Social Media Drama

[DaBackpack]

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Social media drama is stupid, but entertaining. Except when it's not drama.

Take idubbbztv making fun of leafy. It's not drama it's a comedy video parodying leafy. But yet it was called "exposing" by some. It's fuckin' dumb.

The only reason this stuff is called "drama" is so people like Keemstar can describe their ass content as a "job."

The taking-sides thing is stupid too. That iDubbbz video is a list of arguments as to why Leafy's content is shitty. Either you agree with what he says or you don't. You can agree with iDubbbz and still like Leafy's content. For some fucking reason there's this clout-chasing mentality where if somebody gets """exposed""" you have to make a video about it and position yourself either "for" or "against" that person. It's cancer.

I'm like 80% sure this social behavior is manufactured by Keemstar in some way because it directly affects his bottom line if YouTubers take sides--- it's more stupid bullshit he can talk about.

EDIT: Did I mention I fucking hate Keemstar? For a while his ineptitude, psychopathy, and inflated ego were AT LEAST entertaining... now that river is dried up and he's just totally worthless.

Worse than worthless, honestly: he's a scumsucking bottom-feeder with the intelligence of a snapped power line. Most "drama" channels are just as bad, too.

[XelNya]

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The only reason this stuff is called "drama" is so people like Keemstar can describe their ass content as a "job."

The taking-sides thing is stupid too. That iDubbbz video is a list of arguments as to why Leafy's content is shitty. Either you agree with what he says or you don't. You can agree with iDubbbz and still like Leafy's content. For some fucking reason there's this clout-chasing mentality where if somebody gets """exposed""" you have to make a video about it and position yourself either "for" or "against" that person. It's cancer.

I'm like 80% sure this social behavior is manufactured by Keemstar in some way because it directly affects his bottom line if YouTubers take sides--- it's more stupid bullshit he can talk about.

EDIT: Did I mention I fucking hate Keemstar? For a while his ineptitude, psychopathy, and inflated ego were AT LEAST entertaining... now that river is dried up and he's just totally worthless.

Worse than worthless, honestly: he's a scumsucking bottom-feeder with the intelligence of a snapped power line. Most "drama" channels are just as bad, too.

It is drama, like it or not, this type of thing exists in any social circle, including your own. I think maybe the attachment to the term might be a bit gross.

I don't think modern commentary is that way, but it certainly was when I made that post. Modern YouTube commentary based on what I tend to watch isn't quite as bad like that. Say the retrospectives on say Zaptie getting (falsely) canceled ect. Most of the more modern stuff aims to be like a journalistic article without maybe the same level of standards.

As for the Keem thing... There's so much to delve into there that it'd take it's own thread.

But to cut it short - I don't think you could call the man an idiot, or even inept, he knows exactly what he's doing. I do also have to respect his business approach, because it obviously fucking works, like it or not.

He's a fucking scum-bag, and shit person though. I won't argue that at all.

My views on this thread originally have shifted a lot, considering I listen to a lot of the "drama / commentary" community a lot while I work. I don't agree with a lot of the politics of who I watch, and I think a few of them get a bit close to the sun too often.

But also to put job in air quotes is a bit ass. Content creation is a job and bad or good, it's paying them. It could be qualified as a job.

I dunno I have a lot of thoughts about it, but I don't wanna derail.

[I like it]

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yall really just picked up and continued a 4 year old debate like it was nothin

[XelNya]

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yall really just picked up and continued a 4 year old debate like it was nothin

wouldn't call it a debate tho

[DaBackpack]

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It is drama, like it or not, this type of thing exists in any social circle, including your own. I think maybe the attachment to the term might be a bit gross.

I don't think modern commentary is that way, but it certainly was when I made that post. Modern YouTube commentary based on what I tend to watch isn't quite as bad like that. Say the retrospectives on say Zaptie getting (falsely) canceled ect. Most of the more modern stuff aims to be like a journalistic article without maybe the same level of standards.

As for the Keem thing... There's so much to delve into there that it'd take it's own thread.

But to cut it short - I don't think you could call the man an idiot, or even inept, he knows exactly what he's doing. I do also have to respect his business approach, because it obviously fucking works, like it or not.

He's a fucking scum-bag, and shit person though. I won't argue that at all.

My views on this thread originally have shifted a lot, considering I listen to a lot of the "drama / commentary" community a lot while I work. I don't agree with a lot of the politics of who I watch, and I think a few of them get a bit close to the sun too often.

But also to put job in air quotes is a bit ass. Content creation is a job and bad or good, it's paying them. It could be qualified as a job.

I dunno I have a lot of thoughts about it, but I don't wanna derail.

It's not that content creation isn't a job that deserves to be paid for, it's that Keemstar specifically labels his channel as a "news source" but if you actually try to apply journalistic standards to his output he falls consistently short. It's like the Daily Wire: apparently you can write articles about whatever you feel like without having to worry about being held to any kind of standard of discipline or integrity. If he earnestly views his channel as "informational" (I would guess he actually doesn't) he deserves as much respect as the Daily Enquirer. A similar comparison arises if you evaluate based on entertainment value, which is the ONLY thing going for him.

Now that I think about it, DramaAlert is literally just a tabloid for YouTube. That probably sums up my distaste for it.

I don't hate the commentary community, I don't think I insinuated otherwise. Their production values and general content quality have increased since the (old) Leafy days. I follow a bunch of these guys-- Pyro, Big Joel, to name a few. My problem was SPECIFICALLY with this notion of "drama" which literally exists for its own sake.

When Leafy came back and started making videos I almost started to develop respect for him. I kinda liked the attitude where he just didn't give a fuck and did whatever he wanted. But with the Pokimane thing, Leafy's back in the trash. It was a good run (2 months)

[Walrusizer]

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i genuinely do not understand how anybody can watch a leafy video or read a keemstar tweet and think 'wow, this dude has more than 7 brain cells and is making a valid point'

these people are the true simps

[XelNya]

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i genuinely do not understand how anybody can watch a leafy video or read a keemstar tweet and think 'wow, this dude has more than 7 brain cells and is making a valid point'

these people are the true simps

Pop music is a thing.

[XelNya]

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It's not that content creation isn't a job that deserves to be paid for, it's that Keemstar specifically labels his channel as a "news source" but if you actually try to apply journalistic standards to his output he falls consistently short. It's like the Daily Wire: apparently you can write articles about whatever you feel like without having to worry about being held to any kind of standard of discipline or integrity. If he earnestly views his channel as "informational" (I would guess he actually doesn't) he deserves as much respect as the Daily Enquirer. A similar comparison arises if you evaluate based on entertainment value, which is the ONLY thing going for him.

Now that I think about it, DramaAlert is literally just a tabloid for YouTube. That probably sums up my distaste for it.

That last sentence is why he can say he's a news source. Just not like, one for you know, anything that should actually matter.

It's a stretch of the term really. But he's not wrong.

I don't hate the commentary community, I don't think I insinuated otherwise. Their production values and general content quality have increased since the (old) Leafy days. I follow a bunch of these guys-- Pyro, Big Joel, to name a few. My problem was SPECIFICALLY with this notion of "drama" which literally exists for its own sake.

When Leafy came back and started making videos I almost started to develop respect for him. I kinda liked the attitude where he just didn't give a fuck and did whatever he wanted. But with the Pokimane thing, Leafy's back in the trash. It was a good run (2 months)

Oh you didn't insinuate you hated commentary, I worded it that way for other people. Totally a mess up on my end if it comes off that way.

Though, Leafy's first Pokimane video is good, the other two are pretty shit. I don't agree with all of it, but I thought it was pretty good as far as he goes. (I'd have to go rewatch it to articulate it, but there's totally critique for it I'd have.)

Can we agree though that the worst channel in commentary though is imalexxx or however you spell it. Fuck that guy.

[choof]

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yall really just picked up and continued a 4 year old debate like it was nothin

rofl

Pop music is a thing.

glad to see you're still a pretentious idiot when it comes to art

[loftyb]

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Pop music is a thing.

ok

[mellonxcollie]

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Pop music is a thing.

depending on the artist, pop music is made by some of the most brilliant artists and producers in the world but o fucking k lmao

[radioamor]

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Pop music is a thing.

I am really in awe that you have taken such a hackneyed, boring stance and have assumed it in the most obnoxiously self-congratulatory way imaginable.

[the sun fan]

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kill all humans tbh
if we don't like it after we do it, lets just undo it
sound good?

[Funnygurl555]

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y'all don't gotta personally attack xel for disliking a genre of music that ain't nice

[choof]

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ya because he didn't totally imply that people who listen to pop music are idiots