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  • TC_Halogen
    Rhythm game specialist.
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Feb 2008
    • 19376

    #3121
    Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

    Originally posted by One Winged Angel
    jesus christ what the hell is wrong with me...for like half a second, I pictured someone raping an anthropomorphic arrow woman labeled 'tageri' and blasting her/it in the face
    holy **** what xD

    Tageri to me should be one of the cutoff FGOs. I mean, why are we arguing so hard here when we have the potential lines for FMO and FGO set?

    You can have TTE as the FMO cutoff, and Tageri as the FGO cutoff. I think Tageri is an 84, and TTE is an 83 in my eyes. Nothing should go in the middle of these two sims in difficulty range.

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    • stavie33
      FFR Player
      • Aug 2006
      • 1925

      #3122
      Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

      Who the hell thinks Reality has harder patterns than Tageri? WTF? Reality has the most straightforward patterns of any FGO (or FMO for that matter), when tageri has some icky, icky patterns (32nd burst into jack hand wut?)

      Sorry, Cyrenics, you're wrong on that one, Tageri is clearly leagues harder than reality, FN I can agree with, Lolo if you're a slow player, but reality? haha, no.

      Time To Eye is FGO due to one pattern, and it's NOT the rolls (those are really easy, actually). It's the long one handed style jumptrill with annoying patterns and notes following it INTO the rolls. I can AAA the rest of the song but I get anywhere from 10 to 20 goods in there alone, it's evil

      EDIT: Maybe it's just because I can't one handed trill worth ****
      Last edited by stavie33; 12-3-2009, 01:08 PM.
      It's getting better all the time
      I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
      The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
      You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
      Turning me round (Oh Oh)
      Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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      • TC_Halogen
        Rhythm game specialist.
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Feb 2008
        • 19376

        #3123
        Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

        Originally posted by stavie33
        Who the hell thinks Reality has harder patterns than Tageri? WTF? Reality has the most straightforward patterns of any FGO (or FMO for that matter), when tageri has some icky, icky patterns (32nd burst into jack hand wut?)

        Sorry, Cyrenics, you're wrong on that one, Tageri is clearly leagues harder than reality, FN I can agree with, Lolo if you're a slow player, but reality? haha, no.

        Time To Eye is FGO due to one pattern, and it's NOT the rolls (those are really easy, actually). It's the long one handed style jumptrill with annoying patterns and notes following it INTO the rolls. I can AAA the rest of the song but I get anywhere from 10 to 20 goods in there alone, it's evil
        Don't act like your opinion is the strongest compared to everyone else. It's better to say that you completely disagree than to say that they're completely wrong. Because I completely disagree with your reason behind TTE's difficulty. P.S. STOP WITH THE I ADSDFSAFASDAFD

        You cannot call Time to Eye FGO because of 16th trills. You've just said that the sole reason it's rated FGO because of entry into the rolls, but also said that the rolls aren't part of the difficulty.

        And I also think that Reality is easier than Tageri, because of the kind of player that I am. I can take on 16th streams at 260 and pretty much AAA them on command.

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        • Patashu
          FFR Simfile Author
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Apr 2006
          • 8609

          #3124
          Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

          quick guys draw anthropomorphic versions of your favourite ffr songs
          Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
          http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
          http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
          Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
          http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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          • SKG_Scintill
            Spun a twirly fruitcake,
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Feb 2009
            • 3877

            #3125
            Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

            Reality is easier, but it's just FGO speed. Tageri has tricky stuff at FMO speed.





            Originally posted by bluguerilla
            So Sexy Robotnik (SKG_Scintill) {.0001/10} [--]
            ___
            . RHYTHMS PR LAYERING
            . ZOMG I HAD TO QUIT OUT TERRIBLE
            .

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            • stavie33
              FFR Player
              • Aug 2006
              • 1925

              #3126
              Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

              Originally posted by TC_Halogen
              Don't act like your opinion is the strongest compared to everyone else. It's better to say that you completely disagree than to say that they're completely wrong. Because I completely disagree with your reason behind TTE's difficulty. P.S. STOP WITH THE I ADSDFSAFASDAFD

              You cannot call Time to Eye FGO because of 16th trills. You've just said that the sole reason it's rated FGO because of entry into the rolls, but also said that the rolls aren't part of the difficulty.

              And I also think that Reality is easier than Tageri, because of the kind of player that I am. I can take on 16th streams at 260 and pretty much AAA them on command.
              I'm not saying my opinion is the strongest, I just don't think there is any plausible explanation or proof saying that Reality has harder patterns that Tageri, it's just rolls and inverted roll, it can be read by a newbie, they just lack the speed. I'm not saying I am right, and I'm not saying which is harder overall, that's an opinion, however, it is FACT that Reality has much easier patterns than Tageri, no way around it, that's all I'm saying
              It's getting better all the time
              I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
              The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
              You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
              Turning me round (Oh Oh)
              Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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              • SKG_Scintill
                Spun a twirly fruitcake,
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Feb 2009
                • 3877

                #3127
                Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                You're saying that if a file has tricky FGO-ey bits it's a FGO, well what about:
                Dead and Direct bursts
                Silly Symphony 3432(14)111 bits
                Momentary Life overall
                Demon Fire minijacks
                Kirby Concerto jacks
                Big Blue climax





                Originally posted by bluguerilla
                So Sexy Robotnik (SKG_Scintill) {.0001/10} [--]
                ___
                . RHYTHMS PR LAYERING
                . ZOMG I HAD TO QUIT OUT TERRIBLE
                .

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                • stavie33
                  FFR Player
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 1925

                  #3128
                  Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                  Originally posted by SKG_Scintill
                  You're saying that if a file has tricky FGO-ey bits it's a FGO, well what about:
                  Dead and Direct bursts
                  Silly Symphony 3432(14)111 bits
                  Momentary Life overall
                  Demon Fire minijacks
                  Kirby Concerto jacks
                  Big Blue climax
                  None of those are anywhere near as awful as that part in Time To Eye, which is also longer and more consistent then those others, all of those FMO parts are leagues easier than that part of Time to Eye. Only one I'd say is Momentary Life, but that's a personal opinion because I just suck at that song
                  It's getting better all the time
                  I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
                  The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
                  You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
                  Turning me round (Oh Oh)
                  Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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                  • bmah
                    shots FIRED
                    Profile Moderator
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    Global Moderator
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 8448

                    #3129
                    Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                    IMO stavie, I know you're trying to give a simple opinion, but your general demeanor says otherwise.

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                    • stavie33
                      FFR Player
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 1925

                      #3130
                      Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                      Originally posted by bmah
                      IMO stavie, I know you're trying to give a simple opinion, but your general demeanor says otherwise.
                      I have Asperger's Syndrome! I have trouble with these things! I AM trying to give a simple opinion, I'm not trying to be rude or mean, but I come off that way, I have trouble talking to others and accepting their points of view, a major issue with AS. There. Sorry, I'm really not trying to be mean or say I'm right, I just have very strong opinions that, despite trying to write as nicely as I can with my emphasis but not being rude, it seems to not be working. Sorry if I'm upsetting anyone.
                      It's getting better all the time
                      I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
                      The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
                      You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
                      Turning me round (Oh Oh)
                      Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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                      • DossarLX ODI
                        Batch Manager
                        Game Manager
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 15004

                        #3131
                        Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                        Dead and Direct has nasty bursts but most of the file is empty. The average difficulty makes it FMO.
                        Originally posted by hi19hi19
                        oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                        • SKG_Scintill
                          Spun a twirly fruitcake,
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 3877

                          #3132
                          Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                          Stavie... I am an Asperger as well, but I've teached myself how to act in a decent way by replicating the acts of others. There's no use in calling blame upon your "disorder", you just have to work a bit more to understand how other people work.
                          I still have a few emotions and facial expressions I can not quite understand (occasional childishness, arrogance and that smile that's supposed to tell whether a girl thinks you're just nice or actually wants something).
                          Alright, I understand a bit of rage coming out, but I'll tell that sarcasm and cynicism actually take away that rage in little amounts, try to find squabbles between people on this forum and act really sarcastic, troll once in a while, I spam MP chat sometimes when I need to release a bit more (though not recommendable).
                          Just don't let that rage heap up to the point where you have to throw nearby objects at innocent beings in the vicinity!
                          (I kicked my cat once really hard and after that I spent a whole day crying in my room because I really love that cat... which is now dead by the way, she died of stomach cancer...)
                          Last edited by SKG_Scintill; 12-5-2009, 07:22 AM.





                          Originally posted by bluguerilla
                          So Sexy Robotnik (SKG_Scintill) {.0001/10} [--]
                          ___
                          . RHYTHMS PR LAYERING
                          . ZOMG I HAD TO QUIT OUT TERRIBLE
                          .

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                          • mhss1992
                            FFR Player
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 788

                            #3133
                            Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                            So many crazy people in this forum...
                            Me too. But I don't have Asperger's.
                            jnbidevniuhyb scores: Nomina Nuda Tenemus 1-0-0-0, Anti-Ares 1-0-0-0

                            Best AAA: Frictional Nevada (Done while FFR was out, so it doesn't show in my level stats)

                            Resting. I might restart playing FFR seriously someday.

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                            • TC_Halogen
                              Rhythm game specialist.
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              FFR Music Producer
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 19376

                              #3134
                              Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                              Let's put these stories aside and get back to work on getting a general consensus as to what files belong where.

                              I have an idea: how about we discuss what general patterns make a song worthy of a FMO, and what makes things worthy as a FGO? Maybe we can figure out why some of these songs are rated the way they are.

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                              • Vanilla Mnm
                                cavs
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 3258

                                #3135
                                Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                                Hm, maybe we could come up with like standards for each difficultly.

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