fuck Georgia

[DaBackpack]

Re: fuck Georgia

I understand where you're coming from but I'm skeptical about any attempt at bridging the gap because the core issue is an impasse.

[V-Ormix]

Re: fuck Georgia

fuck abortion

auck fbortion

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[DossarLX ODI]

Re: fuck Georgia

I understand where you're coming from but I'm skeptical about any attempt at bridging the gap because the core issue is an impasse.

Probably my biggest issue with the pro-life movement. I don't see any attempt at stating how the fetus could be removed but still attempt to be salvaged. It respects the woman's choice for what happens with her body while still trying to learn more information in the future if the attempt wasn't successful.

[V-Ormix]

Re: fuck Georgia

age 25

post 25

[V-Ormix]

Re: fuck Georgia

ye the fetus never got a chance :C

[devonin]

Re: fuck Georgia

Probably my biggest issue with the pro-life movement. I don't see any attempt at stating how the fetus could be removed but still attempt to be salvaged. It respects the woman's choice for what happens with her body while still trying to learn more information in the future if the attempt wasn't successful.

"Rather than an abortion, instead have this almost certainly invasive almost certainly dangerous medical procedure instead!" is not, in fact, respecting one's choice for what happens with their body.

-respecting their choice for what happens with their body- sure does though.

[devonin]

Re: fuck Georgia

they don't know what there missing

You don't wash your bedsheets until "they start to turn yellow" I don't think we need to worry about your view of abortion rights being relevant any time soon.

[devonin]

Re: fuck Georgia

Do you think that by spamming, via making useless posts, you are accomplishing anything of use or worth?

[DaBackpack]

Re: fuck Georgia

"Rather than an abortion, instead have this almost certainly invasive almost certainly dangerous medical procedure instead!" is not, in fact, respecting one's choice for what happens with their body.

-respecting their choice for what happens with their body- sure does though.

I imagined something like this would be voluntary

but still doesn't address the underlying problem

[devonin]

Re: fuck Georgia

The problem is "People legislating what other people can do with their own bodies"

If they'd just -stop doing that- there'd be nothing to address.

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: fuck Georgia

"Rather than an abortion, instead have this almost certainly invasive almost certainly dangerous medical procedure instead!" is not, in fact, respecting one's choice for what happens with their body.

-respecting their choice for what happens with their body- sure does though.

DaBackpack already posted what I thought was implied, but yes -- this would be a voluntary decision with the woman knowing what the possible risks are. It's the same idea that just because a woman has the choice to have an abortion, it doesn't mean she has to.

According to the CDC, 91.1% of abortions they recorded in 2015 were performed at less than 13 weeks into the pregnancy. The CDC also defines abortion as the following:

"For the purpose of surveillance, a legal induced abortion is defined as an intervention performed by a licensed clinician (e.g., a physician, nurse-midwife, nurse practitioner, or physician assistant) that is intended to terminate an ongoing pregnancy.

Most states and reporting areas that collect abortion data now report if an abortion was medical or surgical. Medical abortions are legal procedures that use medications instead of surgery."

In other words, the intent is to terminate the pregnancy. That does not necessarily mean death of the fetus. You can transfer the fetus to an artificial incubator and that's still terminating the state of the woman's pregnancy. This, of course, is also if said woman agrees to it.

Fetal tissue is super fragile at that time too so I can see why it would be very hard, if not impossible, to actually salvage it. And at 13 weeks or less, trying shouldn't be as invasive as in the second trimester.

The problem is "People legislating what other people can do with their own bodies"

If they'd just -stop doing that- there'd be nothing to address.

Agreed that the topic is best addressed outside of the courtroom.

I imagined something like this would be voluntary

but still doesn't address the underlying problem

What is the underlying problem you are referring to?

[V-Ormix]

Re: fuck Georgia

actually u kno i dont think georgia is all that bad altho i havent been there accept passing through to get to alabama

[DaBackpack]

Re: fuck Georgia

I'm of the opinion that all the reasoning about "the fetus is alive"/other pro-life rhetoric is used post-hoc to justify a gut reaction or some indoctrination

the underlying problem I see is that abortion is only really a problem to conservatives because of religious indoctrination and/or a desire to subjugate women

everything else is performative

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: fuck Georgia

Going back to the bill though, prosecuting miscarriages while also not addressing how to lower the number of miscarriages is a gigantic contradiction. The bill is ridiculous, as if the legislative efforts on this topic weren't already bad enough.

the underlying problem I see is that abortion is only really a problem to conservatives because of religious indoctrination and/or a desire to subjugate women

There are secular people I have seen that identify as pro-life and their main issue is that it's the death of a person. It's one of the reasons I mentioned how abortion is terminating a state of pregnancy, although how it's actually performed is another topic. Currently there are medical and surgical abortions that end up in the death of the fetus.

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: fuck Georgia

You don't wash your bedsheets until "they start to turn yellow" I don't think we need to worry about your view of abortion rights being relevant any time soon.

Wow. Congratulations. This must be one of the most complete and utter murder by words I've seen in my history on the internet.