TWG CXX: Villains United

[TWG Yzma]

Re: TWG CXX: Villains United

I don't understand what you mean but surely you can understand the danger of a hero having the gun.

If you are ever a lynch target, you can get a free kill.

Otherwise, you make it to the end and end the game in a hero win. And based on previous evidence, there's a solid chance that you might be a hero. Removing the gun in the proposed way helps the villains. (Even if we are wrong, we get a free action today, since we would have lynched that person otherwise.)

[TWG Yzma]

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Btw, the end game I'm using ad an example is three villains two heroes -> hero uses gun -> hero's win

[TWG Charles Muntz]

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You are holding onto false pretenses while overlooking the context of this game so you can incriminate me further. Would somebody claim there if he'd want to keep all his chances in keeping the gun until the end? Is it too hard to grasp? Because I did to fetch the herpes attention and it's not to forget the gunsmith has the free will to distribute free pea shooters to everyone and come out exposing those who hold the guns. Basically uncovering the vermin.

I feel like holding onto this thought is ridiculously stubborn especially when not looking at the situation. What it comes down to is "You could have done X when in fact I've done Y".

[TWG Charles Muntz]

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*heroes FUARK

[TWG Yzma]

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I'm not saying you're necessarily a wolf. But there is reason to suspect yoo: most suspiciously the fact that you haven't died yet after claiming.

Imagine if it was me and you thought I was a wolf: wouldn't you want to disarm me in a way that benefits the villains? To prevent the worst case scenario later on?

The question I should be asking is what your problem with this plan is. If you truly are villain, then shooting the gun based in a major bandwagon shouldn't be a problem.

What is your problem with this plan?

[TWG Yzma]

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If you don't like the Auto wagon, speak up. Change the wagon! Holding on to your gun without an explanation is essentially a confession of guilt.

[TWG The Queen]

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i dont think im crazy about having auto or yzma die next

[TWG Charles Muntz]

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What plan? Shooting Auto?
I have no fucking problem with it read again

[TWG Jafar]

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There is no reason to suspect Charles of being a hero for not dying the past night phase.

Cruella proved she was a threat and also proved she was a Villain by killing Hades.

Muntz has been inactive all game and hasn't proven he has a solid foundation on who's who yet.

Hypothetically, I'd think a hero would want to keep Charles around. There's no reason for the wolves to be scared of an infant with a gun.

Infant is more likely to shoot his own parents then a burglar

[TWG Yzma]

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What plan? Shooting Auto?
I have no fucking problem with it read again

oh whoops, sorry didn't mean to put words in your mouth

I'm just trying to demonstrate where I'm coming from, sure you may know that you're a villain, but the rest of us might be worried based on things that have happened that aren't your fault

Discharging the gun soon, from villains' perspective, is best. With a higher villain:hero ratio, the lynch will be more likely to succeed: so a planned discharge will be useful. Not to mention that (from our perspective) if you're a hero, we prevent the worst case scenario.

What are your thoughts now Queen?

[TWG The Queen]

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fine ill show my work

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like people are starting to switch their attention from Hans/Hook to Auto and Gaston. Personally, I'd rather lynch Hans today and use the information from the flip and the night kill to move us forward. Remember people, there are *twenty* players this game, one missed phase (although I'm still fairly confident in this one for a D1 lynch) brings the pool down to 18. There is still plenty of time after today.

a weak push d1 to lynch hans, who we now know was villa. "oh if this lynch is a miss its not that bad!" barffffffff

It seems like we've started the day looking at ~2 people out of 18. While I guess it's whatever if one person does it, why does no one else look elsewhere?

Personally, from their interaction this phase, i'm getting villain/villain leans out of Syndrome/Hades. Both seem to be putting in earnest efforts for leads.

I'm with Yzma, though, I would like to hear from and look at Gaston at the moment. What basis did you have for yesterday's random voting patterns? Would you like to follow up on this post at all? I imagine you're caught up by now; who are your current suspicions? Why didn't you vote at EoD at all?

villa lean for hades in d2, and a vote on gaston, whos lookin pretty villa

Well this situation sucks. Few people are talking (myself included, sorry), and the hours just keep going. I'm personally against letting this phase go to KitB, because I still think Auto is villain. Cruella's last big push for Hades is something I'm willing to get behind; I like it. It's a lynch I feel confident about, and regardless of the result, the flip will give a good amount of information and data for the thread I think; neither of those things are true for me towards Auto.

Hades

"It's a lynch I feel confident about" talk about read progression!!!!

i think when hades flips hero, u look at the late voters there. darla has looked off from the beginning for me and its only gotten worse. darla has been namedropped as suspicious by a handful of people but has not been voted by anyone aside from me all game iirc = possible distancing from teammates.

there are still 4 heroes alive so if ur top pick hasnt been darla im not saying i think ur wrong, but i do think darla is the best kill right now

[TWG Yzma]

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so you think Charles Muntz should shoot Darla, or would you rather save her for the lynch?

I think I'd rather have Auto die by the gun, and then Darla die by lynch. Auto's still suspicious to me, and I think it'd be good to solve this shitty Hades-Hook-Auto love-triangle business. In fact I would rather have that settled during a day phase instead of right before a night phase because I want people to talk about it right after it happens instead of leaving it for discussion 24 hours later.

just my opinion, I would vote for Auto or Darla today

[TWG Syndrome]

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Cant really say darla is hero because of hans flip, because he was fishy up until he died. Gaston was also suspicious so that vote doesnt do anything for me either. She did switch to hades late so theres that. I could maybe see her being a hero. Auto is definately moreso, but if charles shoots him, then we have a lot of time to focus a lynch elsewhere.

[TWG Syndrome]

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Didnt refresh to see your post yzma oops

[TWG Gantu]

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What do you mean 4 heroes alive? 4:1 ratio would mean 16:4 no? And Hades is dead?