Dragons Fury: Custom Tournament #8

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  • Xx{Midnight}xX
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2007
    • 8548

    #1186
    Re: Dragons Fury: Custom Tournament #8

    Originally posted by SKG_Scintill
    It is within the stepartists' control, they can stop using colour gimmicks bcz expressivemanias
    Also: yeye, hypocritical me
    It's not worth arguing about, but I was just in a very bad mood when I posted, Sorry for derailing much it was stupid and uncalled for.

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    • Tristana
      Banned
      • Jun 2012
      • 410

      #1187
      Re: Dragons Fury: Custom Tournament #8

      Originally posted by SKG_Scintill
      It is within the stepartists' control, they can stop using colour gimmicks bcz expressivemanias
      Also: yeye, hypocritical me
      there are no color gimmicks in papa gonzales / loner although it may seem like it lol
      its just syncing stuff since the songs arent mega static bpms
      wheres bill & powerpoints had color gimmicks though
      im just experimenting dont h8!!!


      tbh color gimmicks arent a bad thing lol

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      • foxfire667
        The FFRchiver
        FFR Music Producer
        • Jun 2009
        • 2170

        #1188
        Re: Dragons Fury: Custom Tournament #8

        Originally posted by Tristana
        tbh color gimmicks arent a bad thing lol
        Well technically if the file is stepped accurately, the notes should be on the same frame regardless of how many times you multiply or divide the bpm. So in reality, a framer will be a framer regardless of what happens due to how the conversion works.

        I'm not sure about color shifting or whatever, but if it's synced, this should still apply.

        Unless I'm missing something...
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        • NoPrivacy
          wut
          • Aug 2012
          • 290

          #1189
          Re: Dragons Fury: Custom Tournament #8

          You'd have to step a song to understand, I know what he's saying but can't really explain it lol.

          Edit - I'm also not saying you have no stepping knowledge lol
          Last edited by NoPrivacy; 09-19-2012, 01:56 AM.
          Shit.

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          • Tristana
            Banned
            • Jun 2012
            • 410

            #1190
            Re: Dragons Fury: Custom Tournament #8

            Originally posted by foxfire667
            Well technically if the file is stepped accurately, the notes should be on the same frame regardless of how many times you multiply or divide the bpm. So in reality, a framer will be a framer regardless of what happens due to how the conversion works.

            I'm not sure about color shifting or whatever, but if it's synced, this should still apply.

            Unless I'm missing something...
            my powerpoints / wheres bill file was stepped very accurately if you look at the .sm and .dwi file

            they play perfectly on sm

            it's just that ffr runs on a 30 fps flash engine that's old as shit
            its not the simfile author's fault that there are framer issues

            also besides powerpoints i saw no need for framer fixing in gonzales / loner / where's bill

            they are playing as intended






            ps) people use framers as an excuse for everything lol.. i aaa papa gonzales/wheres bill/loner without problem consistently so it must be a problem on their hands
            powerpoints had framer issues so that was fixed. done and done. papa gonzales and such = no framer issues to my eyes

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            • SKG_Scintill
              Spun a twirly fruitcake,
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Feb 2009
              • 3876

              #1191
              Re: Dragons Fury: Custom Tournament #8

              Originally posted by Tristana
              tbh color gimmicks arent a bad thing lol
              ... in stepmania

              (Look on the DF engine at my Spirits file, colour gimmicks **** up frames)





              Originally posted by bluguerilla
              So Sexy Robotnik (SKG_Scintill) {.0001/10} [--]
              ___
              . RHYTHMS PR LAYERING
              . ZOMG I HAD TO QUIT OUT TERRIBLE
              .

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              • Tristana
                Banned
                • Jun 2012
                • 410

                #1192
                Re: Dragons Fury: Custom Tournament #8

                unless there are frame problems like those in powerpoints (those were real bad) i dont think frames are a big deal

                nobody really notices frame problems unless they're blatantly wrong (like powerpoints)

                just play to the song and you'll AAA lol........ its not that hard

                framers aren't preventing you guys from AAAing my files, it's your lack of skill sorry

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                • Xx{Midnight}xX
                  FFR Player
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 8548

                  #1193
                  Re: Dragons Fury: Custom Tournament #8

                  Originally posted by Tristana
                  framers aren't preventing you guys from AAAing my files, it's your lack of skill sorry
                  IMHO:

                  I'm sorry but this is not 100% accurate ever

                  Also: Your charts have some of the most ungodly awkward patterns ever. Makes it very nerve wracking to get passed certain parts and it feels like you value being technical a little too much.

                  Oddy framed section take a lot of special practice to get "good" at. I'm only good at coming up with ways to "cheat" the patterns more than actually hit them. There is a degree of luck involving how you deal with a chart with some forms of framers

                  There are ones like in Shade that can be cheated hilariously easy, which is actually completely intended in this case. I kept the pattern simple to make it cheatable. This is also the case in Epilogue where the 192nd offset notes are notes that are meant to be emphasized due to to their sound, but weren't jumped due to the idea of keeping technicalities.

                  Then there are the ones such as in Papa Gonzalas that you can really approach either way, you can learn them legit, or learn to cheat them which might eventually turn into learning them legit but that's no the point here.

                  Like I said earlier my complaints where me rather being in a nasty mood and not thinking straight. I'm sorry I said it so mindlessly.

                  Anyways, my tip for the other D4 players tackling Papa Gonzalas who are struggling at this point is to treat them very much like a graced piano file (ala jump what you can when you can and if you think you can't jump it hit is as the nearest color between the grace note and the two main notes.) That's how I cut my score in a little over half. This works on all the the 64th notes, but the others are kinda mashed into my memory through the SM chart, so I don't really remember how I do the others, I just kind of hit them.

                  Another thing you can do is play Felsvelka a lot. I'm completely serious. The charts share very similarly oddly framed / very speedy to hit patterns. If the 24ths are what's bothering you, Trisection V2 (uhg) and Since 1983 are very good charts to practice for such streamy sections and have a tid bit of awkwardness to them as well.

                  Hopefully this helps anyone who's trying to catch up.

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                  • Tristana
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 410

                    #1194
                    Re: Dragons Fury: Custom Tournament #8

                    nice analysis gj
                    but tbh people need to straight up learn patterns instead of cheating em or blaming framers cause yeah... the bursts are p. hard to cheat as jumps cause they're not graced (they actually go to the sound of the instruments)

                    w/e gl dudes expect more of my files, the rape train aint stoppin :twis ted: :twis ted:

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                    • Charu
                      Snivy! Dohoho!
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 6207

                      #1195
                      Re: Dragons Fury: Custom Tournament #8

                      You know, I forgot to mention this but...

                      After the frames were fixed in Power Points, I immediately enjoyed the file, despite me hating jacks, lol. Very catchy and did like the color usage, even if it made reading some sections lulzy.

                      Or maybe it's just because I like the song for some reason. I don't know, I just find it fun regardless. (And me getting all those misses, yuck.)


                      Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                      Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                      Had a very shiny nose
                      And if you ever saw it
                      You could even say it glows

                      All of the other Snivies
                      Used to laugh and call him names
                      They never let poor Charu
                      Join in any Snivy games

                      (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                      Originally posted by Vendetta21
                      All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                      • LILaznrainy
                        FFR Player
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 7

                        #1196
                        Re: Dragons Fury: Custom Tournament #8





                        :3

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                        • HikamitheSoulReaper
                          FFR Player
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 163

                          #1197
                          Re: Dragons Fury: Custom Tournament #8

                          yay!!!^~^
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                          • SKG_Scintill
                            Spun a twirly fruitcake,
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 3876

                            #1198
                            Re: Dragons Fury: Custom Tournament #8

                            I won't AAA anything because I have a poopty keyboard, a poopty flash and a poopty comp. I get about 30% goods on every file.





                            Originally posted by bluguerilla
                            So Sexy Robotnik (SKG_Scintill) {.0001/10} [--]
                            ___
                            . RHYTHMS PR LAYERING
                            . ZOMG I HAD TO QUIT OUT TERRIBLE
                            .

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                            • xXOpkillerXx
                              Forever OP
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 4207

                              #1199
                              Re: Dragons Fury: Custom Tournament #8

                              Originally posted by Tristana
                              nice analysis gj
                              but tbh people need to straight up learn patterns instead of cheating em or blaming framers cause yeah... the bursts are p. hard to cheat as jumps cause they're not graced (they actually go to the sound of the instruments)

                              w/e gl dudes expect more of my files, the rape train aint stoppin :twis ted: :twis ted:
                              Lol your Papa Gonzales file is rly fun to play man, no bad framers in that one at all. And keepem coming, I like what you step~

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                              • ryuyasha
                                Rhythm is Magic
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 670

                                #1200
                                Re: Dragons Fury: Custom Tournament #8

                                Originally posted by hi19hi19
                                Remind me why the hell viewing credit transactions is vet-only?

                                Some of the things this site does make no sense to me lmao
                                It is not. I can see it just fine (other than a missing transaction, but I still have the credits so w/e). The problem is there does not seem to be a link to it other than through Google or my bookmarks.

                                Originally posted by psychoangel691
                                No matter what tournament you play it's likely you're going to come across something you don't like or are very bad at. If you want to get into the competitive side of FFR you need to learn how to deal with and overcome these songs/charts.

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