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[Ntc2415]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

If Shashakiro wrote these rankings for these....

Everything would be easy.. no such thing as difficult or very challenging

[hi19hi19]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Seriously, someone needs to get rid of Chardish's blurb at the top of the first post.

Talk about irrelevant!

[LoneW0lf]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

whyis vertex beta a VC and crowdplease is a guru?
i find crowdpleaser way easier.

[Redorigami]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Crowdpleaser has the annoying bursts and the trill
Also guys, {Rose} is definitely a challening now as long as Over the Frail Dream is.
And Szerencsetlen is definitely easier than Choprite.

[LoneW0lf]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Vertex shbould be atleast FMO

[Redorigami]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Vertex has easy patterns, very easy patterns. I'm assuming the fact that it's so index friendly has some impact too.

[bballa48]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Also guys, {Rose} is definitely a challening now as long as Over the Frail Dream is.

No way. Honestly I just FC'd this song a few weeks ago with around 40 goods. And I have almost AAA'd a few FMOs. So... something isn't adding up here. The patterns in Rose are just ridiculously awkward.

[Redorigami]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Being awkward patterns is a matter of opinion.
And I'll reiterate. "I'm assuming the fact that it's so index friendly has some impact too."
I'm sure easily indexable files get some sort of curve on this seeing VB as VC and {Rose} as C, which is why it's understandable they'd be there.

[bballa48]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Well I see your point... I guess I just feel that there are more people who don't play index out there who also agree that the patterns are really difficult. O well it really doesn't matter... it's borderline.

[Tasselfoot]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

vertex beta is definitely VC. i got 6 goods on it in 1 try... not FMO. Rose... probably C, yes, as I AAAd it in 1 try the other day. will wait for jx input.

[heyitsmee]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

vertex beta VC... well you got 6 goods but ive been playing the game for some time like you and i full combo only a small % of runs and my best pa is like 15-14 goods with boos
just like a FMO pa on VC i get sub 6 goods like you said near AAA mostly

also its so hard on the hands
that file long and fast all the way with one hand trills
pretty sure its FMO

all those new guru fmos make it look VC but thats just because those are not FMOs
that was my opinion

[Tasselfoot]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

everything has scaled downward since the avmiss fix. and the 1-handed trills are fairly small in vB. even I can hit them now.

also... under the assumption that the FMOs listed as FMOs actually are FMOs.... then vB is a VC. so your issue is not with vB being a VC instead of an FMO... it's that the overall top-end of the difficulty scale is shifted downward. Which, well, isn't going to be rolled back.

[heyitsmee]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

"everything has scaled downward since the avmiss fix"

the tube was straight and symmetrical and now there are places that look off from all this pushing downwards

the pa range is unnormally wide at some spots in the VC and FMO range from stuff that should not be there

i think with the avmiss fix a new 1-13 range is needed again my opinion instead of pushing downwards to that solid C , VC range

just to mention there are FMOs i get really clean runs with sub 15 goods like NWE
and FMOs with 100 boos

well the variation range gets loser when going to FMO FGO but not so much from NWE or Midnight Dragon to Piano Etude (Demon Fire) and Mario Minor both FMOs.

i also dont see why to hold back from adding more range to the difficulty levels it will only make them more accurate and only 1 or 2 more are needed and will probably be a very final thing

[[HectoGtzMX]]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

We need 14 difficulties, split FMO's into 2 divisions instead of downgrading "the easiest" to VC, because heyitsmee is right, there's no comparison between NWE/Silence and Piano Etude/Mario Minor

[jimerax]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

The standard of current difficulty rating was established back in 2005 when FFR had only 100 or less songs. We're so familiar with this standard nowadays, but I can reset those for the better difficulty balance if it should be changed for the better balance.

Also, the new difficulty ratings would be FEO and Hardest, but admins don't want them.

ex.
FEO - 76-80 (Silence, SP, Runny, EHHS, Caprice, etc)
FMO - 81-87 (PE(both), FN, CP, Molto, GGC, etc)
FGO - 88-95 (OMW, Revo, Eclipse, DP)
Hst - 96-99 (vrofl)