A new beginning for our SM community.

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  • who_cares973
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2006
    • 15407

    #256
    Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

    quick question, what is the site going to be called? stepmaniaunited?

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    • Kraezymann
      Forum User
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Sep 2003
      • 1640

      #257
      Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

      I thought about using an anagram for Stepmania so I looked it up on wordsmith.org/anagram and typed in Stepmania and the first one displayed was

      "Seaman Pit"
      Twitch | Stepping Stones 2! | Stepping Stones 3! | Stepping Stones 4!

      Submit to this -

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      • Kraezymann
        Forum User
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Sep 2003
        • 1640

        #258
        Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

        PS the second one was "Seaman Tip"

        Twitch | Stepping Stones 2! | Stepping Stones 3! | Stepping Stones 4!

        Submit to this -

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        • Reincarnate
          x'); DROP TABLE FFR;--
          • Nov 2010
          • 6332

          #259
          Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

          Can someone else please acknowledge what I've just said about the difficulty system and express some thoughts?

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          • Shikari
            FFR Player
            • Oct 2010
            • 2055

            #260
            Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

            Originally posted by Reincarnate
            It also removes subjectivity. "Oh, this file should totally be rated higher -- it has trills." "Well, I think it should be rated lower because trills are easy." Market-weighting averages all this crap out. So if MOST people suck at trills, the rating will take it into account so there's no argument.

            In other words, stop arguing with statistics. >:O Numbers don't lie.
            But the problem is to come up with these statistics to rate the song properly. Taking in account pass/AA/AAA rate is good, because it's based on real data of player's skills and performance, but it's hard to find it for almost every song used in this system, imo.

            Originally posted by gold stinger
            Shikari for resident profile artist

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            • Reincarnate
              x'); DROP TABLE FFR;--
              • Nov 2010
              • 6332

              #261
              Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

              The statistics are just functions of song performance and player performance. Ideally, the new SM client would keep track of this data. Everything scales in real-time and is fully accurate based on available data. You literally can't get a more accurate difficulty rating than this.

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              • who_cares973
                FFR Player
                • Aug 2006
                • 15407

                #262
                Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

                the problem would be implementing it

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                • Reincarnate
                  x'); DROP TABLE FFR;--
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 6332

                  #263
                  Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

                  why? it's piss-easy to implement

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                  • who_cares973
                    FFR Player
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 15407

                    #264
                    Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

                    nvm i forgot we could use the same system to record scores that smo uses. only problem i see would be distinguishing the multiple files for one song.

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                    • NeoMasterPie
                      Forum User
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 1405

                      #265
                      Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

                      compare particular data within .sm/dwi files?
                      edit: to ones already on the sever i would assume

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                      • Reincarnate
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 6332

                        #266
                        Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

                        Checksumming is an easy way out of that one (assuming the files are not stored on-server but are played locally and then verified) -- similar to how Flash game data is processed.

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                        • aj187
                          FFR Player
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 74

                          #267
                          Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

                          The backbone of my ideas for the score/simfile database/online gameplay hinged on hashes of simfile data:

                          1) Checksum simfile metadata (aside from offset which could be different on each player's computer if they decide to edit files manually? idk)
                          2) Checksum each chart.

                          @ssc_kki on Twitter
                          StepMania 5 Themes available from spinal shark collective. Might also want to check the SM5 Theme Update.

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                          • Reincarnate
                            x'); DROP TABLE FFR;--
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 6332

                            #268
                            Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

                            Yeah, hashes are the way to go.

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                            • Oni-Paranoia
                              No fucks
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 2440

                              #269
                              Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

                              @Reincarnate - Everything you said about the system is exactly what it should be. All though you can't have it be automatic. At this point in time, most people could do more difficult songs relatively easier than some simpler songs for whatever reasons. I don't see the problem with manual rating any songs that come in after the system is in place.

                              On another note, is the SM for this going to be a build off of 3.9, 4.0, or what... And as for a theme, is there anything in talks? Or is it all still talk of having the site up etc... first?

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                              • ddrxero64
                                FFR Player
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 790

                                #270
                                Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

                                NPS + FudgeFactor combine an actual system (that will never need to be rerated unless the definition of a second changes or we suddenly evolve into something different than human) with organized subjectivity. To use FudgeFactor on a 1-100 system is to use a subjective system on a subjective system. It makes no sense.

                                Also, found a huge hole in this thread.


                                Originally posted by Shikari
                                Gellenduo, I said I want to bring the FFR's idea back to the life, but I didn't mention that would be ONLY for keyboard players and stepartists, and people from FFR. Since all this is about an unificated community, of course I'll ask people from OD, Bemanistyle and KBO some help. I consider them separated "categories" because of a multitude of reason: Stepping style, required skills to play, number of players, since we have people who play pad, but not KB; people who play KB, but not pad; people who play OD's files, but aren't aware of keyboard challenging files and pad files, aside of DDR games; people who play solo, and don't play singles anymore. See? They're sorta separated, even being part of the same game.
                                Which is why, as much as I want to help, it's not my place.

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