TWG CXXXV: Dichotomy - GAME THREAD

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  • Curry and Rice
    FFR Player
    • May 2015
    • 5

    #706
    Re: TWG CXXXV: Dichotomy - GAME THREAD

    Hot Ghost Pepper Tier:
    1. blindreper1179: Given the last few pages, I don't think I need to explain this.
    2. reuben_tate: I was being serious when I thought his response to Vendetta's item announcement was suspicious. It makes it look like... he's trying to be helpful?... he's trying to pretend he knows absolutely nothing about the situation, but he does...? Worth nothing, if he's a wolf, he's probably the Master Wolf, so seering him likely wouldn't help.
    3. Charu: Charu's position is more due to lack of suspicion on anybody else, as well as slight... hesitation (?)... about his posts, particularly his recent posts in response to Tokzic, where he didn't seem to see that Tokzic's alleged alignment powers provide guarding in addition to any other effect (specifically saying that it "Sounds something way more useful for wolves").

    Post More:
    4. DarkManticoreX2: Really hasn't said much about the game, except the notable posts about not re-rolling the game, and post #542. Overall neutral.
    5. mellonxcollie: Has like six posts. Her post about the item ("It says "A" on it but doesn't tell me what it does. I am scared to use it...") is a little strange, given that I had just explained what my items do. Overall neutral.

    Quarantine:
    6. storn42: I actually gave Storn an item to test his reaction and force him to give it back no matter his role. Although I'm a bit surprised he didn't mention it before I did, I think his reaction to the event is neutral thus far.
    7. Tps222: Early impressions were positive, but current posts have been null. Maybe it's because of what happened earlier in the game ("maybe" might be an understatement), but very few people seem to have any strong opinions whatsoever (I notice this in particular with you- in part because the situation with Reuben that went nowhere- although maybe I'm just focusing too much on you?).
    8. Zenith: The reason I was initially cautious over him was because he didn't mention having an item at all until late in the phase, but after he did so, my caution over him decreased. Otherwise, however, I don't think he's done much else to make me consider him either "human" or "wolf" at this point.

    Not a Current Lynch Consideration:
    9. DaBackpack: At the risk of repeating last game, I'm getting a slight human vibe from his posts, especially the recent ones regarding Tokzic... though I think the vote change could potentially be interpreted differently under different circumstances.
    10. Vendetta21: Vendetta's reaction to the items (including receiving what is probably a harmful wolf item; I don't want to completely clear him because that's definitely a possible wolf strategy) seems human. I'm still waiting for some more posts, though. Also, worth noting is that nobody else claims to have received an item, which means that if there's a Wolf Synthesist, they probably didn't give out an item last night.
    11. Tokzic: As I mentioned above, he's in a precarious position as a wolf. While I'm still not 100% certain over his alignment, keeping him alive would probably be beneficial for the current moment.

    Me:
    12. Curry and Rice: its me




    Feel free to add whatever you want (or, rather, I should say that you should say something) and rip it apart if you feel a need to (my observations and opinions formed from them alone probably won't solve the game!). :P

    Also, I'd consider anybody from Charu to Zenith to be a potential seering target.

    ALSO, a reminder that if you don't vote for floor affinity, your vote will automatically incline towards the current affinity... so please vote.

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    • roundbox
      fhqwhgads
      • Feb 2005
      • 2086

      #707
      Vote Count

      Votes from post 643 to post 706
      Night in 22:29:33

      ---
      • Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
      • 2 -- Tokzic -- Charu (5), Tps222 (2)
      • 1 -- storn42 -- DaBackpack (8)
      • 1 -- _Zenith_ -- blindreper1179 (8)
      • 8 -- not voting -- _Zenith_ (6), Curry and Rice (13), DarkManticoreX2 (0), mellonxcollie (1), reuben_tate (0), storn42 (8), Tokzic (7), Vendetta21 (1)
      Originally posted by the sun fan
      I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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      • roundbox
        fhqwhgads
        • Feb 2005
        • 2086

        #708
        Re: TWG CXXXV: Dichotomy - GAME THREAD

        Floor Affinity votes

        White (1) - blindreper1179
        Black (5) - Curry and Rice, Tps222, _Zenith_, storn42. DaBackpack
        Originally posted by the sun fan
        I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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        • storn42
          RIP Storn D0-D0
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jun 2012
          • 3474

          #709
          Re: TWG CXXXV: Dichotomy - GAME THREAD

          Originally posted by DaBackpack
          pretty sure he said something he wouldn't have if he was "town-aligned"

          leaving this vote as a litmus test for now
          i say a lot of things as town.


          Originally posted by Xiz
          "I think storn is town but he doesn't have a shirt on" - Roundbox
          Originally posted by the sun fan
          I have beat my meat to storn's posts no less than four times


          Originally posted by ShadoWolfe


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          • choof
            Banned
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Nov 2013
            • 8563

            #710
            Re: TWG CXXXV: Dichotomy - GAME THREAD

            Originally posted by storn42
            btw. im glad i coined the term "team choof" this game.
            i'm using my death post now to quote this and say "wat"

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            • benguino
              Kawaii Desu Ne?
              • Dec 2007
              • 4190

              #711
              Re: TWG CXXXV: Dichotomy - GAME THREAD

              I'm here, reading the thread atm.
              AMA: http://ask.fm/benguino


              Originally posted by Spenner
              (^)> peck peck says the heels
              Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
              And god made ben, and realized he was doomed to miss. And said it was good.
              Originally posted by Zakvvv666
              awww :< crushing my dreams; was looking foward to you attempting to shoot yourself point blank and missing

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              • benguino
                Kawaii Desu Ne?
                • Dec 2007
                • 4190

                #712
                Re: TWG CXXXV: Dichotomy - GAME THREAD

                I'm in the thread alone with V. I'm scared.
                AMA: http://ask.fm/benguino


                Originally posted by Spenner
                (^)> peck peck says the heels
                Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                And god made ben, and realized he was doomed to miss. And said it was good.
                Originally posted by Zakvvv666
                awww :< crushing my dreams; was looking foward to you attempting to shoot yourself point blank and missing

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                • benguino
                  Kawaii Desu Ne?
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 4190

                  #713
                  Re: TWG CXXXV: Dichotomy - GAME THREAD

                  And now I'm alone. I swear...this happens every single time.
                  AMA: http://ask.fm/benguino


                  Originally posted by Spenner
                  (^)> peck peck says the heels
                  Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                  And god made ben, and realized he was doomed to miss. And said it was good.
                  Originally posted by Zakvvv666
                  awww :< crushing my dreams; was looking foward to you attempting to shoot yourself point blank and missing

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                  • benguino
                    Kawaii Desu Ne?
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 4190

                    #714
                    Re: TWG CXXXV: Dichotomy - GAME THREAD

                    Originally posted by Tps222
                    ...what? So you're saying that I should believe your claim because you're apparently a self-claimed townie who said he's not a wolf, and since townie's don't have an obvious incentive to lie that then therefore means you must not be lying?

                    Is that what you're basically saying there? Do you see how circular that logic is?
                    I do see how it's circular. But that's your logic and not mine.
                    AMA: http://ask.fm/benguino


                    Originally posted by Spenner
                    (^)> peck peck says the heels
                    Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                    And god made ben, and realized he was doomed to miss. And said it was good.
                    Originally posted by Zakvvv666
                    awww :< crushing my dreams; was looking foward to you attempting to shoot yourself point blank and missing

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                    • benguino
                      Kawaii Desu Ne?
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 4190

                      #715
                      Re: TWG CXXXV: Dichotomy - GAME THREAD

                      If you still want to argue about this though, I'll spell out my argument for you in a step-by-step manner.
                      AMA: http://ask.fm/benguino


                      Originally posted by Spenner
                      (^)> peck peck says the heels
                      Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                      And god made ben, and realized he was doomed to miss. And said it was good.
                      Originally posted by Zakvvv666
                      awww :< crushing my dreams; was looking foward to you attempting to shoot yourself point blank and missing

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                      • benguino
                        Kawaii Desu Ne?
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 4190

                        #716
                        Re: TWG CXXXV: Dichotomy - GAME THREAD

                        A semi-reads list (moreso just copypasta from my notes in my notepad file while I was reading):

                        Charu
                        There's that potential slip I mentioned earlier concerning the number of wolves in this game. If my lead on you was right, I was worried about possibly dying that night. I do know however that jrodd enthusiastically agreed with me. If you were wolf, it makes sense that jrodd would die. Killing me would be too obvious, but killing one of my possible supporters wouldn't be as obvious. Plus, from what's presented in the thread, it seems that jrodd was a PR of some sort. I might be looking too into this though because this argument feels like I'm running down a slippery slope

                        I also was going to mention something that it seems curry already touched upon regarding your overall behavior. You've posted to make yourself present in the thread but I'm not seeing too much beyond that. From the games I've played with you where you are town, you tend to be much more direct, in everyone's faces, and aren't afraid to stand strong in your opinion. I'm not seeing that this game though.


                        tps

                        There's a lot I'm not liking about tps this game, but a lot of it is probably from OMGUS-ish feelings. Although my read on him is highly biased because of that, I'll just list off my observations anyway and maybe someone else can relate with me.

                        Firstly, when I try to discuss his idea of having everyone go around and claiming their roles, he takes that as an opportunity to attack me instead of actually trying to discuss his idea. He never brought up his idea again. The fact that he presented that idea but there was no follow-up seems very odd to me. Also, the very idea of having everyone claim their roles seems odd to me...however, I'm thinking that's probably something that might be common in other twg communities.

                        Also, his reasoning against me is shitty, he treats "proof by contradiction" as a foreign concept, and he gets upset at curry for giving us the details of his role even though he had initially considered that everyone do just that.


                        curry

                        I believe your claim in regards to your role because otherwise, such a claim would be easy to disprove. As for your alignment, I'd like to believe you are town-aligned. You haven't done much to make me believe you're wolf or third party and I don't think you would have claimed the abilities that you did if you were wolf-aligned.


                        zenith

                        I'm kind of liking zenith this game. I know I'm town-aligned so it gave him some townie points to defend me against tps in my absence. I feel a wolf would have let it slide. Then again, it could be an attempt to pocket me. I did find it a little bit weird that he felt the need to say at the end that even though he disagrees with tps, that he finds that he is not a good lynch for today. The post should felt unnatural for some reason, idk.

                        Additionally, I feel like Zenith is doing a fairly good job at creating and igniting the momentum in this game and it feels like a genuine attempt at trying to solve the game.


                        V

                        Thanks for letting me know that I'm not alone in the pure VT crowd :')

                        Still pretty null at the moment though, I'd like to hear more from you. Even if that involves having to grill me again like a grilled cheese sandwich.


                        Manti

                        Wanted tokzic to out powers at the start of the day. I personally just found that to be weird. Other than that, I'm still pretty null on him.


                        tokzic

                        I'm a little torn. On one hand, there's RB's seering. On the other hand, I'm not really feeling the wolfiness from tokzic atm. There's the whole "drugs" vs "injections" thing that was mentioned, but I feel there is a good chance that that is just a coincidence.


                        storn

                        Two things I wanted to point out.

                        First, I think for most people, it was clear that tokzic's post about V not taking drugs from strangers was said in a joking manner. So storn's reaction to that felt really odd, as if he knew already the injections were a game mechanic.

                        Next, he had that whole "human! human! human!" post earlier that he was up in arms about. His need to find something to argue about, even if it's just semantics, really concerns me.


                        blind

                        Your unwillingness to cooperate isn't helping town at all, regardless of your alignment. You're stating a lot of opinions and claims with no evidence or elaboration and you're being overly stubborn about the floor affinity. Everyone, especially you, needs to stop thinking in terms of "which floor affinity will benefit my role the best?" and instead think about "which floor affinity will benefit town the best?" There's a good chance the answers to those two questions are different.
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                        Originally posted by Spenner
                        (^)> peck peck says the heels
                        Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                        And god made ben, and realized he was doomed to miss. And said it was good.
                        Originally posted by Zakvvv666
                        awww :< crushing my dreams; was looking foward to you attempting to shoot yourself point blank and missing

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                        • benguino
                          Kawaii Desu Ne?
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 4190

                          #717
                          Re: TWG CXXXV: Dichotomy - GAME THREAD

                          black
                          AMA: http://ask.fm/benguino


                          Originally posted by Spenner
                          (^)> peck peck says the heels
                          Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                          And god made ben, and realized he was doomed to miss. And said it was good.
                          Originally posted by Zakvvv666
                          awww :< crushing my dreams; was looking foward to you attempting to shoot yourself point blank and missing

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                          • benguino
                            Kawaii Desu Ne?
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 4190

                            #718
                            Re: TWG CXXXV: Dichotomy - GAME THREAD

                            storn42
                            AMA: http://ask.fm/benguino


                            Originally posted by Spenner
                            (^)> peck peck says the heels
                            Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                            And god made ben, and realized he was doomed to miss. And said it was good.
                            Originally posted by Zakvvv666
                            awww :< crushing my dreams; was looking foward to you attempting to shoot yourself point blank and missing

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                            • benguino
                              Kawaii Desu Ne?
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 4190

                              #719
                              Re: TWG CXXXV: Dichotomy - GAME THREAD

                              Oh, I forgot about one thing. I still don't understand how the rules in the OP would make it impossible for a cult-like type of 3rd party thingy exist?

                              So until someone else can better convince me, I'm not going to throw that away as a possibility. Like manti also said though, I don't want to waste my time and efforts into unnecessary speculation for the possibilities in this mystery game either. So I'm leaving it at that.
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                              Originally posted by Spenner
                              (^)> peck peck says the heels
                              Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                              And god made ben, and realized he was doomed to miss. And said it was good.
                              Originally posted by Zakvvv666
                              awww :< crushing my dreams; was looking foward to you attempting to shoot yourself point blank and missing

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                              • benguino
                                Kawaii Desu Ne?
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 4190

                                #720
                                Re: TWG CXXXV: Dichotomy - GAME THREAD

                                Anyways, thread's dead...I'm still the only one here. No use in talking to a wall, so I'm out for the night~
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                                Originally posted by Spenner
                                (^)> peck peck says the heels
                                Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                                And god made ben, and realized he was doomed to miss. And said it was good.
                                Originally posted by Zakvvv666
                                awww :< crushing my dreams; was looking foward to you attempting to shoot yourself point blank and missing

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