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  • Patashu
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Apr 2006
    • 8609

    #76
    Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

    Originally posted by gnr61
    -large 8th jacks; I was once told by a jumpstream sensei that 8th jacks of more than 4 notes in length in the middle of a jumpstream are disproportionately difficult to the rest of the stream. I'd go one step further and say anything more than 3 notes in length tends to be a bit abrasive and detracts badly from the file's aesthetic value (long arbitrary columns of 8th notes are ugly and awkward to hit). And believe me these form often and are more or less unavoidable when shoe-horning jumps into a big stream; however, if the lead melody is forming the jumps and you choose to follow THAT pitch relevantly--rather than the lower melody--8th jacks that are caused as a result of following the pitch of that melody will feel more natural and accurate every time.
    oh god thanks for pointing this out. really important. play STRAWBERRY SWEETZ in ffr sometime, it's got 8th jack-y streams and it's so draining to play
    Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
    http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
    Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
    http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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    • alexdestructions
      FFR Player
      • Sep 2007
      • 1757

      #77
      Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

      Student please.
      Originally posted by who_cares973
      playing with your cock is anything but easy. its really hard to keep a hard-on because of what you're doing. when i was playing with my penis i had to keep a porn video playing on the side so i could maintain a decent erection throughout the song.
      Originally posted by xferrarix
      actually i go under 1.2 million dollar funding to figure out whos bs in stepmania. i analyze the score using super bs technology along with buying thousand dollar cameras to understand bsing methods further. but thanks you were close!

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      • TC_Halogen
        Rhythm game specialist.
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Feb 2008
        • 19376

        #78
        Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

        You guys should seriously make an #irc channel for something like this, not even joking. Live chat for something like this would probably be really good, as mentioned before.

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        • Patashu
          FFR Simfile Author
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Apr 2006
          • 8609

          #79
          Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

          is there a typical irc server for this kind of thing?
          Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
          http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
          http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
          Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
          http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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          • dag12
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Dec 2004
            • 468

            #80
            Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

            I have a file accepted in FFR; however, I have a lot to learn.
            Interested in being a student.

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            • jimerax
              FFR Simfile Author
              FFR Music Producer
              • Nov 2003
              • 8185

              #81
              Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

              Is this thread for general stepmania theories or individual advices in simfile making?

              well anyways a general jack theory on jumps related to gnr's post.

              When the fast jump section is long, using mini jump-trill patterns in it waters it down. An example could be seen in the ending of PE gymnactics on FFR. On the contrary, if the jump section isn't that long and you want to put some emphasis on them, mini jump-trill patterns would make it weak. Long jack patterns could be avoided unless you want to express strong accent or PR.

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              • N.T.M.
                FFR Player
                • Dec 2007
                • 890

                #82
                Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                Originally posted by moches
                I like this idea but the problem might be that later, the student:tutor ratio will be pretty high.

                Not sure whether I'm in or not. I can't really TEACH stepping, per se, I just listen to the song and do what I can. Also for some reason I can only step simple music. Maybe it's because I'm not even 14 yet. Does age have something to do with how good your files are?

                EDIT: About my age...basically I made this account when I was 8 or 9 and thought that breaking the age rule was cool and hip and ****. Evidence of this can be seen by my first retarded post about the Megaman song. Basically this means I wasn't legally allowed on this forum when I launched up FFR Community Pack. There, I said it. Hopefully that doesn't mean I'm retarded for that.

                I hope Tass doesn't see this and ban me. I'm legal now though.
                Damn you're not even 14? Holy ****!! You're a young fella.
                “Beware the irrational, however seductive. Shun the 'transcendent' and all who invite you to subordinate or annihilate yourself. Distrust compassion; prefer dignity for yourself and others. Don't be afraid to be thought arrogant or selfish... Suspect your own motives, and all excuses. Do not live for others any more than you would expect others to live for you.”

                Christopher Hitchens

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                • moches
                  FFR Player
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 3996

                  #83
                  Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                  Originally posted by N.T.M.
                  Damn you're not even 14? Holy ****!! You're a young fella.
                  14 in a month and two weeks.

                  And doodgk is 13 too, I'm pretty sure.

                  Anyway, back on topic.

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                  • N.T.M.
                    FFR Player
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 890

                    #84
                    Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                    Originally posted by moches
                    14 in a month and two weeks.

                    And doodgk is 13 too, I'm pretty sure.

                    Anyway, back on topic.
                    Wowzer =P.


                    And for something relevant to the OP: I really need input as far as song selection. I need to diversify my genre selection yet I'm kinda still unsure as to where I should look.
                    “Beware the irrational, however seductive. Shun the 'transcendent' and all who invite you to subordinate or annihilate yourself. Distrust compassion; prefer dignity for yourself and others. Don't be afraid to be thought arrogant or selfish... Suspect your own motives, and all excuses. Do not live for others any more than you would expect others to live for you.”

                    Christopher Hitchens

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                    • Patashu
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 8609

                      #85
                      Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                      An obvious, if rather 'cheap' resource, is to download albums and OSTs that you have already seen people make well stepped files of, as steppable music tends to be concentrated together.

                      Another quick source is to look through the music of every video game you've liked. Video game music ain't bad overall.

                      If you want stuff that's basically guaranteed to be steppable, rip a rhythm game's OST.

                      There are also sites out there with independent artists that let you 'trawl' a network of related songs and genres to look for things you like. I can't think of any of them off the top of my head tho
                      Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
                      http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
                      http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
                      Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
                      http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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                      • i love you
                        Live a wonderful life~
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 7315

                        #86
                        Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                        I'm probably one of the worst R1 simfile artist in FFR so i'd like to be a student please.
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                        • who_cares973
                          FFR Player
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 15407

                          #87
                          Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                          someone should find a song and all the students should step it then compare and such

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                          • Patashu
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 8609

                            #88
                            Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                            starship.6? 8)
                            Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
                            http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
                            http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
                            Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
                            http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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                            • who_cares973
                              FFR Player
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 15407

                              #89
                              Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                              good song choice 8)





                              stepping it this weekend
                              Last edited by who_cares973; 04-11-2009, 02:39 AM.

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                              • N.T.M.
                                FFR Player
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 890

                                #90
                                Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                                If people are gonna invest time stepping though they might as well contribute to the database with a few songs instead of numerous versions of the same song which IMO may not prove to be too beneficial for improvement purposes anyways. IDK tho =P.
                                “Beware the irrational, however seductive. Shun the 'transcendent' and all who invite you to subordinate or annihilate yourself. Distrust compassion; prefer dignity for yourself and others. Don't be afraid to be thought arrogant or selfish... Suspect your own motives, and all excuses. Do not live for others any more than you would expect others to live for you.”

                                Christopher Hitchens

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