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  • PMS~dballin4
    FFR Player
    • Mar 2006
    • 93

    #16
    Re: Stepping songs at .1x speed rate or less?

    maybe that's it. I never bothered using high quality mp3s cuz its stepmania and lol who cares. also, i never cared about stepping every sound in a song cuz im a stepmania geezer and we didnt do **** like that.
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    • N.T.M.
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      • Dec 2007
      • 890

      #17
      Re: Stepping songs at .1x speed rate or less?

      Originally posted by PMS~dballin4
      maybe that's it. I never bothered using high quality mp3s cuz its stepmania and lol who cares. also, i never cared about stepping every sound in a song cuz im a stepmania geezer and we didnt do **** like that.
      It's not so much about stepping every sound as it is stepping everything accurately. It also depends on what part you're stepping. You also have to find an optimal speed for whatever part it is. If it's drums you can usually step them at .3x perfectly, but if it's guitar it'll usually sound like a skittle-note fest mostly composed of inaudible sounds at 1x speed. I usually step guitar at .7x unless they're isolated notes.
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      • PMS~dballin4
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        • Mar 2006
        • 93

        #18
        Re: Stepping songs at .1x speed rate or less?

        this is also why I used to finish file for a 2 minute song in less than an hour
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        • N.T.M.
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          • Dec 2007
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          #19
          Re: Stepping songs at .1x speed rate or less?

          Originally posted by PMS~dballin4
          this is also why I used to finish file for a 2 minute song in less than an hour
          Synthesized? Even then that's extremely short. I usually put a few hours into every file of mine.
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          • Shashakiro
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            • Aug 2005
            • 9082

            #20
            Re: Stepping songs at .1x speed rate or less?

            Precise technical accuracy is almost completely pointless at that speed. If you have to go lower than .3x just to figure out what the right note value is, then the section is either too fast for anyone to play without mashing, or too short for it to matter.

            If you're going to spend serious time on a file, your time is much better spent testing it and improving the general fun factor, patterns, etc, than making sure that none of your arrows are a thousandth of a second off.
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            • PMS~dballin4
              FFR Player
              • Mar 2006
              • 93

              #21
              Re: Stepping songs at .1x speed rate or less?

              I really don't know what you mean by a synthesized song. vsnares/flashbulb fast bursts? darude synths? electronic music in general??

              I've got a fairly long music background though so it's easy for me to hear if things are in tempo or not (and when playing whether I'm sharp or flat). I also didn't care about being perfect down to the 192nd cuz that's not what makes sm fun imo. horribly off is no good, but do like shash says and use your time better.
              Last edited by PMS~dballin4; 03-4-2009, 10:36 PM.
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              • N.T.M.
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                • Dec 2007
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                #22
                Re: Stepping songs at .1x speed rate or less?

                Originally posted by Shashakiro
                Precise technical accuracy is almost completely pointless at that speed. If you have to go lower than .3x just to figure out what the right note value is, then the section is either too fast for anyone to play without mashing, or too short for it to matter.

                If you're going to spend serious time on a file, your time is much better spent testing it and improving the general fun factor, patterns, etc, than making sure that none of your arrows are a thousandth of a second off.
                All valid.

                Originally posted by PMS~dballin4
                I really don't know what you mean by a synthesized song. vsnares/flashbulb fast bursts? darude synths? electronic music in general??
                A perfectly consistent tempo electronically generated.
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                • Patashu
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                  • Apr 2006
                  • 8609

                  #23
                  Re: Stepping songs at .1x speed rate or less?

                  in the far reaches of the future, half man half machine stepmania elite will be playing your files and they will be doing ridiculous attacks on j7.

                  every sound must be within 5 milliseconds of its true location or they will quit out and rate your file negative infinity forever
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                  • N.T.M.
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                    • Dec 2007
                    • 890

                    #24
                    Re: Stepping songs at .1x speed rate or less?

                    Originally posted by Patashu
                    in the far reaches of the future, half man half machine stepmania elite will be playing your files and they will be doing ridiculous attacks on j7.

                    every sound must be within 5 milliseconds of its true location or they will quit out and rate your file negative infinity forever
                    Damn right!! Finally somebody's thinking ahead here =P.
                    “Beware the irrational, however seductive. Shun the 'transcendent' and all who invite you to subordinate or annihilate yourself. Distrust compassion; prefer dignity for yourself and others. Don't be afraid to be thought arrogant or selfish... Suspect your own motives, and all excuses. Do not live for others any more than you would expect others to live for you.”

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                    • skyfox_
                      FFR Player
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 354

                      #25
                      Re: Stepping songs at .1x speed rate or less?

                      ITT:sync your sht close as possible and make it fun

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                      • who_cares973
                        FFR Player
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 15407

                        #26
                        Re: Stepping songs at .1x speed rate or less?

                        Originally posted by N.T.M.
                        A perfectly consistent tempo electronically generated.

                        then why would you need to check for sync at .1 unless the bpm was or the offset was off

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                        • N.T.M.
                          FFR Player
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 890

                          #27
                          Re: Stepping songs at .1x speed rate or less?

                          Originally posted by who_cares973
                          then why would you need to check for sync at .1 unless the bpm was or the offset was off
                          Extremely fast bursts can still be tough to tell. I mean I'm pretty sure. I just wanted a way to ascertain their accuracy.

                          Originally posted by skyfox_
                          ITT:sync your sht close as possible and make it fun
                          I'm a perfectionist though =P. Even if nobody will notice it, it'll bug me forever .
                          “Beware the irrational, however seductive. Shun the 'transcendent' and all who invite you to subordinate or annihilate yourself. Distrust compassion; prefer dignity for yourself and others. Don't be afraid to be thought arrogant or selfish... Suspect your own motives, and all excuses. Do not live for others any more than you would expect others to live for you.”

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                          • dood gone krazee
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                            • May 2007
                            • 1939

                            #28
                            Re: Stepping songs at .1x speed rate or less?

                            Just go get DDReam Studio, it'll make all your syncing problems go away...

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                            • N.T.M.
                              FFR Player
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 890

                              #29
                              Re: Stepping songs at .1x speed rate or less?

                              Originally posted by dood gone krazee
                              Just go get DDReam Studio, it'll make all your syncing problems go away...

                              www.ddreamstudio.com
                              Is it tough to use? How does it work? Do you use it in addition to the standard SM editor?
                              “Beware the irrational, however seductive. Shun the 'transcendent' and all who invite you to subordinate or annihilate yourself. Distrust compassion; prefer dignity for yourself and others. Don't be afraid to be thought arrogant or selfish... Suspect your own motives, and all excuses. Do not live for others any more than you would expect others to live for you.”

                              Christopher Hitchens

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                              • who_cares973
                                FFR Player
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 15407

                                #30
                                Re: Stepping songs at .1x speed rate or less?

                                Its pretty much the sm editor+

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