Newtown, Connecticut Elementary School Shooting

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although i'm hoping to have my concealed permit and 9mm soon i still want an AR-15 or a civilian Streyr AUG. mmmm

back on topic tho, did they find out if his 24 y/o brother was involved?

[psychoangel691]

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although i'm hoping to have my concealed permit and 9mm soon i still want an AR-15 or a civilian Streyr AUG. mmmm

back on topic tho, did they find out if his 24 y/o brother was involved?

The brother was at work at the time.

[Reincarnate]

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I was able to walk into my own elementary school with nobody stopping me whatsoever (I went back just to see what things looked like).

[.Layne.]

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Nice.

[ichliebekase]

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I went to my elementary school not too long ago either and I was able to walk right in (although the front office is right in front of you with huge glass windows and doors as you walk in so people would notice if you walked in with anything odd). On the opposite side though, to get into my old middle school, you need to be buzzed in, talk to the secretaries through the intercom, and they confirm everything then they let you in. My high school has no regulations whatsoever, office was no where near the front doors and you didn't even have to walk by it to get to classrooms.

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Exactly.

Edit: Just saw your edit, originally they said it was used. They need to get their shit straight.

Also let me be a little more specific. When I was in Jersey I had an ex who had a son. We had him enrolled in Kindergarten and when I went to that school I had to be identified before getting in, then had to go into the office where they'd check identification and you'd have to get a visitor badge. They also didn't just let you walk in with a bag or whatever without knowing what was inside it. It didn't matter who you were or who you knew everyone went through that process. So yeah, I have good reason to question it regardless.

just because you had to go through security at that one school does not mean that all schools are like that, especially in smaller towns

[psychoangel691]

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just because you had to go through security at that one school does not mean that all schools are like that, especially in smaller towns

They said in the report that the doors are locked at the school so obviously they follow some sort of security procedure there. Also I lived in a smaller town.

[ichliebekase]

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Found another article about the shooter: http://gma.yahoo.com/connecticut-sho...opstories.html

One thing I saw is that he shot his mother at her home, and that she may have previously worked at the school but was not currently employed by the school, nor was she a teacher.

Makes this shooting seem a little more random imo.

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They said in the report that the doors are locked at the school so obviously they follow some sort of security procedure there. Also I lived in a smaller town.

AGAIN, just because something like this has been true for YOU does NOT mean it is true for EVERYBODY ELSE

i'm sorry...you're frustrating and i'm losing my cool. I will leave this thread.

[psychoangel691]

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Found another article about the shooter: http://gma.yahoo.com/connecticut-sho...opstories.html

One thing I saw is that he shot his mother at her home, and that she may have previously worked at the school but was not currently employed by the school, nor was she a teacher.

Makes this shooting seem a little more random imo.

The article says they interviewed the father but I thought they said the father was killed too before. Man I'm just done reading this shit until they have stuff straight. First it was he killed his father, brother and mother. Now they were questioning the father and brother and the mother wasn't a teacher at the school like they said earlier. I quit.

AGAIN, just because something like this has been true for YOU does NOT mean it is true for EVERYBODY ELSE

i'm sorry...you're frustrating and i'm losing my cool. I will leave this thread.

I'm sorry that I have an opinion about the fact that some guy walked in when he had weapons in his possession and not a single person thought it was odd to let some 20yr old into an elementary school that was from NJ and not from CT. Into a school with locked doors no less and now the mother didn't work there so what's the excuse for letting him in now? Oh and you keep on going on with the true for me thing the reports stated the doors are locked during the day. That's what I'm going off of, if they change that well then it's different but until then I question how he was allowed into the building.

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i honestly don't think it's a very efficient argument in the first place considering the news can't get the facts straight anyway.

and if he had guns it wouldn't be hard to break into a school. maybe this is what happened:

a man with guns broke into a school full of children and started a massacre.

[psychoangel691]

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Until they report that he broke in somehow my stance stays.

[ichliebekase]

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The article says they interviewed the father but I thought they said the father was killed too before. Man I'm just done reading this shit until they have stuff straight. First it was he killed his father, brother and mother. Now they were questioning the father and brother and the mother wasn't a teacher at the school like they said earlier. I quit.

I actually hadn't read anything saying that he had killed the brother or father, but I agree that they really need to get this stuff straightened out. I've never seen a news report get so many stories mixed up and every 5 minutes you hear news that negates previous reports. Highly disorganized, to say the least.

[Reincarnate]

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Everyone wants someone to blame, but really, plenty of schools have virtually no security at all and you can walk right in. This is very reminiscent of the whole 9/11 argument... "How could you let this happen?!" But of course, "preventing" such easily-achieved feats requires some seriously invasive shit, hence the TSA. Hindsight's always 20/20.

Much like anything else in our two-party dominated system, everyone wants one side or the other. Some people want guns completely gone. Others don't want their freedom to bear arms infringed upon. No one is willing to fight for the middle ground, and we can see the devastating consequences of it. They aren't going to go away, and the current system is obviously failing.

We do background checks, but that is only good if the person has committed a misdemeanor or felony.

Two key aspects that go unchecked in sale of guns in the US:
1. The mental stability of the individual
2. How responsible the individual is in handling, storing, and educating others in gun safety

I would be all for a federal or state license that requires checks of those kind before you can legally purchase, own, or use firearms.

[Choofers]

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Yeah, there definitely needs to be some sort of gun control/handling class that's mandatory before you're able to purchase weapons.