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  • XelNya
    [Kaho]
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Sep 2012
    • 3369

    #811
    Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM

    Originally posted by Charu
    Like, Xel could be a wolf because the only good feeling I have for them is purely through emotion and meta, not so much at actual concrete evidence that they'd definitely showcased town game play. Xel is a wildcard as far as I'm concern. What he says never really correlates to what his alignment is.
    Just gonna leave this here

    Originally posted by XelNya
    yeah hot-take pancakes

    my favorite
    I think you need desperately to re-iso me. You'll see I pretty much went after FG almost from the start dude. Especially when you read the later half of my D0.

    Let's go off what I did D0:

    1. I pushed off of T-Force, and Star. Who one is confirmed town, and star is sure up to date, but his case was kinda not great.

    Originally posted by XelNya
    like to be frank this phase has had so much focus on star and she has done a single hard wolf thing

    i think your slot is more than safe for now because no one really buys t-force posts I think at this point

    but at least he tried and it wasn't a defining narrative for late game

    so I can let him off the hook for now to
    Originally posted by XelNya
    NOT DONE A SINGLE HARD WOLF THING*****


    2. I actually pushed FG on D0 and it wasn't a wimpy push.
    Originally posted by XelNya
    to put it bluntly

    the meme is strong sure but it's an excellent way to ride the phase as well

    and that's sorta what makes her a better lynch than you

    you didn't ride the wave, she did

    for the most part, there are some decent questions in there, and if I am wrong I'll actually feel kinda bad about it because I was playing around this read for a while

    as in her being green in my list was a lie

    me memeing on t-force was part of the setup (sorry it's not 7 year revenge, yet.)

    I was trying maybe a bit hard to see if she's try to openly pocket me

    and I am not sure if it worked as I'm pretty biased here we can investigate it tomorrow for sure though if I'm wrong
    Originally posted by XelNya
    she's not being weird

    I think she's crowd surfing
    Originally posted by XelNya
    oh also in the interest of not truly cfding my vote

    fg

    FORMAL STARTS NOW SHADOW STATE YOUR CASE


    I even explained that I lied in pursuit of my FG read

    Originally posted by XelNya
    Ok i like this post but i'm gonna add to it to my own detrimit

    My last post of yesterday has the statment that i lied about a part of my list (fg being green)

    Does thst change anything about your response to sunfan



    How what


    How do you even BALLPARK that I might be scum aligned?

    My weaker D1?

    Where I you know

    if was a wolf

    and only in that mistaken hypothetical mind you

    Insta Lynched her.

    Like, I cannot town any harder here dude, I have made ONE bad move all game.

    I am not a fucking wildcard.

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    • XelNya
      [Kaho]
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Sep 2012
      • 3369

      #812
      Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM

      ps that bad move was a post where I joked FG and T-Force used the rivalry to distance.

      Literally my only misplay all game I think.

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      • the sun fan
        FFR Player
        • Mar 2017
        • 656

        #813
        Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM

        Originally posted by star-crossed
        Ok let me try some questions.

        Now that you know FG is a wolf, does that inform your view of the NK choices at all?

        ...I forgot the other more important one ummm.

        I don't know, can you be more specific about why it being a surprise that FG got hanged implicates Charu? Because in that realm, Charu is also a wolf and FG didn't try to kill him.
        FG is not the kind of player to lead nightkills. She and Subaru is probably the only wolfteam that could've possibly existed in this game (without counting Shadow_God subbing in) that would've lead to FG leading nightkills; she's just not that type of player. Its the partner that would "inform my view of the nightkill choices" and I've already talked about how Subaru on n1 makes a lot of sense from Charu specifically, given his meta

        I think its very clear that Charu, if wolf, picked that he was not busing yesterday. He voted both xelnya and on shado, despite never mentioning xel that I can remember. I think that, at the very least, it should make people want to lynch Charu more than me, because you can at least see me not resisting the FG wagon (and I can promise you as a wolf I would've probably ended up "protesting too much")
        TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

        FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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        • star-crossed
          FFR Player
          • Oct 2017
          • 475

          #814
          Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM

          I cannot paranoia myself into hanging Xel anymore, size 7 text is too townie
          twg quotes here - https://listography.com/starxcrossed

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          • star-crossed
            FFR Player
            • Oct 2017
            • 475

            #815
            Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM

            My one concern with him was just that the game had played out in such a way that he has evaded scrutiny, which makes it harder to have the info to rule him out

            But the way the red flip is giving him self righteousness and esteem, I like very much
            twg quotes here - https://listography.com/starxcrossed

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            • Charu
              Snivy! Dohoho!
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Mar 2006
              • 6207

              #816
              Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM

              That's cool and all Xel, but I was only giving my thoughts on who could be wolf if not thesunfan and really... do you see me going for you? No, I think you've been town, it's just that your actions always tend to have a "idgaf" vibes that I really can't take your actions as an alignment check.

              You constantly hounding FG could very well be part of your plan as a fail safe, distancing and bussing are a thing I think you'd take part of.


              Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
              Charu the red-nosed Snivy
              Had a very shiny nose
              And if you ever saw it
              You could even say it glows

              All of the other Snivies
              Used to laugh and call him names
              They never let poor Charu
              Join in any Snivy games

              (Click the arrow to see the rest)


              Originally posted by Vendetta21
              All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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              • XelNya
                [Kaho]
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Sep 2012
                • 3369

                #817
                Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM

                Originally posted by star-crossed
                But the way the red flip is giving him self righteousness and esteem, I like very much
                i've got a very large ego to be fair

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                • the sun fan
                  FFR Player
                  • Mar 2017
                  • 656

                  #818
                  Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM

                  Originally posted by XelNya
                  i've got a very large ego to be fair
                  but how big is ur beak
                  TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                  FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                  • ShadoWolfe
                    FFR Player
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 171

                    #819
                    Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM

                    So most of FG's progression on Charu and Sunfan happened last phase. These are pretty much all of em. She seemed to highly favor a town Charu and didn't like anything against him, starting with her suspicion on sunfan in response to his Charu read early last phase.


                    Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                    idk man im gonna need you to explain this one
                    Pretty early on in the phase, jumps right into what several people (including sunfan himself) called out as being pretty bad/funky moves by sunfan. If they're partners, she sure was quick to jump on the general game consensus of his bad play

                    Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                    charu seems fine to me rn. sunfan's tinfoiling. i don't like it
                    Unsolicited read sandwiched after dropping slank cover and before following up with a read on me being weird 'cause we I'm normally likeable but we haven't gotten along this game. So seemed like she was dropping spontaneous thoughts when she shared this

                    Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                    sunfan you srs w/ the charu thing
                    This^
                    Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                    unvote nah sunfan saved my ass last phase prolly shouldn't
                    and this ^ both immediately followed her previous claim that sunfan's tinfoiling on Charu in her chain of spontaneous thoughts. looked to me like distancing at the time, but may also be defense of a partner which ties in to her overall theme of defending Charu this phase

                    Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                    ima catch up. it looks like ima have to go charu for self pres, but i don't like that
                    quite a bit later in the phase after an absence. her first thought is to Charu

                    Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                    sunfan or shado this phase for me

                    i really don't like sunfan's charu read

                    i don't like shado tryna pair me and sunfan up
                    Both of these reasons give me pause. I feel like there's a lot here but it can't fully be unwrapped until her partner is known

                    Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                    im not voting xel this phase charu

                    i'll vote w/ you on shado tho if you wanna do that again
                    close to EoD. appeal to Charu

                    Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                    im gonna die ugh

                    wavering on charu is ~a coincidence~

                    sunfan and shado are both confused about each other which is interesting but i don't think indicative of a wolf pair. there's just something not pure about that though

                    star seems to be universally town read

                    the xel read is strange 'cause he hasn't done much imo
                    It struck me as odd then and still strikes me as odd that she says "wavering on charu is a ~coincidence~" that seems either to be the world's biggest red herring or a clear indicator of a partner. I don't know how to read her finding "sunfan and shado confused about each other being interesting although not indicative of a wolf pair because it's not pure" without hitting my head against the wall





                    Originally posted by Hakulyte
                    I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
                    Originally posted by XelNya
                    " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
                    Originally posted by YoshL
                    "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
                    Originally posted by mellon_collie
                    "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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                    • star-crossed
                      FFR Player
                      • Oct 2017
                      • 475

                      #820
                      Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM

                      Ok, I think my actual main ??? about wolf Charu is still the string of setup confusion at start of Day 1
                      twg quotes here - https://listography.com/starxcrossed

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                      • star-crossed
                        FFR Player
                        • Oct 2017
                        • 475

                        #821
                        Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM

                        Originally posted by XelNya
                        i've got a very large ego to be fair
                        You should probably still nightkill me if you are a wolf
                        twg quotes here - https://listography.com/starxcrossed

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                        • ShadoWolfe
                          FFR Player
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 171

                          #822
                          Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM

                          Originally posted by star-crossed
                          Ok, I think my actual main ??? about wolf Charu is still the string of setup confusion at start of Day 1
                          This is my largest basis.

                          I had another reason where I thought his read of me matched what I'd expect from town Charu, but I don't put much weight in that anymore because his reads of me from the start of the game have all referenced in way or another that one game where he said I "assuaged his ego" as wolf DESPITE that game being a long long time ago and us having played several games together since where he decidedly did *not* act traumatized





                          Originally posted by Hakulyte
                          I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
                          Originally posted by XelNya
                          " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
                          Originally posted by YoshL
                          "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
                          Originally posted by mellon_collie
                          "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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                          • the sun fan
                            FFR Player
                            • Mar 2017
                            • 656

                            #823
                            Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM

                            Originally posted by star-crossed
                            You should probably still nightkill me if you are a wolf
                            *camera pan to Xel furiously typing notes*
                            TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                            FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                            • the sun fan
                              FFR Player
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 656

                              #824
                              Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM

                              bruh and bruh-esse its the first time we've seen this setup before
                              everyone's going to be confused about how roles work, wolves included
                              TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                              FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                              • ShadoWolfe
                                FFR Player
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 171

                                #825
                                Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM

                                Originally posted by star-crossed
                                You should probably still nightkill me if you are a wolf
                                He should definitely nightkill me or else he's getting lynched for sure for sure
                                My evidence is in my pressure on you, Xel

                                also I don't wanna be around tomorrow so have mercy please





                                Originally posted by Hakulyte
                                I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
                                Originally posted by XelNya
                                " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
                                Originally posted by YoshL
                                "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
                                Originally posted by mellon_collie
                                "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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