Ingame Song Information

[who_cares973]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

that's not possible, even if you're kidding, no one would change that, just examine the charts, logically looking at the chart for Yoshi's Cookie, it still lands mid VD, just compare it to the nightmare that is Max Forever

it is possible and im not kidding. dead and direct is 1000x easier than VB IMO


also you cant compare a legit file to a horrible piece of crap

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Okay, someone give me a serious reason why Yoshi's Cookie should be C, I am yet to hear one, and I'm sure TC Hal and EA will agree with me, it's def VD

[The5thMoon]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

There's some Difficult songs harder then Yoshi's Cookie

[Bolth mannn]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

notice the only players you listed as people who agree with you are all uber good at this game who can AAA FMO+

im not saying everything you say about lower levels is flawed but some of us others might have a better idea. its got confusing jumptrills mixed in with stream as well as it being pretty fast. its harder than lvl 8s, i guess the length would make it VD but id rather keep it as borderline easy C.

i honestly dont care

[who_cares973]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

well, I just played both of the files again, since I didn't remember famouz that well, so here's what I think.
famouz is a little faster than yoshi's cookie, but it doesn't seem as complicated because it has fewer jumps and every jump is on either a quarter note or an eighth note. famouz is only about 25 seconds longer and it has a slow part at the beginning that lasts about 5-10 seconds (not sure exactly). has a few minijacks which could make it slightly higher but aren't that hard to PA without avmisses. yoshi's cookie, on the other hand, has more jumpstream patterns with the jumps on the 16th notes, and in a few sections it more jumps than single notes, which can make PAing slightly harder than it would with all the jumps on the downbeats. imo the difficulty it takes to PA some parts in the file could make it a low challenging.

oh ok

[who_cares973]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

0 got ninja'd

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

what he just said is slightly incorrect, will get stats in a sec, and on top of that, the jumps in Famouz are much more condensed and much harder, seriously, I'll never see why this could ever be a C, ever. List of EASY VD songs that are harder:

What's What (the jump trills in this are harder than the ones in Yoshi's Cookie, and it's low VD, that's why I'm using this one)

That's Fair (rolls and jumps are harder than Yoshi's Cookies, and this is in D1)

Hatten Carnival (if anyone says this is easier than Yoshi's cookie, they have issues, the rolls and trills AND jumps combined make this much, much harder)

[Prime8]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

If Yoshi's Cookie is a VD, it's a very high VD.

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

well, I just played both of the files again, since I didn't remember famouz that well, so here's what I think.
famouz is a little faster than yoshi's cookie, but it doesn't seem as complicated because it has fewer jumps and every jump is on either a quarter note or an eighth note. famouz is only about 25 seconds longer and it has a slow part at the beginning that lasts about 5-10 seconds (not sure exactly). has a few minijacks which could make it slightly higher but aren't that hard to PA without avmisses. yoshi's cookie, on the other hand, has more jumpstream patterns with the jumps on the 16th notes, and in a few sections it more jumps than single notes, which can make PAing slightly harder than it would with all the jumps on the downbeats. imo the difficulty it takes to PA some parts in the file could make it a low challenging.

Yoshi's Cookie: 68 jumps

Famouz: 94 jumps

add them up yourself. And going strictly on PA, Famouz is MUCH harder to PA, has gay patterns, more jump-single-jump-single jumpstream consistently than Yoshi's Cookie, jacks, more overall stream and jumpstream, and is much faster, so yeah, Famouz is much harder.

[Bolth mannn]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

yes I agree, yoshis cookie should be VD

I got 2-0-0-0 on yoshis cookie pretty easily and got 16-0-0-0 on famouz after a lot of effort, famouz is a lot more akward and faster and harder to PA.

im happy with VD

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Yoshis cookie should be VC

flame me now.

If this joke was targeted at me, I'm not trying to flame anyone, I'm just very passionate about this particular rating, everyone has their own opinions, but sometimes opinions can be incorrect, though in this case, it remains an opinion that's undeterminable, however in some instances people can be wrong, ex. someone says that in their opinion a completely clean and open sky looks yellow with pink pokadots, but that's obviously incorrect in nearly any part of the world. I think that this is a VD without discussion, but since this is difficulty of a game based on skill, it's extremely subjective, hence why although I am pressing a very strong opinion, I'm not trying to necessarily browbeat them into submission, and I have no problem with their opinions and am not trying to flame anyone, sorry if I'm coming off that way.

[who_cares973]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

what he just said is slightly incorrect, will get stats in a sec, and on top of that, the jumps in Famouz are much more condensed and much harder, seriously, I'll never see why this could ever be a C, ever. List of EASY VD songs that are harder:

What's What (the jump trills in this are harder than the ones in Yoshi's Cookie, and it's low VD, that's why I'm using this one)no they arent

That's Fair (rolls and jumps are harder than Yoshi's Cookies, and this is in D1)rolls are the only hard part of this file. i honestly dont even know why you mention the jumps and the rolls dont go for longer than 4 notes and the 48ths rolls can be hit as 34 12

Hatten Carnival (if anyone says this is easier than Yoshi's cookie, they have issues, the rolls and trills AND jumps combined make this much, much harder)this song isnt properly placed in the first place but the rolls can be hit as jump trills and the trills are left and right so they arent even hard or fast

Yoshi's Cookie: 68 jumps

Famouz: 94 jumps

add them up yourself. And going strictly on PA, Famouz is MUCH harder to PA, has gay patterns, more jump-single-jump-single jumpstream consistently than Yoshi's Cookie, jacks, more overall stream and jumpstream, and is much faster, so yeah, Famouz is much harder.

yoshis cookie has 68 jumps but oh hey,whats that? its shorter than famouz? what? no. and pretty much all of yoshi's cookie which is prone to splitting jumps not to mention that it is neither one hand friendly or index friendly

[who_cares973]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

ps famouz isnt an easy challenging to begin with so why are you comparing the two

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

ps famouz isnt an easy challenging to begin with so why are you comparing the two

that's a very good point, I just got pwnd. You know what, if intermediate players find it difficult, then it's up to them, at my level, I'd be happy with it at difficult, so I guess I shouldn't be judging, hence why when I made my list of difficulties, I stuck mainly to C and up, but I wouldn't place this under C, but almost all my opinions are bias on skill and what chart I think is easy, so idk. Besides, Who cares made the best file in FFR history IMO so I'll just go with him till EA or JX come on or something

[Niala]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Actually, I agree with stavie on this one, although, not completely. I think Yoshi's Cookie should be a mid- to high-VD, not a low one. For the majority of the song, there's nothing hard about it, it just gets a bit complicated at the end when there are jumps placed on the snares. The whole first half has patterns that fit very nicely onto your fingers; and even at the end, the patterns are still simple [14] [23] stuff. It's not very fast, either, so there shouldn't be too much that's complicated about it. I can see it getting really stuffy at the end of it the first few times you play it, just because there are a lot of unexpected jumps, but once you get past that, I'd say mid-high VD.