as possible on them, hence why I doubt he's a jester cause he didn't want my vote on him

^ is a perfectly reasonable piece of reasoning

Seriously you theorycrafting this early in the game is pretty retarded and you should know better

how can you be so certain the information you perceive to have isn't just a fraud and you're falling into confirmation bias due to impartial situations that happened for mere seconds?

^ your response makes it seem like something much more than it really is

everybody knows that reads stabilize as you get more information and that reads are likely to change

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

another option not to be discarded is that AA could tunnel a lynch on me due to his strong read of me 1) not being a jester 2) being scum/third party when there is an equal chance that I am the jester and he pushed a lynch on the one he was searching for

fair enough, and we'll see how this develops

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

I didn't see his post being a way for him to breadcrumb as a wolf trying to start a mislynch on you

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

but it could happen

though I'd think he'd pick another target if he wanted to do that

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

I didn't see his post being a way for him to breadcrumb as a wolf trying to start a mislynch on you

I never said I personally scumread him or even pondered the idea of him being a wolf yet

I personally think there is far too little information to start any reads but that's just me. As I play more I realize D0 is a shitstorm of information that exponentially gathers useful data to formulate reads upon as time progresses in D0, which is precisely why my reads usually never come out until the day of EoD unless they are hot reads or I'm subbing.

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

aragakiayase

are we really going to argue semantics right now

Nah but that was my thinking when I said he's probably not VT

aa what do you think about dbp's presence

He seems to be contributing and not just shitposting, his wolf meta tends towards nonexistent presence so he's at a slight town lean for now

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

I didn't see his post being a way for him to breadcrumb as a wolf trying to start a mislynch on you

That feel when I've never even heard the term breadcrumbing

I never said I personally scumread him or even pondered the idea of him being a wolf yet

I personally think there is far too little information to start any reads but that's just me. As I play more I realize D0 is a shitstorm of information that exponentially gathers useful data to formulate reads upon as time progresses in D0, which is precisely why my reads usually never come out until the day of EoD unless they are hot reads or I'm subbing.

Hey, I did say it was a quick read before I headed off to bed
And wih that I'm gonna stop phone posting cause its so hard

Actually gonna sleep now but I might lurk a bit, don't expect any posts for 5+ hrs though

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

hi. happy to see i'm already being voted for. wouldn't be twg if
that didn't happen
storn

does storn selfvote usually?

I can't remember because everyone is opposed except me on occasion

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

oh my I had to look at player lineup to realize plopadop was in this game

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

does storn selfvote usually?

I can't remember because everyone is opposed except me on occasion

he's done this in his wolf games, but I'm getting a more towny vibe from him atm

but we'll see

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

oh my I had to look at player lineup to realize plopadop was in this game

he hasn't even viewed the thread dude

[lurker]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

guys i wasn't lying

[Nighthawk252]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

Oh wow I go for like 3 hours and I miss like 8 pages

Catching uppppp

[Nighthawk252]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

Sorry this post is taking longer than I thought. Trying to trim down unnecessary parts and make it into something somewhat coherent

[Nighthawk252]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

Starting off with a few macro issues before going into some minor quotes.

First, choof. I remember last game I played with him he said he had a pretty distinctive town game. He was town last game and I've been getting a pretty similar vibe from him this game. Would others who have played with choof agree that he's got a distinctive town game, and is this it?

Second, Zenith seems weird to me.

Also ayy lmao my alignment is terrific I'm actually really digging my role

This isn't saying "Oh yay, I'm happy to be town". It's explicitly including third parties (and definitely hinting at being one) which makes me lean Jester.

This can be read as VT behavior. Hinting at being or acting like a special is something VTs do all the time to draw wolfings. The problem is that this game has Jesters, and this seems like pretty blatant Jester behavior. I don't see an actual special doing something so blatant. An actual special probably wouldn't want to get into WIFOM regarding whether or not they're special, they'd probably just want to stay under-the-radar.

The potential for this being wolf (or SK) behavior is there too. If everyone reads this as Jester behavior, Night killers will want to avoid killing Zenith. They'll have bigger fish to fry.

From most likely alignment to least (for Zenith) I go Jester>Wolf/SK>VT>Survivor>Special. Zenith's being cryptic makes me more confident in that read. Things like:

whoever rolled vt I feel bad because you're going to have a boring game

AA is making a really bold statement about me not being the jester why do you know this and how can you confirm I'm really not the jester?

only way you'll figure that out is if you are some form of a seer and peek me which imo is not the best peek you can receive n0

Someone who disagrees with me on this, though, is AragakiAyase, who was actually the first person to vote for Zenith. But his reason for unvoting is pretty weak. Why are you "unvoting to be safe" when insta requires like 8 votes and you are vote number two or something? And why don't you put it back on when you read that Zenith definitely isn't the Jester? Looking for explanations for this.

im curious about j-rodd and mashi, the way they are playing, almost makes it seem like they're both jesters....

Have you played with both of them together before? I was thinking the same thing when I played with them last game, but other people who had played with them before didn't think that way. For your info, last game J-Rodd was a wolf and Mashi human. Mashi seemed to me like he was heavier on the LOCK CLEAR stuff than J-Rodd that game but maybe I'm misremembering.

which is part of the reason why i say seems... also... jesters would atleast try to make themselves not obvious, and with the last post of J-rodd, im going to guess they're not jesters.

What do you think they are then?

should i fake a few reads before i go to bed?

Struck me as weird. Seems to me like you lose the point of the reads if you're being upfront about how fake they are.

guys, has charu toned down on the white noise d0 posting recently? i expected more posts from him

Curious as to what FG means by "white noise d0 posting". Is it the type of thing charu's been doing since he started posting?

also yoshl, shouldn't insta be 8 people? the description says 2/3 rounded down, 2/3 of 13 is 8.67 which rounded down is 8.

Seems to me the type of thing a wolf would be more likely to notice but also the type of thing a wolf would be more likely to ask via PM.