League of Legends [v2]

[colt.45]

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zzz bored and ranked disabled. come play? xD

I can tonight. Right now Im about to go finish some errands.

[lumphoboextreme]

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I guess that's fine. Kids bashing me cause I don't know how to kha zix. I'll prob be back on at like 8 or 9

[stargroup100]

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Sure, there are a lot of scenarios where risk isn't negligible. I'm not saying that every action carries no risk. I'm saying some have none. One counterexample doesn't disprove it. You literally need to list every single interaction and associate a meaningful risk to make your argument work.

1. that's not what we're talking about. if you can't agree on the topic of debate then you shouldn't be debating

i mean if you're arguing against the statement "any investment of resources comes with an inherent risk" then your position is by definition "there are situations in which investments of resources come with no risk"

spamming mundo cleavers while sitting in base is not an "investment of resources"

2. while it's true one counterexample doesn't disprove your statement, you don't actually need to "list every single interaction and associate a risk" to prove my point. do you actually need to list every integer to show that it can be the sum of 2 other integers? clearly you haven't done any real math or you'd never make this claim

Are you telling me people are more commonly benevolent, and don't even take into account the likelihood that the other person with screw them over?

this is my general life philosophy because I think it's fundamentally better for humans to help each other

Sure, if you know the other person well enough, or have an agreement before going in you can easily both take the lighter punishment. However, most people don't know each other. Most people don't trust each other, regardless of their morality. We don't exactly live in a society where those who trust thrive. You said most often you would choose to cooperate. How would I know that on the other end? I would prefer the lighter sentence, but I'll be damned if you'd give me longer time to save yourself. Rational self interest dominates here.

again, I'm a living counterexample of this. my point again: BOTH defect and cooperate are justified strategic choices, and the fact that you don't understand this means you don't understand game theory

I can't be any more straightforward than this

You're telling me that a risk cannot change to being negligible? That most risks don't diminish when it's far less common to be punished for it? I'll take Lee Sin as an example. Picking him in a coordinated setting is a far greater risk than doing so in soloqueue. In teams, strong as he is early on, you have to plan for his eventual falloff. If you don't snowball somebody by then, you become a liability that can only perform soft cc maybe twice in a teamfight and a displacement once, usually at the start. Picking him in soloqueue diminishes that risk, as the enemy team is, more often than not, no longer extremely coordinated. They are far less likely to shut you down and prevent you from snowballing anybody.

I don't know if you've heard of this d1 player named best riven na. I once smurfed with him and he went legendary 12 games in a row with lee sin, something he can only do with few other champions

lee sin is actually an insanely good champion for carrying yourself if you're good. you don't understand this because you're not actually good at the game. I'd explain but it'll all go over your head, just like the last 20 paragraphs I've typed

This can be applied to blahblahblah

this whole thing is irrelevant

Are you required to be a bag of dicks to get your point across? Am I being a dick to you currently? You aren't exactly being nice, but you're certainly far less scathing. There really is no need to be cunty in a discussion on a forum.

if someone said that ad carries never deal more damage than support champions and someone was being a cunt to him for saying that, it doesn't matter how much of a cunt he is, the guy is still wrong

you're wrong, whether or not I'm a cunt has nothing to do with it. more accurately, I'm being a cunt because you're wrong

And if he's totally right, instead of only partially, he should be able to convince me beyond all shadow of a doubt fairly easily. So far all he's been is insulting, and acts like his examples are the end all be all. You've at least tried to provide a decent counterexample with the blitz grab.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

try convincing a creationist that evolution isn't "just a theory." I dare you

If I don't understand how to assess situations then how exactly do I survive in my matches? Gold is still the top 10% of players, even if everyone calls it the new bronze.

if you understand how to assess situations, why are you still gold

you make this statement as if the top 10% of players actually understand this game on a strategic level

It's not meant to be a full mathematical analysis, I'm simply stating that as a variable approaches a number it eventually becomes negligibly close. the limit as the risk goes to 0, is, in this case, 0. If we were talking about something even mildly more complex then I'd give a more complex answer.

if a variable approaches infinity it never becomes "negligibly close" to infinity
whether or not something becomes "negligibly close" depends on what you define as "close" from both situation assessment and error analysis
the limit as risk goes to 0 makes what 0? risk? so risk = risk?????

if you wanna play this "not a full mathematical analysis" game I can say that because of something called chaos theory, any tiny decision you make during a game can completely alter its course, therefore making the associated risks of any decision extremely large and significant. have you never heard of chaos theory? maybe you should go back to school and take a chaos theory class

What have you done, exactly? Theoretical numbers for theoretical changes to a champ? Items? What have you analyzed? I'm interested to know in a nonargumentative sense.

And the Dunning Kruger Effect is misplaced here, I'm not saying that mine is the only way, or even the better way, simply that his extreme blanket statement isn't necessarily right. I'm open to a valid argument to the contrary.

sorry but I only share my analysis to people I actually trust

I've spent way too much time working on this to be willy-nilly throwing this information around like it's free to people who won't even understand it and use it poorly and make me look like a cunt. no thx

[choof]

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posting after bufang

[Razor]

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went 2-8 in placements, placed gold 4 from plat 2

now i'm 37-25 back in plat 5

i forgot how bad gold players were lel

next stop diamond

[hi19hi19]

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Xenics running the "Yasuo setup comp" vs SKT S
Shyvana Wukong Yasuo Lulu + safe ADC (Cait, Ez, Lucian)

I've seen it a few times before in competitive play, saw it in the NA challenger league games recently. Definitely seems to be the best comp for getting a Yasuo rolling. Reliable AoE knockups in every section of the map at 6, general good scaling and great teamfight potential.

Fun to see the big knockup wombo comboes and the smart rotations the other team has to make to avoid them.


That said I still think Yasuo has an overtuned and overloaded kit and is an un-fun champion to play against

[.Gazelle.]

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oh also jesse told me i'm perma'd on NA rip cbrx

(account sharing and referrals I'd assume.)

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[ReikonKeiri]

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Gold being trash is an understatement. I can't believe how hard I struggled last season. Truly embarrassing.

[AWlliamaMync]

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Äåíü äîáðûé-

[PriestREA]

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Äåíü äîáðûé-

I agree, but what about the children?

[Magicturbo]

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Gold being trash is an understatement. I can't believe how hard I struggled last season. Truly embarrassing.

You're making me feel bad for being stuck in Gold :l


I did skip from Gold V to Gold III though ._.

Playing really casually and moving upppp

[Razor]

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60% win rate, back in plat, chyeah -- hopefully diamond soon

[Xiz]

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Cool we can finally duo together.

[albaneenesk8r]

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leveling up my smurf for bronze 5 fun xD Hexakill mode btw is some bullshit. Take everyteam comp from pro play and add teemo... it's pure hell out here ppl getting raped

[darklordsarumon9]

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Holy shit hexakill is fun. Play Mord, siphon their whole team with e, laugh while w spins.