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  • Kraezymann
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    FFR Simfile Author
    • Sep 2003
    • 1640

    #16
    Re: Stepping Stones of StepMania 3 [OPEN]

    Originally posted by Gundam-Dude
    I've got a super easy, short and sweet file for this, just needs 2-3 more difficulties.
    Awesome!!! If it's a sequel to Right Back or Magic I would figuratively shit rainbows into my pants

    Originally posted by literally everyone else except for XelNya and PorkyPink (but probably him too)
    Oh I probably have files some files for this I can probably send
    You are all majestic human beings and I can't wait to see what you send in

    Originally posted by XelNya
    Can't say I exactly agree with this rule though. But eh.
    Bruh, this was the rule from the last one too! Is there any particular reason why you don't?

    Originally posted by Kraezymann (in response to bmah asking about what difficulty he should aim for)
    here

    Comparing it to FFR, I'd say you're looking at about a low to mid 50's file. Or for Stepmania, we can take the Hard chart from your Clumsy Thoughts file (shoutouts to SSS1) as another example of my current limit.

    This isn't to say that you CAN'T make something harder; on the contrary, that's what the multiple chart requirement is for. There just has to be a difficulty that someone of my skill level can pass. I really enjoyed the first pack and thought that it would be a great start for newcomers to the game, or for super casuals like me who haven't mastered stuff like D7 or higher yet. I hope that makes sense!
    And in the OP of that thread I gave some screenshot examples of scores that I got (then) to help give an idea. Leo and BilliuMoto sent files that had some hard stuff in them, and after adding some easier charts they were a perfect fit Even your Magnolia was what I was looking for!

    I'm not upset, just trying to explain why I set it up the way I did
    Last edited by Kraezymann; 02-4-2016, 06:44 PM.
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    • leonid
      I am leonid
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      • Oct 2008
      • 8080

      #17
      Re: Stepping Stones of StepMania 3 [OPEN]

      What should difficulties be like? I'm thinking of a very hard chart and a pretty easy chart



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      • Kraezymann
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        • Sep 2003
        • 1640

        #18
        Re: Stepping Stones of StepMania 3 [OPEN]

        Hypothetically; if, for some reason you decided to send me your Ark, I would say it's good but I would also want a second, preferably easier chart.
        Last edited by Kraezymann; 02-4-2016, 07:09 PM.
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        • DDRNGGin
          FFR Player
          • Jun 2014
          • 472

          #19
          Re: Stepping Stones of StepMania 3 [OPEN]

          I am almost finished with the chart I am working on. Will probably send in the file either tonight or early tomorrow.
          DDRNGGin's New Stats Information

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          Current Level / Division: Level 73 (Division 5)

          Highest AAA/PFC: Flight of the Bumblebee (Difficulty 80)

          Highest Blackflag: AIM Anthem (Difficulty 76)

          Highest SDG: Choprite [3-0-0-1] (Difficulty 70)

          Highest FC (Non-mashed): BB Revenge [14-1-0-3] (Difficulty 80)

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          • L.B.D.D
            FFR Player
            • Aug 2013
            • 2949

            #20
            Re: Stepping Stones of StepMania 3 [OPEN]

            ): haven't had time like ever to touch ddream

            i really want to contribute at least one file to this but it'll probably be months or something before i get my brain powered up for a file

            but good luck on this pack -

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            • blindreper1179
              Vice President Of TGB
              • Jun 2006
              • 5901

              #21
              Re: Stepping Stones of StepMania 3 [OPEN]

              Originally posted by Kraezymann
              You are dead to me.




              Jk how's the new baby?! Or wait is it born yet I don't actually know lmao. Life comes first broski
              He was born on the 14th! He's doing great, except he threw up all over me yesterday -_- but the main reason I can't contribute is because my computer won't work. Or else I could maybe throw something together.
              Originally posted by thesunfan
              absolutely I want to vomit on your face irl
              Originally posted by choof
              It was like trying to throw logic at a fuckin brick wall lmao
              Originally posted by choof
              whats more dense, a black hole or an icyworld file
              Originally posted by Celirra
              I've never been so disappointed by a man from Alabama than I am right now

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              • DDRNGGin
                FFR Player
                • Jun 2014
                • 472

                #22
                Re: Stepping Stones of StepMania 3 [OPEN]

                Sent a file for the pack! The difficulties were rated using the SM Leaderboards Difficulty Calculator.
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                Current Level / Division: Level 73 (Division 5)

                Highest AAA/PFC: Flight of the Bumblebee (Difficulty 80)

                Highest Blackflag: AIM Anthem (Difficulty 76)

                Highest SDG: Choprite [3-0-0-1] (Difficulty 70)

                Highest FC (Non-mashed): BB Revenge [14-1-0-3] (Difficulty 80)

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                • MooMoo_Cowfreak
                  Abraxas Hydroplane
                  • May 2006
                  • 1746

                  #23
                  Re: Stepping Stones of StepMania 3 [OPEN]

                  Originally posted by leonid
                  Okay I'll make a file if you guys can help me out with syncing
                  I might be able to help, what's the song?

                  Submitted a file! Glad you're keeping this up man, it's always good to support the new players.
                  Originally posted by hi19hi19
                  dumps abstractly represent the song with arrows

                  post-dumps abstractly represent the existential nihilism that the song invokes in the listener with negative space, evoking the ephemeral nature of the mind - the journey of stepmania begins in hope yet soon becomes corroded into a dialectic of futility, leaving only a sense of dread and the unlikelihood of a new synthesis

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                  • Kraezymann
                    Forum User
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 1640

                    #24
                    Re: Stepping Stones of StepMania 3 [OPEN]

                    All notes made while reviewing in SM5 (except for Butterfly Joe, did it in ddream). I'm still kind of new to all this, so I hope these are at least a bit helpful

                    Nick012 - all of your files

                    That was unexpectedly fast! However, too much work is needed on these files for me to accept them. I know you mentioned in your email that you are fairly new to all of this so I'll do my best to explain why I made that decision:
                    - Many of the files were off sync, some by almost a 16th, and one actually had yellow note syndrome. For files like Sadness and Sorrow, having the right sync is extremely important. There is of course the possibility that your computer is a bit off compared to mine or to other people, which is totally forgivable. But for now these are in too rough of shape to really enjoy playing them
                    - Many of the files harder charts were over-layered and had too many notes for what the song was (the challenge chart for Aveyond Battle Music or Dragon Slayer, or the edit chart for Sadness and Sorrow, for example) and the easier charts were missing some fairly obvious notes completely (the challenge chart for Daze or The Hero)
                    - Audio quality is also fairly important too. A few of the files were in great shape, but The Hero would definitely need upgrading before being accepted to most packs
                    - I probably wouldn't accept Dragon Slayer as well because XelNya did one for SSS2.

                    Having said all that, I think 2 of your files are actually quite full of potential! Sadness and Sorrow would make an excellent piano file and Tsuna Awakens would be just plain fun. When I am free I could help you go over them in much more depth, or if you wanted to ask someone for some help that's okay too (there are some folks around here with much better ears/ideas than me). I think we can really get something out of those two I also found a better version of the song for Tsuna Awakens so we'll use that in the future, if you decide to want to work on them.

                    Rejecting all except for Sadness and Sorrow and Tsnua Awakens - lets work on those two!

                    Go Beyond!! - Unfortunately, Go Beyond has been stepped to China and back, and these particular charts don't really offer anything extra. The 16ths at the beginning are inconsistent - you have them for the first, third and fourth sets of synth sounds but not the second. The jumpstream in the Oni chart is alright if a bit messy, but that's about it. The speedup doesn't really fit the song since there isn't really any noticeable change in the tempo, and the long 16th stream is kind of unimaginative.

                    Gonna have to reject this one.

                    Butterfly Joe - I like how you changed the intensity to fit the song, however the layering in Hard seems weird to me... I think that the Hard chart is the better one but it just seems odd. You could probably add the 24ths in during the repeating piano bit at 54.7s. Also, the hands that you have on the 48ths at 74.2 should be on the 4ths immediately after (74.2s and 77.2s). Finally, I'm not sure the minifreezes at the beginning make sense. I'm assuming that they are supposed to go to the strings in the background, but the sounds are held so there is no need to have a second freeze for that particular sound. It sort of works for the long freezes at first (sorta, I'm kind of on the fence with those) but the second set should probably just be one longer freeze each.

                    As an aside, is this a variable bit rate file? If so, do you mind if we change it to a constant bit rate? I'm just asking because variable bit rates mess with the playback in the editor and every time I tried to play it the song was almost a full second ahead of the notes and I constantly had to play from the beginning lmao

                    Needs some work

                    Hua Sui Yue - Only one chart, will do full review when I get the second If you decide to do the really fast strings, make an third chart for them because I don't think having streams that fast would fit the song well - but only IF you are going to do those

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                    Last edited by Kraezymann; 02-5-2016, 08:35 PM.
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                    • James May
                      FFR Player
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 3817

                      #25
                      Re: Stepping Stones of StepMania 3 [OPEN]

                      btw Kraezy, I might find some time to ship one over but if you still have the Mudkip file that I sent to you a while back, you can use that as one of my submissions~
                      bananas


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                      • Nick012
                        FFR Player
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 104

                        #26
                        Re: Stepping Stones of StepMania 3 [OPEN]

                        Wow i can´t believe 2 files actually got the "need updating". I´m really happy, I´ll do my best and work on those files!
                        I could replace the random 32nds in the Sadness and Sorrow with 16ths and fix a few notes that are off by a 32/16. And obviously remove the edit(that was my first attempt at a dump file. Tried to make every note a jack, but i placed them way too close).
                        When you can please PM the Tsuna Awakens audio! I am aware some of those files have terrible audio quality, some i even had to amplify the noise of the file because it was way too low.

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                        • -Tim-
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 425

                          #27
                          Re: Stepping Stones of StepMania 3 [OPEN]

                          Loved the 2nd pack, definitely gonna do something for this one


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                          • leonid
                            I am leonid
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 8080

                            #28
                            Re: Stepping Stones of StepMania 3 [OPEN]

                            So I finished the chart but it turned out way too hard to qualify for this pack sorry mang........



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                            • Kraezymann
                              Forum User
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                              • Sep 2003
                              • 1640

                              #29
                              Re: Stepping Stones of StepMania 3 [OPEN]

                              Originally posted by leonid
                              So I finished the chart but it turned out way too hard to qualify for this pack sorry mang........
                              It's all good.

                              Originally posted by nick012
                              When you can please PM the Tsuna Awakens audio! I am aware some of those files have terrible audio quality, some i even had to amplify the noise of the file because it was way too low.
                              Will do that today
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                              • James May
                                FFR Player
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 3817

                                #30
                                Re: Stepping Stones of StepMania 3 [OPEN]

                                I have one that's 17 on the dot. I'll see if I can send it tomorrow along with Mudkip.
                                bananas


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