Ingame Song Information

[who_cares973]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

the hardest challenging will always be over the frail dream just as it was planned to be when it first came out

[mhss1992]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Jelly Roll Blues feels more like a 69 or 70. It's not that hard to Full Combo but a tad annoying to PA. Plus it's pretty short.

Those trills are diabolic. If Jelly Roll Blues become 70 or 69, while songs like Balloon Fever are 74, I'll say that Science Genius Girl is a 80, because this is just ridiculous.

[bballa48]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Stavie dude I appreciate all your work and respect your opnions, but honestly I think you are the only one who thinks Pure in Asia is easier than Tambourine Chorus.

Furthermore, how are you going to tell me that 300 is easier than the songs I mentioned? It is hard as hell to PA, and the bursts toward the end are hell.

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Once more, 300 is harder to AAA, but the file is not that bad, hence I put it where it was, yes it's harder than the normal 76's, but it's not that bad, I could probably move it up.

@ all of whocare comments, I should get below average players to comment, that's true, and I respect you very much, and you're differing opinions, so I will talk to other people. Only opinion that I think is beyond retarded is Fighting for Control. The jumpstream in that is easier than in Etude to a Dragon, it's the easiest VC in the game by far, I don't know how anyone can see differently unless they are just horrible at jumpstream. The songs jumps are quite spaced out, and it's relatively slow. Pure in Asia can be higher, I'll look into that. When I first played it, I thought solid 69, but then I tried Tambourine Chinois again and took me like 3 tries to AAA while I AAA'd Pure in Asia 3 to 4 times in a row. Once more, it's how well I play for that one, so yes, other opinions are welcome.

Gym Leader's patterns are not tricky at all, they're much easier than Ivaltek's patterns, I don't see what's hard about it, pattern why's that is, it's pretty straightforward. Speaking of patterns, that would make Washamoose low VC as well, since it has some damn evil patterns as well.

Difficulties will always be debatable because other people are better at somethings and have different skill levels, for example I rock jumpstream but suck at trills.

[freakOmani]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

wow "beyond retarded?"

i like how easily you agree with players who are better than you but beat down everyone else's opinions like they're nothing

[bballa48]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Fighting for Control seems a whole lot more awkward to me than most jumpstream songs. It also seems fairly fast (I don't know BPMs). Etude is slow as crap though. And I'm not bad at jumpstream either... I've AAA'd EHHS and a Pants AAA is doable for me(got close the other day). The first time I played Fighting for Control, I honestly remember thinking, "dang, this is a pretty tough VC". Maybe I'm crazy, but it felt hard to me.

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

wow "beyond retarded?"

i like how easily you agree with players who are better than you but beat down everyone else's opinions like they're nothing

Sorry, I'm not trying to beat everyone down, it's just I don't find that one debatable at all. It's like if someone told me Excite Bike should be VC and was serious about it. That song is the easiest VC in the game, and I won't change it unless a pro tells me that it's even hard for him. Idk, I played that song quite a bit, and I don't see it being VC.

I don't mean to beat down people's opinions, I'm sorry, I just have issues with how I talk to people sometimes (aspergur's syndrome), so I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but I see how it comes off like that.

[freakOmani]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

no problem, I'm sorry as well for making such a strong accusation, but you have to realise that your perception of jumpstream differs quite a bit from a majority of players

[gta0004]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

why is excited bike rated so easy. i find it hard

[Frozen Beat]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

It's ranked low because it's 9 seconds long.

[Niala]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

I'm looking to see if everybody thinks that State of Emergency should be moved down to a C, VC seems to high for that song. Don't know if we've already debated this, but here goes: The song is pretty short, and doesn't really have anything too difficult about it. The fact that it switches between quick little bursts of 16ths and jumps might trip you up once or twice, but really, that's it. The jumps at the start are simplified by having the same jump repeated twice in a row throughout a section, like [12][23][34][34][14][12][12][24] (not sure if that's exactly right, but you get the picture.) There are no difficult jacks or stream; the only thing that might make it kind of difficult is that it's fast, at like 190 BPM or something similar. Thoughts, everyone?

[Vanilla Mnm]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

I'm looking to see if everybody thinks that State of Emergency should be moved down to a C, VC seems to high for that song. Don't know if we've already debated this, but here goes: The song is pretty short, and doesn't really have anything too difficult about it. The fact that it switches between quick little bursts of 16ths and jumps might trip you up once or twice, but really, that's it. The jumps at the start are simplified by having the same jump repeated twice in a row throughout a section, like [12][23][34][34][14][12][12][24] (not sure if that's exactly right, but you get the picture.) There are no difficult jacks or stream; the only thing that might make it kind of difficult is that it's fast, at like 190 BPM or something similar. Thoughts, everyone?

I think it should stay where it is. It's a lot more difficult than a lot of Low VCs in my opinion.

[Niala]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

I think it should stay where it is. It's a lot more difficult than a lot of Low VCs in my opinion.

Reasons and examples please. =)

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Alright, here are the final changes (for now) to the list, tell me what you think, I think it makes up for a few complaints.

Tambourine Chinois to mid 68

Pure in Asia to mid 69

Fei Longer and Starlight low 68

300 highest 76

[Vanilla Mnm]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Alright, here are the final changes (for now) to the list, tell me what you think, I think it makes up for a few complaints.

Tambourine Chinois to mid 68

Pure in Asia to mid 69

Fei Longer and Starlight low 68

300 highest 76

Like them Although I blackflagged Pure In Asia & no matter how hard I try I can't FC Starlight OR Fei Longer XD, but yeah, those are perfect.

Niala. Reasons: I don't really know, I just play the file & it's harder for me. I have a hard time getting the FC on that song let alone AAAing it. Life Light is easier, dot death, Wish (For FFR), Dot Matrix Hero, & Tambourine Chinois is easier for me. I mean, most people find State of Emergency to be easy, but I find it so freakin' difficult lmao. XD I've AAAed Life Light & that one is definitely easier than State of Emergency. I say State of Emergency stays where it is.

Another thing, I never got opinions on my World of Dreams thought. I don't see how it's a 46 & not a 47. How is Tetris Remix a 47? World of Dreams is all jumps & has the most arrows for a level 7 (Over 1000). What do you guys think?