Vertex Beta vRofl thread - post here if you qualify

[TheSaxRunner05]

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+1

[foxfire667]

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I'm still confused as to why no one really cared when Plan did the exact same thing, but when Jake does it an uproar started. It isn't even like people didn't check either, immediately after Plan posted the score Jake asked this:

How is Whimper Wall recording scores for you?

So the lack of response from everyone (and the fact that plan got his vROFL no problem) no doubt led him to believe that it wasn't an issue. I completely agree with qqwref, no banning should be tossed about for the whoring of *Whimper Wall* considering how seemingly okay everyone was with it until this point.

It probably shouldn't have gone unnoticed for this long anyway, especially considering how until it's removal, *Whimper Wall* always had a high spot on the most played section of the FFR daily stats. Do I think that it is fair people could spam a billion points with it in a day? Obviously not, but if some people are allowed to do it without any hassle, WHY would others not do the same thing? Why play FFR for 20 straight hours to get a billion when you could do it in less than half the time, and with almost no effort?

I'm glad the song has been removed, and it should have never been released at all if people didn't want things like this to occur. Moreover, when the "exploit" was first seen, people who were against it should have immediately contacted Velocity or another admin about it. This shouldn't have started an outrage yesterday, it should have been discussed the first time people who KNEW *Whimper Wall* shouldn't record score saw people getting GT with it.

I personally had no idea that scoring was supposed to be disabled for *Whimper Wall* until I saw the comments in this thread (then again I wasn't here for a year, so maybe I missed some posts about it). When I played it, I chose R^2 because averages give life (unlike in the other engines) meaning it would be harder to fail. I just thought it was a trolololol file like vROFL for people to screw around with and that no one really cared.

Tl;Dr: Don't blame the people who whored it because it looked like people were pretty cool with it. Also take Plan's vROFL away because it's stupid as hell he gets the token for whoring *Whimper Wall* but others who followed his strategy were attacked.

/rant

[~Zeta~]

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No one noticed plan because no one brought it up or checked. I didn't know or see this thread when plan posted or I would have called him out as well. I even posted that plan's should be included in the reset and revoking.


Also, this IS and exploit/glitch. I don't even know how you can say it isn't. You have to play on a certain engine to get it to work which it doesn't work on the others. That's exploiting a glitch. A loophole in the programming.

EDIT: Saying that it's fair play because ONE out of the 3 public engine records doesn't even make sense. If you're going against what was originally coded/made, that's a glitch. Purposely doing it because only R^2 records is exploiting it. You're making it sound like speedrunning. "If you can do it, it's allowed."

[TC_Halogen]

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Not only that, but as mentioned before, it isn't fairly obtainable for everyone. Some people don't have the luxury of quad-holding and are therefore exploiting a loophole to play Whimper Wall for scores because their hardware allows them to. That shouldn't be possible.

I'd revoke vRofl for anyone who did it only playing Whimper Wall.

[Velocity]

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If you ask me:
- This whole thing is the fault of certain people for putting this song ingame (again). It's clear that there wasn't enough testing effort put into testing whether this file was appropriate for being released. If anyone is at fault here it's whoever who put that song in the game, ignoring the judging queue, without fully thinking it through - not the users.
- It's not a "glitch" to play through a publicly available chart on an officially endorsed engine, then have the score record to your grandtotal. The fact that admins intended to prevent this particular song from recording scores, but didn't, doesn't mean that recording scores on it is a "glitch". It should not be a blacklistable or even bannable offense to fail to read the admins' mind.
- Users should not be penalized for trying to make the best of a situation. In fact, we should expect people to make the best of any situation, as long as they don't cheat.
- I 100% support rolling back grandtotal/tokens achieved from Whimper Wall. However, any further punishment can only be justified by sadism or low-level megalomania.

I have rolled back the GT's for those that I was able to figure out, I also patched 2 bugs that were in my score recording code both related and unrelated to this mishap.

I don't think I'll be banning them pre say, but I do wish that if someone finds something like this in the future, they at least try to report it to me.

Also, the file won't be public anymore either, I really only enabled it to test things in R^3 to see how it handled, but left it open. Just wasn't expecting R^2 to allow score saving since the older engines prevented it fine.

[EzExZeRo7497]

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in b4 evil smoke's first post

[SK8R43]

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Gonna be an amazing first post if ya ask me

[yo man im awesome]

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Congratulations Evil!!! Make that first post count!

[evil smoke]

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First post. Hello

[Sailor Venus]

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in b4 evilsmokelord420's post




edit: wow you ninjad me wow

[Riotpolice]

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Holy shit.

[psychoangel691]

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First post. Hello

Very nice first post haha. Check your tokens.

[hi19hi19]

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Congrats evil smoke

[popsicle_3000]

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keep going!!! 15min to improve!

btw, who the hell are you???

[DossarLX ODI]

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Congratulations on vrofl + first post