Ingame Song Information

[lxDestinyxl]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

The standard of current difficulty rating was established back in 2005 when FFR had only 100 or less songs. We're so familiar with this standard nowadays, but I can reset those for the better difficulty balance if it should be changed for the better balance.

Also, the new difficulty ratings would be FEO and Hardest, but admins don't want them.

ex.
FEO - 76-80 (Silence, SP, Runny, EHHS, Caprice, etc)
FMO - 81-87 (PE(both), FN, CP, Molto, GGC, etc)
FGO - 88-95 (OMW, Revo, Eclipse, DP)
Hst - 96-99 (vrofl)

What does FEO stand for?

Anyway, I do agree with new difficulty ratings, except "Hardest" just doesn't feel right. Maybe Death Piano and Vertex Beta vRofl could be in a category together. I can't think of any good names, but people can decide on that.

[foilman8805]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

FEO - take a guess, man. For Experts Only.

Also, I think 'What's What' should be re-rated. Definitely not 8 material. Should be a high 7.

Someone want to back me up on that?

[jimerax]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

FEO = For Experts Only

FYI, DP is definitely closer to Revo/Eclipse than vrofl in terms of difficulty.

[Tasselfoot]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

the reasoning it's 1-12 is because... *gasp*... it's 1-12 in-game! Making the unofficial be anything OTHER than 1-12 would just create amazing amounts of confusion to those unfamiliar with this thread.

and the in-game system is not changing from the 1-12 system any time soon. and don't try to tell me that it's actually 1-13 because we have the unnamed 13th that vROFL is. no other song is getting a 13 rating. unless, for some inexplicable reason, i add another vROFLesque song to the game.

[lxDestinyxl]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

unless, for some inexplicable reason, i add another vROFLesque song to the game.

What was darkshark's proposed "hardest song in the game excluding vRofl"?

[s0ulst0n3]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Szerencsetlen has got to be FMO...it's around the same difficulty of Hajnal.

[jimerax]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Szerencsetlen is long and has some tricky parts to PA, but not an FMO material in terms of speed.

[Villiex]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Just a question, for anybody who has the authority to answer (preferably jimerax himself): why is something like {Rose} only rated Challenging, while something like Smazar Madar is rated VC?

The way I look at these two levels... Szamar Madar is a couple of tricky things to PA that require virtually no speed at all if you are playing on FFR's VC level. In fact, if you're playing on the VC level... it's not even that hard to PA. {Rose}, however, is a much harder level even to play. It contains patterns that tend to favor one hand or the other and goes at 182 BPM. It seems that {Rose} should either be VC, or Szamar should be Challenging.

If there's some further reasoning, let me know so I won't suggest stupid things.

Also, I think 'What's What' should be re-rated. Definitely not 8 material. Should be a high 7.

I agree, for what it's worth.

[Tasselfoot]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

any other opinions on what's what? i'll replay it... but i thought i had initially asked a few people and all agreed on it being an 8.

for Szamar vs Rose... rose is all stream and alternating 8th jumps. it's really straightforward... and while there are a few tricky patterns in the stream, they repeat so you can get the hang of it pretty quickly. szamar is much more random, with fast bursts and the 24th staircases in the middle. neither is really that hard to FC, but szamar is much harder to PA.

[Villiex]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

That makes sense. I knew PA was include in the rating, but I didn't know it counted for so much. Thanks Tass.

[Coolboyrulez0]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

What about Black Wing Metamorphosis, it doesn't feel like a VD more like a C. And if it's a VD it's the hardest I have ever played(32nd, odd 48th(kinda like turkish march) to jumps and other hard sections)

[jimerax]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

{Rose} has a bit higher stamina/speed req than Szamar, but Szamar has a lot higher PA difficulty since Rose is basically a simple 16th stream file.

{Rose} is 182 BPM and had a few 4-framers but they are gone now.
3 arrow patterns might be hard for some people but they are basically index streams.
Thus, it was rated very low VC before and is rated very high C now.

[Tasselfoot]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

CBR: i polled the subbies (it's on the front page still, i think) about black wind's difficulty. everyone agreed it's an 8.

[Villiex]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Thanks to jimerax as well.

[igotrhythm]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

I'm not sure about What's What being an 8 myself, but if those who have paid money to the site agree, it's probably an 8, though it took about as much work as Diamond Heart (a 7) did to AAA for me.