The Fitness Thread

[Reincarnate]

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Yeah, right now just going to devote a week or two to "de-DOMSing" as much as possible. Going in again tomorrow to squat and keep killing my quads until they suck it up and adapt, recover a bit, repeat.

Right now my chest muscles are experiencing DOMS, too, from the benchpress, but I can ignore it because the quads hurt a lot more. I figure it's all just newb-pains that iron their way out with time/repetition.


EDIT: Creatine arrived! Woohoo. Now I will pump out a few extra reps and get even more sore. XD XD XD XD

[Senip]

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Are all of them built equal, more or less, or are there any specific kind worth getting? I looked around at other forums where people had quad damage (LOL) after their first squat session and almost everyone mentioned that it'd be worth looking into rollers, too.

You can get a rumble roller from elitefts.com , theyre probably the best for maximizing damage while you roll em out, so it feels like fingers digging into you.

[Reach]

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I like to give my muscles at least 4 days of rest before I work them again.

And I still get DOMS for a lot of exercises, so it never really goes away. It comes down a lot to the intensity of your training though. If you continue to increase training intensity and volume, you will keep getting DOMS. If your muscles adjust to your particular workout, it'll probably go away.

Though I find I never get DOMS in my triceps or my lats, but I can get it really bad in my legs and traps, and sometimes chest. Calves I used to get really badly but now I never get it even if I completely change the workout.

Seems to be a very individual thing, though I'd get used to it :P

[Reincarnate]

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But how on earth do you get around/function/continue to work out/go to work/etc when your quads are completely and utterly fried? lol

[Reach]

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But how on earth do you get around/function/continue to work out/go to work/etc when your quads are completely and utterly fried? lol

Hobble.

But more seriously, I never work the day after legs. I do legs either friday night or saturday.

And eventually my 'DOMS' decreased to the point that it's pretty tolerable and more of an aching soreness without any decrease in function. So basically now I just deal with it, since it doesn't prevent me from walking or running. It's just...sore.

[Reincarnate]

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Yeah I don't mind being sore. I mind the whole not-being-able-to-walk thing, or not being able to sit down to take a shit without screaming bloody murder, LOL.

In any case I am hoping the debilitating DOMS variant is only a newbie phenomenon.

[jductape]

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i'm getting my MRI on wednesday. fuuu please be an easy fix.

Yea, GOOD LUCK!!! Seriously.

On a completely other note, I read that some people's bodies simply don't respond to creatine. I'm starting to fear that I'm one of them. I haven't noticed any difference in time or amount of weights lifted other than the small increases that come with standard lifting.

Is this true that some bodies don't respond?


side note: I love being sore, it's a great feeling.

[Reach]

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Yeah I don't mind being sore. I mind the whole not-being-able-to-walk thing, or not being able to sit down to take a shit without screaming bloody murder, LOL.

In any case I am hoping the debilitating DOMS variant is only a newbie phenomenon.

It is. For most muscles, I only experienced said type of DOMS for a few workouts when I started.

After that, I still got pretty damn sore but not to the point of decreased function.

On a completely other note, I read that some people's bodies simply don't respond to creatine. I'm starting to fear that I'm one of them. I haven't noticed any difference in time or amount of weights lifted other than the small increases that come with standard lifting.

Is this true that some bodies don't respond?

Yes it is true.

However, if you really want to know, do you keep a lift log? If so, just stop taking it and go ahead and try one of your big lifts you have logged. Make sure it's the first lift of your routine to keep things fair.

If you lose a couple reps, you know it's working.


When I tried this for bench press I fell from 9 clean reps to failing on the 7th (and I'm currently progressing at about +1 rep per session).

[Reincarnate]

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How do you guys like to take your creatine? Some seem to like mixing it into juice/their protein shake... but I am tempted to just nom the powder + send it all down the hatch with some water. XD

[Reach]

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How do you guys like to take your creatine? Some seem to like mixing it into juice/their protein shake... but I am tempted to just nom the powder + send it all down the hatch with some water. XD

That's how I take it, but other people throw it in their shake. Honestly, it doesn't matter. Just make sure you take it with some food. I also like to take it post workout.

[jductape]

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I put the powder in with my protein powder for a good ol' shake. I'll definitely try that log idea. Also, I don't drink the creatine/protein for a good 20-25 mins after lifting. Could that be impacting it as well?

Also, how is creatine not a word in the google chrome dictionary?

[SCWolf]

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I put my creatine in my weight gainer. Easiest for me that way.

Also I only ever get DOMS. I just deal with that shit.



Pumpin'

[Senip]

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lolol SC is cracking me up

Creatine comes with the prewo I use (storm) and then I put 5 grams for intra, then 5 grams post with shake.

It's best to take it before and after, imo (and lots of other people). If not for just the pure muscle endurance, there's other stuff as well, like how they think it can erase the effects of a concussion, etc.

[Reincarnate]

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fantastic video tutorial (IMO) on squat grip by Mark Rippetoe:

http://vimeo.com/30763907

Summary:

-Thumbs above the bar
-Narrow grip
-Elbows up at all times, don't let them drop or it'll loosen the upper back
-Keep the wrists aligned with your forearm/back of the hand, nice and straight
-Keep the weight off the arms/elbows -- on the back only

Basically tendonitis is a real common result of the squat because a lot of people apparently hold the bar incorrectly. When you hold onto the bar (esp with thumbs under), you risk flexing your wrists which means much of the load is distributed down the wrist/into the elbow, which is exactly what you don't want.

I can finally walk again so today at the gym I am going to, well, squat again and probably render myself immobile for another week. XD XD XD

[Senip]

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fantastic video tutorial (IMO) on squat grip by Mark Rippetoe:

http://vimeo.com/30763907

Summary:

-Thumbs above the bar
-Narrow grip
-Elbows up at all times, don't let them drop or it'll loosen the upper back
-Keep the wrists aligned with your forearm/back of the hand, nice and straight
-Keep the weight off the arms/elbows -- on the back only

Basically tendonitis is a real common result of the squat because a lot of people apparently hold the bar incorrectly. When you hold onto the bar (esp with thumbs under), you risk flexing your wrists which means much of the load is distributed down the wrist/into the elbow, which is exactly what you don't want.

I can finally walk again so today at the gym I am going to, well, squat again and probably render myself immobile for another week. XD XD XD

If you hold it thumbless, especially with heavier weights, it'll roll down your back, which can really, really hurt/snap your arms. So...dont do that. The only thing I do thumbless work with is back, where if it slips out, its just gonna hit the floor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ME8gEN54Ao

Just squeeze the shit out of the bar and concentrate on holding your arms up, you'll keep it up.