FFR poker league -dead-

[awein999]

Originally Posted by Reach

Hand sample? I've gotten blasted lately in some pretty hilarious sessions. I dropped 12 BI in the 0.25/0.5 game last week in under 1000 hands HU. Some guy steam rolled me and it was like every hand was rigged. It was the worst hit I've ever taken. With that said, I won it all back and more later.

Basically, 1/2 outers are pretty common dude and if you haven't clocked well over 10k hands you probably just had bad sessions.


Really, only half? If it's that soft I might consider them again if I need money or a break from cash games, but on tilt when I moved up I wasn't hitting any fish. Everyone was a tight nit and super aggro as the bubble approached. Maybe just bad luck.

Yeah these runs happen. I played live with some old friends almost every day during winter break. And I'd lose 80 dollar pots, 120 pots while being an 80%+ favorite with all the chips in the middle and he literally hit the underdog about 5 or 6 times in a row in huge pots in a span of a week and a half. If he needs to hit a gut shot on the river, he'd hit the gut shot, even if the other person all in has one of his outs and the other person is drawing dead. He was making every draw. It was getting to the point where I actually questioned legitimacy but there was nothing fishy going on except for my big downwards spike on the line graph of chance. I was down like 215 dollars at this point for live play for winter break.

Then in one day I profited 340, hands held, bluffs worked, image building went how I wanted it to. I had bought in only for 20. Everything went right. Then the next day I made a modest 180. This person I'm talking about is one of like 4 others but he's a complete fool at the table and it's always a shame to see him win.

[rsr2]

Okay, I signed up, but I don't have any cash on there right now. I use Full Tilt Poker instead because I just enjoy that more. But I can put money on it if I need to.

[lumphoboextreme]

mmm placed 4th in some hyperturbo 82$ tourney on stars for 2500$

[Reach]

Jesus dude. Well, that's the beauty of tourneys I guess. Nicely done.

One good run can make you a lot of money, whereas you just rolled the equivalent of me grinding for several months XD

With that said I've had zero luck in tourneys thus far. I've ran fairly deep a couple of times, but every time it comes down to an all in situation when I'm pretty close to big money, and I get it in good and get sucked out on. Urg D:

[Reincarnate]

Poker is one of those games I am embarrassed to admit I don't know how to play.

[Reach]

Originally Posted by Reincarnate

Poker is one of those games I am embarrassed to admit I don't know how to play.

That's interesting, in particular because of how mathematical you are. There are a lot of math nerds in the online poker guru circle nowadays.

You could pick it up pretty quickly and would be good at it if you wanted to be.

[Reincarnate]

Well, the other embarrassing thing is that I've tried to pick it up before, but I've never fully learned all the rules, and so I get pissed off -- which leads to quitting. There are a ton of rules, and I've never found a site that explains them in the way that I like (it's always a disorganized ****mash), and when I try to get people to explain them to me, it's always a bunch of "Oh yeah, sorry, I forgot to mention blahblahblah" every other sentence.

All I want is a freaking model of the game in a no-bullshit format so I can start slapping EV/probability/variance/utility metrics to that shit and start pushing out some gains. I want to know how long the game lasts, how the game changes over time, how many people are required at min/max, how many are in a typical game, how blinds work, how card distribution changes over time, how the flop works, who "owns" which cards, how turns work, blahblahblahblah.

[nois-or-e]

Takes a minute to learn, and a lifetime to master. . .

I'm sure if you picked up any random book about hold'em it wouldn't take long for you to grasp it and commence domination...

And if you'd like an eay learning forum to apply these new skills, there are games up in the op for this for week one of the feb leaderboard.

[Reach]

Originally Posted by Reincarnate

Well, the other embarrassing thing is that I've tried to pick it up before, but I've never fully learned all the rules, and so I get pissed off -- which leads to quitting. There are a ton of rules, and I've never found a site that explains them in the way that I like (it's always a disorganized ****mash), and when I try to get people to explain them to me, it's always a bunch of "Oh yeah, sorry, I forgot to mention blahblahblah" every other sentence.

All I want is a freaking model of the game in a no-bullshit format so I can start slapping EV/probability/variance/utility metrics to that shit and start pushing out some gains. I want to know how long the game lasts, how the game changes over time, how many people are required at min/max, how many are in a typical game, how blinds work, how card distribution changes over time, how the flop works, who "owns" which cards, how turns work, blahblahblahblah.

I have a bunch of strategy sites bookmarked and a million hand charts and whatnot with all of the probability information you need, not to mention variance calculators and heads up displays.

But it sounds like none of that would be useful to you right now because you need more of the basics.


Do you have facebook? If you added me we could mess around on a poker utility there and at least it has a proper chat interface so I could explain everything along the way.

[Reincarnate]

I do -- sent you a PM

[awein999]

I can help out as well.

What poker ap? And Reach I need to friend you on fb.

[lumphoboextreme]

well my earnings are split about evenly between sngs and tourneys. cash tables im down a good bit because i lose every flip ever there and 70/30's are basically flips.

[Reach]

Originally Posted by lumphoboextreme

well my earnings are split about evenly between sngs and tourneys. cash tables im down a good bit because i lose every flip ever there and 70/30's are basically flips.

Those aren't flips. If you're getting your money in that good, you should be pretty happy about it. I'm happy getting my money in 55/45. You do realize that, if you play a large enough sample of hands, 70/30s will work out in your favor in the long run?

Losing in the short term is just the statistics of getting unlucky. I actually like it nowadays when some idiot gets it in with like 16% against me and sucks out. It leads them to a false delusion of having the one up on me and I'll suck them dry if they don't leave the table.

[Reincarnate]

I am looking at a few of my friends on FB who are making money off this shit -- there's no reason why I shouldn't be, too :O

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF bring on the poker

[Reach]

gonna whip this boy into shape

[lumphoboextreme]

heh rubix i'll play you heads up sng for 200$ now you game?

[awein999]

First recorded tourney starts in 45 minutes. *excited*

[TC_Halogen]

Seriously, if people are going to not remember the tournament, why even register? Half of the players were sitting out at one point.

[Go_Oilers_Go]

That's what FFR users are good at.

[Shikari]

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

Seriously, if people are going to not remember the tournament, why even register? Half of the players were sitting out at one point.

This, so many times...