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  • Vuture
    FFR Player
    • Oct 2008
    • 75

    #481
    Re: World of Warcraft

    Originally posted by Gun92
    So no advice then?
    I'll get to you in a second, first I wanna touch on this tanking issue.

    I'd have to say, I think Prot Wars/Pally's make the best tanks. While DKs pull tons of aggro if speced correctly, I'm a hunter my pet rhino has pulled aggro of DKs with growl off. Granted, that's a crappy DK if that happens, but I've never had that issue with a war or pally. In addition, DKs really aren't meant to be a tanking class. More of a DPS IMO. I have even had DKs ask to duel just my Rhino alone (mind you I'm lvl 72 with a 71 Rhino) and that pet alone was gotten lvl 75/76 DKs down to 2k health before he died.

    Now about you Gun92, I recommend going Shadow if you do alot of soloing. This way you aren't healing 100 times a fight instead of just DoTing the **** out of mobs. I've seen shadow priests obliterate mobs in about 10 seconds without a single scratch. Now once you hit around 65 or above, I recommend respeccing Holy, as those are in low supply but high demand at that level. If you plan to PvP, I'd still go Shadow until lvl 60 then respec Discipline.

    Question: What is the meaning of life?
    Answer: When life give you lemons, SQUIRT THEM IN THE EYES OF THOSE WHO ASK THAT QUESTION!

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    • Solid Dreams
      FFR Player
      • Apr 2008
      • 298

      #482
      Re: World of Warcraft

      Go Discipline. You can heal but you can also keep soloing for long amounts of time without running out of mana.

      And you can say that, Devo, but everyone else is agreeing that warriors and paladins are slowly being phazed out.

      Doesn't stop me from wanting a paladin tank, I think they're awesome. But it's hard getting that view across when everybody else wants a DK or a druid to tank.

      Also, yeah, DKs are meant to be a tank. Blizz devs are even talking about it, half of the changes for them have been for tanking.

      You shouldn't talk down to people you don't know anything about, acting like you know more and then try to show them up in the forum. That's how you get absolutely no where.

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      • Vuture
        FFR Player
        • Oct 2008
        • 75

        #483
        Re: World of Warcraft

        I guess if mana is that important to you go Discipline. But honestly, you'll lvl faster as shadow. However, if you want to do low level instances, you won't be an efficient healer.

        Question: What is the meaning of life?
        Answer: When life give you lemons, SQUIRT THEM IN THE EYES OF THOSE WHO ASK THAT QUESTION!

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        • Gun92
          The Paragon of Perfection
          • Aug 2006
          • 4826

          #484
          Re: World of Warcraft

          Cool cool, thanks much All I pretty much do right now is SW Sheild, then SW Pain, mind blast then wand. Guess at low levels thats about as much as you can do. Only at lvl 14 right now.

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          • Izzy
            Snek
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Jan 2003
            • 9195

            #485
            Re: World of Warcraft

            I always dread having a DK tank. So horrible. My dps with my crapy gear sucks and they still cant hold aggro.

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            • tsugomaru
              FFR Player
              • Aug 2004
              • 3962

              #486
              Re: World of Warcraft

              I play a priest, so I will try to help you out, although I'm a little out of date.

              Level as Shadow.

              The very first few talents help you out with mana regen and they decrease down time. Out of all the three talent trees, it does the most damage from 1-80. You'll be able to kill things quicker and with less down time, meaning you will level faster. As far as dungeons go, as long as you don't run any level 70 heroics, you shouldn't need to be holy to heal. I healed all my dungeon runs from 1-80 as shadow. The 1-60 dungeons are a joke. In fact, I was in Shadowform in most of the 1-60 dungeons, switching out only to carry out my healing duties every now and then. The 60-80 dungeons require a lot more focus. You won't be able to switch in and out of shadowform to dps/heal, but it's still not difficult to heal without speccing into the disc or holy tree.

              ~Tsugomaru
              Originally posted by Hiluluk
              WHEN do you think people die...?
              When their heart is pierced by a bullet from a pistol...? No.
              When they succumb to an incurable disease...? No.
              When they drink soup made with a poisonous mushroom...? NO!!!
              IT'S WHEN A PERSON IS FORGOTTEN...!!!

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              • fido123
                FFR Player
                • Sep 2005
                • 4245

                #487
                Re: World of Warcraft

                Originally posted by Izzy
                I always dread having a DK tank. So horrible. My dps with my crapy gear sucks and they still cant hold aggro.
                They must be really ****ty tanks then cause I'm better geared then the one in my guild and he holds aggro fine.

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                • Izzy
                  Snek
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 9195

                  #488
                  Re: World of Warcraft

                  I guess i have just been unlucky. I would assume half of the people who choose to play death knights cant play the game at all.

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                  • fido123
                    FFR Player
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 4245

                    #489
                    Re: World of Warcraft

                    Originally posted by Izzy
                    I guess i have just been unlucky. I would assume half of the people who choose to play death knights cant play the game at all.
                    They're basically the new huntards.

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                    • Sullyman2007
                      FFR Player
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 1663

                      #490
                      Re: World of Warcraft

                      I absolutely hate instancing with DK tanks. I have to do a lot of pugging so I can catch up with my guild, and I have never had a good experience with a Death Knight tanking. Even if they are frost, they can't hold aggro for **** then I get blamed for pulling. It's even worse when you're in a group with two or even three of them.

                      Touching on the how to level a priest issue... I leveled my priest Holy. It took a lot longer, but I learned a lot really fast, especially when it came to instancing and raiding.

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                      • fido123
                        FFR Player
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 4245

                        #491
                        Re: World of Warcraft

                        Originally posted by Sullyman2007
                        I absolutely hate instancing with DK tanks. I have to do a lot of pugging so I can catch up with my guild, and I have never had a good experience with a Death Knight tanking. Even if they are frost, they can't hold aggro for **** then I get blamed for pulling. It's even worse when you're in a group with two or even three of them.
                        Again, the DK tank in my guild is in heroic gear...with like 2 peices of Naxx gear and subbed in for a 25 man Naxx raid with people pulling up 3-4K DPS, and apparently he did perfectly fine aggro wise. I think it's just the fact half the people who play deathknights are like "OMG I AM LEIK TEH KNITE OF DEATH AND STARTING CAMPAIGN IZ SO KEWL!!!!!11"

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                        • Vuture
                          FFR Player
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 75

                          #492
                          Re: World of Warcraft

                          Originally posted by fido123
                          Again, the DK tank in my guild is in heroic gear...with like 2 peices of Naxx gear and subbed in for a 25 man Naxx raid with people pulling up 3-4K DPS, and apparently he did perfectly fine aggro wise. I think it's just the fact half the people who play deathknights are like "OMG I AM LEIK TEH KNITE OF DEATH AND STARTING CAMPAIGN IZ SO KEWL!!!!!11"
                          Lol, love the quote. A recent statistic was released saying that 25% of all active characters were DKs shortly after their release. That's crazy. But ya, when I pug, I put in the LFG message "No DKs please". I just don't take the risk anymore. I've had LK for a couple weeks now and I haven't started one yet. Not just because I'm not really into melee classes (Besides Prot Wars. Love them for some reason), but also because they're just way to OP'd IMO.

                          Question: What is the meaning of life?
                          Answer: When life give you lemons, SQUIRT THEM IN THE EYES OF THOSE WHO ASK THAT QUESTION!

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                          • Squeek
                            let it snow~
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 14444

                            #493
                            Re: World of Warcraft

                            I started one because I wanted an alt for when I had nothing to do on my main and didn't want to level from the beginning with anything since I have 3x exp from 1-60 when I party with my friend.

                            They're pretty fun, actually. I like not having to worry about mana, ever. And since this is my first character in plate, it's fun just standing there with 10 guys on you, laughing as you blow them all up.

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                            • Izzy
                              Snek
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 9195

                              #494
                              Re: World of Warcraft

                              The only reason id consider leveling another Death Knight is for gold.

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                              • tsugomaru
                                FFR Player
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 3962

                                #495
                                Re: World of Warcraft

                                Compared to the other classes, the Death Knight is extremely new. People are still trying to figure out the best ways to play the class so of course some of them are going to suck and some of them are going to be good. People are still experimenting with different builds and rotations. Not only that, they've had less time to play the character because they started at 55. You can't expect every single DK to be good. I've partied with both good and bad DKs before, but I don't see the majority of them being bad. It seems to be a half and half mix.

                                ~Tsugomaru
                                Originally posted by Hiluluk
                                WHEN do you think people die...?
                                When their heart is pierced by a bullet from a pistol...? No.
                                When they succumb to an incurable disease...? No.
                                When they drink soup made with a poisonous mushroom...? NO!!!
                                IT'S WHEN A PERSON IS FORGOTTEN...!!!

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