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lol i love it. K,10 is actually profitable against the people i was playing against. their hand range is literally any 2 cards. the kids i raised with K,10 were taking pots down with 4,7 off so it is profitable against really loose players.

K10 is alright in some spots, especially in position. Especially 6 handed. 9 handed you'll end up driving a cab unless you know the table.

Shit like K6 is crap that falls into the super -EV zone. It baffles me how often I get paid off by people playing these hands, especially from the blinds. Nothing gets me more excited than the idiot reluctantly calling me from the blinds, because a raise on the button must be a steal, check calling/betting into me to the river and giving me his stack holding something like that.

Thanks guys, you have been helpful. Anyone got strategy on shootouts, where the only way to score a tourney ticket is win 1 6 handed table followed by the 6 handed final table (where all the first round winners go). If i play tight I am usually up against 1 player but have to survive a 6:1 chip defecit or worse. If i play more loose I might have a shot but most players shove with any two. Its not a huge time waster because these things generally only last 20-30 minutes and ive been running 4-6 tables at once.

I'm not actually familiar with optimal play in shootouts, but from those free ones that I have won, I mostly play tight until the blinds go up so I'm isolated against only a few players, and then simply exploit their mistakes. I find either the big stack is often spewy and tries too hard to get me out quickly, leading me to quickly double up several times and take the lead and him to start flaming me in the chat, or he gets too tight and I can start stealing a lot of pots.

In the second round things become pretty standard. People seem to do less dumb shit here but will also play tighter when things come down to it, so by playing aggressively you can win a lot of chips.

[lumphoboextreme]

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K10 is alright in some spots, especially in position. Especially 6 handed. 9 handed you'll end up driving a cab unless you know the table.

Shit like K6 is crap that falls into the super -EV zone. It baffles me how often I get paid off by people playing these hands, especially from the blinds. Nothing gets me more excited than the idiot reluctantly calling me from the blinds, because a raise on the button must be a steal, check calling/betting into me to the river and giving me his stack holding something like that.



I'm not actually familiar with optimal play in shootouts, but from those free ones that I have won, I mostly play tight until the blinds go up so I'm isolated against only a few players, and then simply exploit their mistakes. I find either the big stack is often spewy and tries too hard to get me out quickly, leading me to quickly double up several times and take the lead and him to start flaming me in the chat, or he gets too tight and I can start stealing a lot of pots.

In the second round things become pretty standard. People seem to do less dumb shit here but will also play tighter when things come down to it, so by playing aggressively you can win a lot of chips.

i'll call raises from the blinds with hands like 78 suited and 45 suited stuff like that because it's either hit or miss and only good players can see it coming. those hands are really profitable for me. implied odds are great. hit and win big, miss and fold.

[Reincarnate]

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stop fukken spamming my inbox pl0x

[Reincarnate]

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seriously stop

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i'll call raises from the blinds with hands like 78 suited and 45 suited stuff like that because it's either hit or miss and only good players can see it coming. those hands are really profitable for me. implied odds are great. hit and win big, miss and fold.

Exactly. Those aren't half bad hands in most situations, especially multiway. Small pairs are great multiway too, even HU against aggro players that you know have strong hands, since they'll stack off to your set if they hit top pair.

It's crap like A5 that will get you in over your head in shit if you hit your A. You already know that, of course, but people still do it anyway.

Playing A5 oop full ring, flop an ace personally you should fold if someone bets, you'll save yourself money lmao (If it gets checked around it's probably worth a bet on the turn and river).

[ddrmaniacaaa]

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It's crap like A5 that will get you in over your head in shit if you hit your A. You already know that, of course, but people still do it anyway.

Playing A5 oop full ring, flop an ace personally you should fold if someone bets, you'll save yourself money lmao

Oh so this is why i keep getting stacked. A5s is my favorite hand

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Oh so this is why i keep getting stacked. A5s is my favorite hand

Probably. Playing it in 9 man ring is not profitable. You can have some fun with it heads up though.


What a strange favorite hand. My favorite hand is AA. It's the most profitable hand, and it's simple to play. I like KK, QQ and AK too.

When I first started off I really liked JJ. It was my favorite hand. Mostly because I had won a lot of money with it, and hit sets and quads with it pretty frequently.

Nowadays I don't like it so much, mostly because it was be hard to play it certain spots. Same with TT. Though, I have to say, dealing with the agony of TT in full ring made my reads a lot better, and I've made some of the best calls of my game with that hand.

[ddrmaniacaaa]

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Yeah i just love making a wheel. And my other is A10s because of broadway/royal

ok help me out here. This was 4 hands IN A ROW that i didnt know how to play.



too many limpers. Jerry called the all in and i ended up with two pair, would have won the hand.



only 2 limpers to my spot, but i was still playing it safe. Again Jerry called the all in and i flopped two pair and would have won the hand



No one called here, but olivia was going all in every hand and sucking out several times. I also have bad luck with deuces (and really dont want to risk a tournament on a coin flip or worse.)



This was the kind of suckouts i am talking about. Olivia really was bored i belive because she ended up giving about 90% of her stack before i was moved to a new table. I called a 3x BB raise but Olivia shoved behind me, and SK shoved so am i wrong in thinking I was beat. would have called if it was just me and Olivia, but SK had just joined the table


I guess the problem with all of these hands are that, although i could try to limp in or see a flop for cheaply someone would have put me all in by the time it got around to me. I am almost never shoving unless i know a player is loose or I have something like AA, AKs KK.

[awein999]

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I made some of the best folds in a sequence of events in a tourney last night. I made a flush on the river, value bet and was instantly pushed all in. I folded and the guy showed a full house lmao. I made two pair on the river, a very good disguised two pair and I fold on the river because the guy made his straight. I make two pair on the turn but fold by the river because the guy made his flush on the turn...So I had some of the worst fortune this entire tourney and still got 2nd out of 90 lmao. I went heads up at a 4 to 1 disadvantage and battled to even and got it all in preflop QQ versus K10 and lost. I'll take that any day. It really helps to think of hand range and what "makes sense" and what doesn't when your opponent does something.

Definitely playing my A game. Felt like I was getting the worst fortune ever yet still profited

And I probably won't be able to play any home games Saturday.

[DotKritic]

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Why oh why are you making so many games? I've counted eleven, but I don't know if any have been played yet.

[awein999]

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Home game scheduled for 7:30 if anyone wants to play.

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Exactly. Those aren't half bad hands in most situations, especially multiway. Small pairs are great multiway too, even HU against aggro players that you know have strong hands, since they'll stack off to your set if they hit top pair.

It's crap like A5 that will get you in over your head in shit if you hit your A. You already know that, of course, but people still do it anyway.

ya, i call raises (even big ones, 6-8x the bb) pretty consistently if the pot odds are right with 34s - 9Ts. TJs and beyond are slightly different tho.

ya a5 etc and the rest of the weak aces will leave you broke quick in 9/10 handed play unless you play right; limp if its suited for the flush draw or bang two pairs and get your fat value from donkeys with AK-AT. with a naked ace im calling if the price is right, but Praying to bang my two pairs on the turn.

i make jacks really easy to play by playing them like sevens - tens (unless im tilted that is) - i fire out a big raise, fold 9 times out of 10 if a tight player 3 bets, and pray to flop a set. any more than hu to the fop and im almost always folding if Q k or A hit the flop. in some spots i might cbet but usually i just try to get away cheap.

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This was the kind of suckouts i am talking about. Olivia really was bored i belive because she ended up giving about 90% of her stack before i was moved to a new table. I called a 3x BB raise but Olivia shoved behind me, and SK shoved so am i wrong in thinking I was beat. would have called if it was just me and Olivia, but SK had just joined the table

Pretty standard fold with no information on SK. You have to fold when SK shoves unless you have AA, KK, QQ. AK at the absolute worst.

You're simply too deep to ever be calling there when SK already called the all in. He should be very strong here. AQ is about the bottom of his shoving range in this spot.

Of course, as far as I can tell, you've got him well covered, and given you're ahead of Olivia's range by a mile, you COULD call and expect reasonable results, but most of the time it's better to wait for a better spot.

Even then, you bust here as you can see with all of those hands, but that's the way it goes sometimes. At least with those hands the call is always +EV. Here you run about 54%, but that's near the maximum you would ever expect to run with this hand 3 way. Most of the time you'll be running around 30%, or about 18% when SK has an overpair.


If the blinds were a lot higher, you'll be instantly calling here most of the time, mostly because SKs range would be way wider then, making the call much more profitable.

[ddrmaniacaaa]

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yes i did have him almost 2.5 to 1 but I rarely play a mid pocket pair more than 2 handed, especially with the tourney on the line.



Also, 2nd Ticket won 2 days ago to The NAPL rookie division ($500 prize pool) so well see if i can master the people who apparently only play limit hold em.

And, I finally snagged a ticket to round 2. Only 2nd Omaha Hi/Lo freeroll I have entered and I squeezed a top 20 place out of 9,000 entrants. Not bad since apparently I play "loose aggressive"

[awein999]

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I think I have a loose aggressive reputation as well but I honestly don't know. You'd have to ask around lmao.