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  • Dr Tran
    Banned
    • Aug 2008
    • 1134

    #2971
    Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

    black key etude is hard

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    • qqwref
      stepmania archaeologist
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Aug 2005
      • 4092

      #2972
      Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

      Can we make Kanon-Kanon FMO already? I just got 11-1-0-1 and it's rank 119. Only 36 people have AAA'd it. It's not like it has any complicated patterns or anything, it's just really fast.
      Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
      Best SDG: PANTS (86)
      Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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      • Vanilla Mnm
        cavs
        • Dec 2007
        • 3258

        #2973
        Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

        JX move down Mute City Remix to a 9.. pl0x

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        • Niala
          (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jul 2007
          • 1697

          #2974
          Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

          Agreed with qqwref. =x

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          • stavie33
            FFR Player
            • Aug 2006
            • 1925

            #2975
            Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

            I'm back.

            1. Chlorophyll is much harder than Szamar, it's trickier and takes more endurance, Szamar is just kinda fast and has 1 tricky part

            2. Kanon-Kanon should be FMO, I'm sticking by this

            3. Feldschlatt, as much as I want it to be FMO, I think fits as the cap for VC. Especially with the trend of insanely hard borderline VC's that have come out that aren't fast, but extremely techical and tricky (Djdj PVC, Keep in Mind, Twelve, just to name a few)
            It's getting better all the time
            I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
            The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
            You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
            Turning me round (Oh Oh)
            Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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            • TC_Halogen
              Rhythm game specialist.
              FFR Simfile Author
              FFR Music Producer
              • Feb 2008
              • 19376

              #2976
              Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

              Originally posted by stavie33
              I'm back.

              1. Chlorophyll is much harder than Szamar, it's trickier and takes more endurance, Szamar is just kinda fast and has 1 tricky part

              2. Kanon-Kanon should be FMO, I'm sticking by this

              3. Feldschlatt, as much as I want it to be FMO, I think fits as the cap for VC. Especially with the trend of insanely hard borderline VC's that have come out that aren't fast, but extremely techical and tricky (Djdj PVC, Keep in Mind, Twelve, just to name a few)
              ...what about Kanon-Kanon should be FMO?

              If you say the trill, hit it as jumps. I discussed this with qqwref a while back and it's possible to get all perfects that way mathematically. Otherwise, it's just 8th notes.

              Feldschlacht is a VC.
              Last edited by TC_Halogen; 11-4-2009, 07:33 PM.

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              • stavie33
                FFR Player
                • Aug 2006
                • 1925

                #2977
                Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                ...what about Kanon-Kanon should be FMO?

                If you say the trill, hit it as jumps. I discussed this with qqwref a while back and it's possible to get all perfects that way mathematically. Otherwise, it's just 8th notes.

                Feldschlacht is a VC.
                For Kanon-Kanon, you and I have been over this, I'm not arguing anymore. It probably should be VC, and I acknowledge all your points, but I'm still going to think that, because it's just too damn fast for a VC, it's nutso fast. The chains are ridiculous, regardless of the trill. But I'm not arguing, that's why on my lists it's a VC

                Feldschlatt is VC, I agree, I think it's the max cut off for VC though, definitely harder than Bus Rides With People
                It's getting better all the time
                I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
                The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
                You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
                Turning me round (Oh Oh)
                Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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                • qqwref
                  stepmania archaeologist
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 4092

                  #2978
                  Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                  Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                  ...what about Kanon-Kanon should be FMO?

                  If you say the trill, hit it as jumps. I discussed this with qqwref a while back and it's possible to get all perfects that way mathematically. Otherwise, it's just 8th notes.
                  It IS just 8th notes... but the 8th notes are really fast. The easy patterns feel more like slow jumpstream, and the hard patterns and chains feel more like jacks. I personally have a ton of trouble PAing the song, and the fact that only ~110 people have done better than 10 goods means that this is objectively hard - it's not just me who finds the song tough. I think the song deserves to be FMO not because of how difficult you or I find it but because of how difficult the community overall finds it. There's no way that a VC that is so straightforward should have such bad scores, and there are a lot of solid FMOs that require better PA to get in the top 200 or 100.
                  Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
                  Best SDG: PANTS (86)
                  Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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                  • Dr Tran
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 1134

                    #2979
                    Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                    because its hard

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                    • Dr Tran
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 1134

                      #2980
                      Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                      kanon kanon isnt fmo worthy lol

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                      • mhss1992
                        FFR Player
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 788

                        #2981
                        Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                        I think Bus Rides With People is harder than all of those songs... That weird burst in the beginning is impossible, for me.
                        jnbidevniuhyb scores: Nomina Nuda Tenemus 1-0-0-0, Anti-Ares 1-0-0-0

                        Best AAA: Frictional Nevada (Done while FFR was out, so it doesn't show in my level stats)

                        Resting. I might restart playing FFR seriously someday.

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                        • Vanilla Mnm
                          cavs
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 3258

                          #2982
                          Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                          I don't find Bus Rides With People that hard.. Kanon-Kanon is much harder in my opinion.. Bus Rides With People has that one difficult burst, but it really isn't that bad. Kanon-Kanon is a lot harder in my opinion.

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                          • Plan_Bsk81127
                            snooches
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 6420

                            #2983
                            Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                            How the hell do you guys think Kannon is hard enough to be a FMO, half the song plays like a level 6 and then other half is pretty straight forward, you just need a tad more speed.

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                            • knife called lust
                              FFR Player
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 201

                              #2984
                              Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                              kanon-kanon is definitely hard enough to be a FMO. the fast bursts coming from such slow stream makes it harder to FC and PA then normal bursts


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                              • Vanilla Mnm
                                cavs
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 3258

                                #2985
                                Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                                Eh, I don't think either one should be FMO. They should stay where they are.

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