TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

[FoJaR]

Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

sorry for the delay, wasnt feeling well.

VOTECOUNT: Day 1 (ends Monday 8 PM EST)

freaky (4): yoman, jrodd, V, AC1
yoman (2): zoshi, freaky
Manti (2): TPS, jayde
zoshi (1): dance
viccica (1): James
James (1): viccica
jayde (1): cedo
dance (1): Manti

3 votes to lynch

[freakysnots]

Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

jayde. Here, I'll give you a reason to vote for me. Doesn't matter. Worth trading myself to getting you and AC1 out of the game. You guys can go flip me.

[Zoshi]

Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

You guys have to much to say day 1. I don't understand how you can say so much and have so much solid info.

You also talk to much when I sleep, no more double posting or triple posting or quadriple posting or anything more than 1 post plleeeeease.


I'm going to read this thread again later. I'll hopefully have something decent to say.

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

Hey Manti how would you expect freaky to play if he were a wolf?

Also the support argument is moot here. He is so all over the place and there has been pushes and rationalizations of his behavior. This is not similar to the zoshi situation.

That post of cedolads you pointed out wasn't really breadcrumbing. "If I were a wolf I would" is a pretty common and strong tell with new wolves. Alain still does this as a wolf when he is being lazy. He responded to it in a way that was not outside what you expect.

Oh yeah and freaky lied while trying to turn cedolads reveal against me and then immediately after that stated he was convinced he WASN'T the vigilante.

I understand stream of conciousness posting and you are using that in his defense but the stream is pretty bad.

Cedolad and freaky are easily the strongest lynch candidates still. Since cedolad has put himself in a situation where we can't lynch him, we should lynch freaky.

You need to contribute more analysis of danceguy. Can't wrap my head around your perspective.

[James May]

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Alright, time to look through this.

come on man. ask for a replacement if you aren't able to play, or find time to play. don't be greedy.

your post tomorrow better be goddamn good. on the level with what crazyjayde did.

Sorry about that, didn't realize that made me look greedy @_@

nah I obviously can't defend myself when something gets thrown my way without making an ass of myself. I try to make smarter plays rather than just the usual throw shit into a thread and hope for the best, and I end up in a bigger hole. Not gonna stress myself trying to defend myself over my own stupidity. Have other things to worry about.

and fyi I did have a strategy.

Not sure what to make of you yet. I mean I haven't given the thread a full read aside from skimming through the important pages but it looks like that you're either vigi or SK. Like I said, NOT sure until I give it a full read and a larger analysis of you. But there's just something about this post that bugs me...like I said, I'll have to reread through this entire thread to know for sure.

You are arguing that my reason for lynching inactive/retarded players is invalid, the posts we should use vigi on zoshi??? wtf?

It is invalid. I mean seriously, why would that be logical at any point in time? It's hard to grasp on the logic that you're trying to put on is just...qpeiowopqei. I understand where you are coming from with this but I just don't see any necessity to lynch them. I mean there is a slight moment when they might be doing UTR play, and the fact that you are insistent on lynching either me, vic, or zoshi (as part of that hub of "inactive/retarded players"). BUT, last game you were insistent on lynching Zoshi, which happened to be our guard and you only judged on the aspect of the posts. There's more to judge the alignment of a player than just how they post. Yeah the way they post can give off fine details on which alignment they are in but you have to pay attention to the finer details man.

Keeping my eye on your posts. You're giving me headaches just trying to comprehend the fallacies in your reasoning. If you want to, I'll be glad to quote up on all of the important posts that you made and dissect all of them to show that your reasoning is in shambles.

You guys have to much to say day 1. I don't understand how you can say so much and have so much solid info.

You also talk to much when I sleep, no more double posting or triple posting or quadriple posting or anything more than 1 post plleeeeease.


I'm going to read this thread again later. I'll hopefully have something decent to say.

itt: timezones suck
In all seriousness, you're random. Hard to pick out what you are. Starting from the ~*~*~*~*~DrAmAtIc EnTrAnCe~*~*~*~*~ post that you did to now. Come on man, you are breaking me.

Other stuff
(Just a few minor analysis on other players, not all the players are lumped in this post. Will give full analysis of them when I have a chance tonight.)

Viccica: It seems that she's innactive since she hasn't answered my question on why she want to resume where we left off when I was about to be insta'd that game.

danceguy: hmm...claiming that v and freaky aren't red? Do explain. I'm curious.

AC1: Leaning towards villager. First game playing with him so I really can't tell his playstyle and whatnot

jayde: leaning towards villager, his analysis posts are clear and understandable to read. Though the choice to guard zoshi for Night 1? Not sure

Manti: Leaning towards villager. I wouldn't be surprised if he was a blue again.

I know this post looks a bit rushed but I'll go thoroughly through everyone either within the hour or tonight (tonight more likely since I have stuff to do today and this is the only time when I have to get on here in the morning...)

~James

[freakysnots]

Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

V, I don't want you to have the idea that I made any type of mistake when I called you out, but your head is too far up your ass for you to understand this. I'm going to say this one last time, I never believed in cedo's vigi claim. In the last game we played together, you immediately called me out start of Day 2 for a very stupid reason. This, plus you have never faced any aggression in the thread and also seeing how you refuse to follow any type of logic as of right now, there should be when you start saying you are absolutely sure someone is wolf.

Since there is no hope into talking any sense into someone with his head up his ass, I need detailed responses from AC1 and Jrodd on why I should be lynched. If they don't post this, I have no further contributions.

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

I'm not absolutely sure, but by your own strategy you are the perfect lynch candidate. You are a weak player, doing suspicious shit, who made some wolfy fuckin plays, that I literally cannot tell if you are human or wolf.

Besides that you are a huge waste of time and in the vacuum we are in on day one you are looking incredibly appealing as a lynch target. I assume full responsibility for your card flip.

That fact that you cannot, even for a second, understand my perspective means you are either a wolf or a pathological liar. My perspective is pretty clear. I've said it three or four times. Just like I explained what I found wolfy about cedolad three or four times.

[dAnceguy117]

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I don't think freaky and V are both red

because

they have talked to each other directly. A lot. Like, enough to fill up 5 pages. Their arguments don't seem forced. Also, staging an argument during this first phase would be tough, considering wolves can't talk to each other outside of the thread. Also, V has pushed for a freaky lynch.

Red/red would be highly, highly unlikely.

You guys have to much to say day 1. I don't understand how you can say so much and have so much solid info.

You also talk to much when I sleep, no more double posting or triple posting or quadriple posting or anything more than 1 post plleeeeease.


I'm going to read this thread again later. I'll hopefully have something decent to say.

weak.

[freakysnots]

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v, wtf are you even talking about. this was also why i said you had no good reason to be lynching cedo. how about you gain an outside perspective and stop feeling confident that two people backed up your arrogance without any reason. i didn't give a shit about day 1 last game, and i don't give a shit about day 1 this game. i just wanted to piss you off and im happy i did it.

[freakysnots]

Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

V. I understand your perspective perfectly. You are trying to make a point in the thread that whoever votes for you sustains so much pressure from this one example that no one would do it again.

Notice you you made a HUGE DEAL out of something I've dropped ever since we started this? The only reason why this has not been dropped yet is AC1 and Jrodd's bandwagon, and now jayde passively supporting this. Ever wonder why you are getting so much support for no reason?

I suggest lynching ac1 and jayde after I get flipped and leave V alone and just assume he is a confused person being taken advantage of.

[freakysnots]

Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

There is nothing for me to argue against if there is no logic for the lynch. I already explained why I voted you, and under those circumstances why I posted fairly quickly.

I have also explained why I worded it in a way such that you thought I completely ignored all of your posts and lied.

Other than this and my play style and lack of giving a shit for day 1, you have nothing.

[FoJaR]

Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

VOTECOUNT: Day 1 (ends Monday 8

PM EST)

freaky (4): yoman, jrodd, V, AC1
jayde (2): cedo, freaky
Manti (2): TPS, jayde
yoman (1): zoshi
zoshi (1): dance
viccica (1): James
James (1): viccica
dance (1): Manti

3 votes to lynch

[FoJaR]

Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

and ROFL at that james may gif, i love love love that show. seen every episode.

[Crazyjayde]

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Ok. You're really not my priority right now. I said earlier you might be villager, and if you are, you are really just fucking with the wrong guy for no reason. I hope at least that you'll give me a solid reason for my vote.

This is a really strong reaction from someone who has been pretty calm under the spotlight. May you be town or not, this is an odd reactionary defense.

Do you listen to yourself talk or pay attention to what is going on in the thread? I kept my composure long enough. Jrodd doing that shit then logging really pissed me off. Especially what he posted.

Are you reading your posts? I think I've showed well enough how I came to analyze you, and how pretty much EVERYONE gave a bit of insight on you. Things like "Ever wonder why you are getting so much support for no reason? " is pretty invalid. Me because I did it in a passive way? Lol, everyone else apart from V, AC1 and Jrodd did it in a passive way.

If someone is in the spotlight and is being pressured by a few people, why would I be here and not give a fuck? Do you even read your posts? That long ass defense for my post you just did (#379) was pretty weird just for the fact of its length in contrast to your past posts and the fact that you are addressing a player that is merely giving input on your case. You're merely pushing for me because I acknowledged what could have gone through in your head and decided not to vote. Should I have voted anyway, I'm sure you would have voted for me for being part of the bandwagon. (see what you do with AC1). This is a clear revenge vote. By the way, that remark I've said about your intention on not going to react to Jrodd was merely because I hate people who do not want to give an effort in the game. That's superfluous bullshit that can link us to suspicions on you. Just look at what you said a few posts back from this post: "Since there is no hope into talking any sense into someone with his head up his ass, I need detailed responses from AC1 and Jrodd on why I should be lynched. If they don't post this, I have no further contributions".

And yet while you tell us you want to lynch weaker players , you insist on calling out the people who offers the most a pro-town behavior. And if you tell me this is because you don't think people will support as much as a Zoshi/Vicc vote, I swear I'm going to be mad. I've got a big problem with that, because not only do you express that you want to clear V by cardflipping Cedo, but you only say you only want to piss him off. V contributions have been pretty much in the same direction as me, and so I don't understand why you would be pushing for me so much at this point and not try to clear me before. It's either you are just clearly playing wolf or just being really mad and target the least experienced player out of the bunch.
If you're smart enough, you'll realize I don't vote for you because of how reactionary you are. I feel like this is too careless for a wolf.

I'm okay with lynching bad players, I'm also looking for wolves. Stop ignoring what I am saying.

I did read what you said, and I did only criticize your way of thinking. You prove your point by voting for your suspicions, but you don't seem to generate much info on the weaker players.

You can't vote me right now. There is no evidence. Actually I have done nothing controversial until I called V out. Tell me if you were a wolf, when you would have been "the first one on my ass".

WOW. Talk about not reading my posts. I said: "You stand as a very controversial player (from what I saw last game)". The sole fact that you played in a very spontaneous way last game would be a good opportunity for a wolf to push votes on you. Most of the people here have issues with you, this is advantageous for wolves. I see a change in AC1 dynamic since my last analysis which proves my point. I'm not sure if your objective right now is to intently place yourself on the wall. "You can't vote me" is pretty dumb. Proof, you voted me with less to no reasoning.

Calm your horses freaky, you're not my priority right now, and by now, you're like a big muddy brown mix of red and green.
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Still not getting my vote off Manti. And by the way, I want to have YMIA and others' opinion on this:

While waiting for Manti, I'll only say that I do not feel uncertain lynching freaky than YMIA. Freaky's current actions are confusing and seems like someone who writes a lot about what is on his mind. It mostly seems like errors in interpretation/communication YMIA's posts however are very ordered and to the point. I do have major suspicions based on his most recent one (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=343) where he places a vote on the most easiest target right now.

I wouldn't care much for the vote itself if it wasn't backed up by a stupid reason which proves the fact that he has definitely not read through the thread entirely. Plus, this reason does not even makes any sense as to how it pertains to arising suspicions. Freaky's idea did not even generate any controversy about himself. Hell, even the motive behind his vote is totally empty of intentions. The whole logic is summed up as "I have no intention of looking for wolves, I'll put a vote because I've got called for". It's total bullshit and I don't know why no one except Freaky has noticed it. And what the fuck is this "AC1 is suspicious because you seem intent on lynching both freaky and I"? No valid reasoning, and it also sounds like he's knowing more about people and their roles than normal.
Come on, this is horrendous.

[Viccica]

Re: TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

Actually, James. I did respond to you, several pages ago and I said that my joke was clearly a joke. You're too defensive about it. Why?


I can see where Manti is coming from with regard to dance but I disagree that freaky doesn't seem suspicious. I don't think the votes on him are indicative of the level of suspicion though. Mostly mob mentality. He's actively posting and stuff which is a good far cry above someone like dance or James May who have been here, but barely and when they've appeared they don't seem to have much to say, despite 21 pages of things to respond to.