TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD

yeah

and I already pointed this out but I don't see how his desire to kill zenith progressed, I'll find the post

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD

Oh, you're talking about Blaster, not me.

That's fine. He should have some thoughts on AA's behavior, as he's more caught up than I am.

AA: Yeah, rzr said that Zenith was against analyzing kills in a previous scum game of his.

ah

well like charu had said zenith has been trying to change his meta a lot so I don't think that's a strong point either

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD

and I already pointed this out but I don't see how his desire to kill zenith progressed, I'll find the post

I'm saying that "his reasoning for wanting to kill you is situated in his read on Zenith"

which is fair to a degree, those are data points, but if he really cares he should be considering all data points instead of flat out ignoring "you"

THIS is cherry-picking: picking out instances of what he considers wolfy behavior without considering anything else

especially considering how unstable Zenith was on D1

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD

couple that with a lack of visible development on Day 1 and he doesn't look good to me

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD

was digging through red blaster's posts and something doesn't sit well





these are the only two real posts where he mentions zenith. the first post he mentions zenith in the context of charu's case and doesn't seem to think much of it, in the next one he admits that zenith would be on his suspect list, and then for seemingly no reason zenith/me progresses more and more on the scum list until it gets to this



I see nothing that would make that happen especially since zenith hadn't posted at all after red blaster made those first posts

here it is

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD

since day 1**

[fontisian]

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD

like, I don't need to even look at xel until next phase or the phase after because he's null and bad at d1

Ok, so this was the reaction to pressure that bothered me.

It's not like he's calling Xel mafia for pushing on him, he's just calling him bad. I think a mafia who knows town (or an SK, I guess) is pushing on him is more likely to try to put down that person's reads whereas an anger prone town who gets pushed on tends to call that person mafia (Like AA just did with me actually. Hmm).

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD

couple that with a lack of visible development on Day 1 and he doesn't look good to me

well, I should probably substantiate this before using it as a point against him

[fontisian]

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD

ah

well like charu had said zenith has been trying to change his meta a lot so I don't think that's a strong point either

I get that, but changing one's meta doesn't really change one's values, right?

Oh, and I apologize for using this against you. It really sucks to have defend the actions of your predecessor when you can't possibly know what they were thinking. I just can't not use it either, you know.

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD

I get that, but changing one's meta doesn't really change one's values, right?

Oh, and I apologize for using this against you. It really sucks to have defend the actions of your predecessor when you can't possibly know what they were thinking. I just can't not use it either, you know.

don't apologize it's just part of the game, I'm just still salty that I'm being scumread because zenith is a dumbass

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD

well, I should probably substantiate this before using it as a point against him

read the post I quoted I think I did it for you

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD

I get that, but changing one's meta doesn't really change one's values, right?

Oh, and I apologize for using this against you. It really sucks to have defend the actions of your predecessor when you can't possibly know what they were thinking. I just can't not use it either, you know.

idk from what I've seen zenith changing his meta often includes changing how he approaches the game, not just how his posting style is, which could include how he handles particular data points

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD

read the post I quoted I think I did it for you

I want to confirm for myself

but tentatively, I agree, things don't add up

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD

Ok, so this was the reaction to pressure that bothered me.

It's not like he's calling Xel mafia for pushing on him, he's just calling him bad. I think a mafia who knows town (or an SK, I guess) is pushing on him is more likely to try to put down that person's reads whereas an anger prone town who gets pushed on tends to call that person mafia (Like AA just did with me actually. Hmm).

as much as I hate having to use this defense I think that's typical zenith reaction

[thesunfan]

Vote Count

Votes from post 2207 to post 2579
Night in 4:16:01
---

• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 3 -- SKG_Scintill -- rzr (15), Hakulyte (45), Xiz (29)
• 1 -- DaBackpack -- Red Blaster (25)
• 1 -- Red Blaster -- DaBackpack (93)
• 1 -- rzr -- SKG_Scintill (4)
• 1 -- unvote -- Charu (42)
• 2 -- not voting -- AragakiAyase (77), reuben_tate (1)