World of Warcraft

[tsugomaru]

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I sort of wish my guild would try Sarth 1 Drake up. I definitely think we have the heals, tanks, and dps for it, but no one is willing to coordinate it. Today, we took down Sarth 1 Drake and even the guy who's never been there before didn't get hit by the fire wave. We had 3 tanks there pretending to be dps as well.

~Tsugomaru

[Sir Psycho]

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Are you sure you're looking at the caster gloves and not the healer gloves?

[Solid Dreams]

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most mail gloves have mp5 on em.

[Kagome]

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The t7 elemental gloves have mp5 but the rest of the set doesn't.

[Squeek]

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Like I said, it's mainly the gloves, but if you look at a majority of the +SP Mail gear from Naxx, about 80% of it has MP5.

I made a list just so I'd know what to roll on during bosses, so here's what I'm talking about.

Naxx -10 drops

construct:

Patchwerk - dagger, shoulder (mp5), cape (mp5)
Grobbulus - neck, mace (mp5)
gluth - mace (mp5), ring (mp5), neck (mp5), waist (mp5), back (mp5)
thaddius - leg token

arachnid:

anub - feet (mp5), ring (mp5)
grand - legs (mp5)
maexx- neck (mp5), shield (need), trinket (need)

military:

instruct - wrist (mp5)
gothik - chest (mp5), neck
4 - chest token

plague:

noth - hands, ring
heigan - waist (mp5), ring (spr)
loath - shoulder token

boss:

sapphr - back, helm, ring (mp5)
kel - back (mp5), dagger (spr), mace, helm token

[Sir Psycho]

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Well, don't elemental shamans have **** for mana regain with spells? I know every other caster class has something to regen mana, so maybe this upped mp5 on everything is the fight back for it?

[Squeek]

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Our skills are laughably cheap. Lightning bolt doesn't even cost 400 mana.

I can easily do a timed CoS or non-stop VH without drinking, ever.

Thunderstorm, while terrible during group combat since it pushes enemies away, is effective for downtime as it regens 8% of my mana, which is about 1,500 for me. I can only use it every 45 seconds, but it's irrelevant. And even with this, I don't ever have to use it, because I have yet another skill that makes that super-cheap Lightning Bolt even cheaper. Every time I crit (note: pretty damn often), Clearcasting enables (also enabling more Crit) and that makes the next two spells 40% cheaper. I start every fight with Lava Burst after Flame Shock, which is a guaranteed crit, so right away I'm making each successive Lightning Bolt only cost ~160 mana. Water Shield has a passive 100mp5 and every time I take a hit I regen 500 mana.

It's been a long, long time since I ended a non-boss fight without 90-100% mana. During a quick Nexus run I just did, I even ended every boss fight with 100% mana.

So to answer your question, no, I do not need mp5 as Elemental.

ps - outdpsed another mage in that run. She was trying to be cute to surpass me by blowing her summoned cooldowns right off the bat but it soon became clear she wasn't going to beat my 2,700dps, even with those cooldowns. And I don't have anything that boosts just my own damage like she does. All I have is something that improves crit chance and lowers mana cost by 20%. I've been stacking Haste for a while now since I realized I have no use for crit chance with a guaranteed-crit skill (though I do still have crit since EleSham gear is SP/Haste/Crit). Therefore, I rarely ever use this skill. I have nothing else that could potentially boost damage for a short period of time on myself.

I have the feeling we're going to get a nerf sooner or later.

[Momoko_Katsura]

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My 25 man UI
xD

[rade0110]

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I have a cancelled account with an 80 mage on it. But before it was cancelled 2700 dps was not that hard to achieve if you are ffb spec and do the proper spell rotation. Blowing cds right away is the best way to go for mages because most of the major dps boosts only have a 1.5-2 min cd. During most boss fights that gives them plenty of time to come back before heroism is popped in most cases. Plus crit focus is way more important then haste in a build that is based on rng. So if your mage is poorly stacked for crit, even with all the raid buffs they will have a lower dps.

And if your mage is frost spec for raiding they are missing out on a good 800 dps easily. I had pretty good haste set (I think it was up around 460 haste 1300sp?) and ran frost. It doesn't compare to a proper ffb set and ffb rotation.

*Edit

The last time I played was in early January btw. So I'm not sure if any patches have come out since then to nerf any performance mages had.

[tsugomaru]

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At least she was trying to do well in terms of DPS. I've seen mages who thought it would be okay to chill around 800 dps on fights that are DPS races.

~Tsugomaru

[rade0110]

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Oh I'm not saying she wasn't trying, she might just be ill informed on a proper raid spec, spell rotation, or simply just lack in gear. Plus I was more or less saying that she was actually doing a good thing by popping her cds right away; assuming that she hit invis right after ther MI wore off.

And if I ever saw a mage coasting at 800 dps at 80 content even without it being a dps race, I'd drop the bitch for someone who actually used their brain and helped the group/raid. I could spam scorch and do more then 800 dps.

[Solid Dreams]

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I had a rogue back when we were 70 who wouldn't roll on the king's defender (despite it being one of the best off handers for rogues) because "tanks would need it" despite everyone having it.

She also wouldn't get past 300-350 dps, I was out dpsing her as a tank.

now she does 800s, and in another guild that's ranked higher than us. ;_;

[Vuture]

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I need to start raiding more. I just got LK and lvled my hunter to lvl 72. I'm totally in love with Northerend. Although I think it replaces your gear way too fast. I had some t3 gear and a Gyro Balanced Korium Destroyer Gun (engineering) that took me 3 months to get. It's all be replaced by greens >.>. Oh and I wanted to show ya my UI

I like this layout alot better than my old one:

Those buttons with the immolation trap graphic, aspect of the viper graphic, etc opened up into button menus with my traps, aspects, pet menu, and tacking menu. But I was very cluttered in the heat of battle as the tracking bar and aspect bar streched accross half the screen. (The reason I'm dancing is because this picture was taken right after I hit lvl 70 )

[Kagome]

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My average DPS is around 3800-4000.

I'm a mage.

[Sir Psycho]

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My DPS in 25mans as fury is about 3.8k on your average boss, 4.2k on Patches. Tanking I do about 1.8k