The Fitness Thread

[Calcium Deposit]

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Lost 60 pounds on pure cardio myself, eating copious amounts of junk food along the way

Then again I also have a pretty physically intensive job

[SCWolf]

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Lost 60 pounds on pure cardio myself, eating copious amounts of junk food along the way

Then again I also have a pretty physically intensive job

As long as you're burning more calories than you're intaking, you will lose weight.

EDIT: First meal of the day

[Mike Weedmark]

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Math is important but doesn't replace plain gusto. At some point theory needs to turn into action. What Reach was saying about exercise being less important than diet may be true, but if you're not doing both, you're not optimizing your results.

Exercise isn't just about burning off that peanut. The way you act tells your body how it needs to compose itself, and affects how the deficit created by diet is put into action in terms of burning. Eating at -1000 and not working out would create a wasting away effect that leaves you weaker, more lethargic and less healthy than when you started.

Workouts also give better results the longer and harder you do them. 20 minutes of light jogging might burn off a single peanut, but doing twice that in HIIT might burn off a whole pack, and the metabolic effect stays with you longer. 20 minutes is nothing unless you're REALLY going at it. Most people block their activity in terms of hours. An hour of hockey here, an hour of running there, an hour of lifting 3 times a week, and so on. A list of workouts ordered by effectiveness would be based on calories burned per hour.

I would even say math could be ignored completely without becoming much of a problem. Fitness is only really governed by two general rules:

1. Your body adapts to what you put it through.
2. It knows what you need to eat to fuel it, and it will tell you.

The mathiness of fitness is mostly caused by lazy people who feel like getting fit is about spiting your instincts, and is used more to RATIONALIZE fitness than actually improve it.

[Reach]

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This is why I do think the math is important. Based on what I've read online (after trying to cut through most of the broscience), weight loss is mostly a function a diet anyway. Exercise is just there to help maintain pre-existing muscle mass.

A few people IRL know I am going on a diet and think I am overthinking the whole thing by focusing so much on the math. I just fail to see how it's considered overkill when it seems so crucial to understanding what's going on.

Otherwise you run into the kind of scenario you brought up before -- people signing up for gym memberships, working out for 2-3 weeks, and seeing no progress/giving up because they didn't have a diet plan.

Without understanding the math, it's too easy to work out, get hungry, and eat way more than you actually worked off, thus resulting in a net gain instead.

Lol yeah, you can never really overdo it when it comes to dieting. Taking it seriously is the first step to success. People with a lax attitude about it never end up getting the results they want.

I call the lax attitude '****arounditis'. Many people suffer from this. I used to. They go to the gym and work hard but don't get serious about the things that actually matter and never get results.

Of course, combining exercise with diet is the way to go, because it will improve overall health.

Being at caloric deficit though is ultimately what determines how much you will lose.

[Wayward Vagabond]

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im fat and need to lose 50 pounds help

[SCWolf]

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im fat and need to lose 50 pounds help

[Wayward Vagabond]

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alright thanks for the post. after reading it carefully and following your illustrated instructions(thanks for the visuals!) i have come up with a diet and exercise plan to help me reach my goal in 3-4 months.

[Senip]

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Started lifting weights/cross country in high school when I was 14, 5'4 and about 240 pounds. Dropped to about 205, then had a growth spurt and went up to about 6'1.

Throughout high school I was pretty solid on diet (cheated a lot, but still), wrestled, played football, and lifted lots of weights. By the time I was 17/18 I was benching 425, squatting over 600 pounds, and powercleaning 275 (I have horrible balance/form so that always gave me trouble). Was about 275 and 15% body fat, I would guess, I had a 4 pack but nothing really solid.

broke my fingers and lost scholarships, went to college and sat on my ass and ate pizza thinking the walking around would be good enough. Ballooned up to 330 and about 30-40% bf, got a job at UPS, and dropped to about 290.

Started lifting weights a year ago, dropped down to 215 and hit a plateau, then did a mini bulk up to 240. Problem was, I didnt have a low enough body fat so it didn't really help me out a lot, even though I felt a lot better/thought I looked better.

Started the slow carb diet around a month ago, dropped from 240 to 215.

SCD rules are:

Rule #1: Avoid “white” starchy carbohydrates (or those that can be white). This means all bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, and grains. If you have to ask, don’t eat it.
Rule #2: Eat the same few meals over and over again, especially for breakfast and lunch. You already do this; you’re just picking new default meals.
Rule #3: Don’t drink calories. Exception: 1-2 glasses of dry red wine per night is allowed.
Rule #4: Don’t eat fruit. (Fructose –> glycerol phosphate –> more bodyfat, more or less.) Avocado and tomatoes are excepted.
Rule #5: Take one day off per week and go nuts. I choose and recommend Saturday.

I eat mostly lentils and black beans for my carb source. Cycle the carbs a little bit to keep my body in shock. After I get back from my vacation, I'm going to get a trainer at my gym (its a "hardcore" gym, lots and lots of bodybuilders) to help me build a fitness program for 12 weeks, trying to cut my body fat all the way down and pack some more muscle on me.

Sitting at 215, around 13-12% body fat, and I feel pretty fantastic. Squats have never really recovered, but benching 385-395, squatting around 475, and working on deadlifting 500 pounds.

The hardest thing about diets is that most people don't realize that it has to be a lifestyle change, they say "oh, I'm gonna diet until I hit X, then I can stop and go back to eating the way I was." If you do that, you're gonna get fat.

Working on bodybuilding, so that's why I'm trying to get to lower than 8% bf. If I just wanted to be regular, I'd get to 8% and quit, but screw that shiz.

[SCWolf]

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alright thanks for the post. after reading it carefully and following your illustrated instructions(thanks for the visuals!) i have come up with a diet and exercise plan to help me reach my goal in 3-4 months.

On the exact page you posted on, there was a damn cavalcade of information that would help. It would help if you read.

[kommisar]

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chris lets go play itg ur fat

[SCWolf]

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chris lets go play itg ur fat

2moro lets doit

[Wayward Vagabond]

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On the exact page you posted on, there was a damn cavalcade of information that would help. It would help if you read.

it would help if you summarized

[Syhto]

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eat less move more drink more water

[Wayward Vagabond]

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sweet thanks shyto!

[kommisar]

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2moro lets doit

legit i'll talk to serge about going tomorrow night since we're chilling at his place tomorrow.