World of Warcraft

[WTFBrandon]

Re: World of Warcraft

Just bought time, already fulled decked out with ICC10 heroic gear, and not interested in 25. We do it already do and I have some pieces in there but what im getting at is im bored with ICC.
What do I do now in WoW to waste time until Cata?

[NaturallyChanel]

Re: World of Warcraft

World of Warcraft

All right. This is going to be the new World of Warcraft thread since I went to all the time to compile a list of everyone's information, this way I will be able to update it when ever something new has changed. And yes I do have mod approval on this one, so no need to lock this one.

[B]Ground_Breaker[/B]
                - Level 70 - Mage               - Terokkar
                - Level 70 - Rogue              - Terokkar

[B]silentoath[/B]
                - Level 70 - Mage               - Tanaris

[B]Biff_tech[/B]
Gaamat          - Level 67 - Hunter             - Arthas
Rellena         - Level 59 - Death Knight       - Arthas

[B]s0ulst0n3[/B]
Terya           - Level 70 - Druid   - Night Elf- Lightninghoof
Soulstone       - Level 63 - Warlock            - Lightninghoof
Zephyurs        - Level 70 - Druid   - Tauren   - Black Dragonflight
Zephyx          - Level 54 - Mage               - Black Dragonflight
(M)Derkon       - Level 70 - Rogue              - Black Dragonflight

[B]Ahhimdead[/B]
Ahhimdead       - Level 70 - Priest  - Undead   - Tanaris

[B]classicalrocker[/B]
                - Level 68 - Warlock            - Emerald Dream

[B]Gun92[/B]
(M)Glorne       - Level 70 - Hunter  - Night Elf- Shandris
Glornee         - Level 65 - DK      - Night Elf- Shandris
Aubreyy         - Level 41 - Warlock - Gnome    - Shandris

[B]Bendxtwoo[/B]
Yougotmauled    - Level 70 - Druid   - Tauren   - Zuluhed
Yougothunted    - Level 63 - Hunter  - Blood Elf- Zuluhed
Yougotshadow    - Level 40 - Priest  - Undead   - Zuluhed
Frostmenice     - Level 36 - Mage    - Undead   - Zuluhed
Hatermade       - Level 36 - Shaman  - Troll    - Zuluhed

[B]Tokzic[/B]
Niiko           - Level 70 - Rogue              - Norgannon
Moruux          - Level 45 - Mage               - Dalvengyr
Interrobang                - Druid              - Pernolde

[B]Mr.Nothing[/B]
                - Level 4  - Warrior - Tauren   - Maelstrom
[B]
dietsnapple135[/B]
                - Level 70 - Druid              - Thrall
                - Level 70 - Mage               - Thrall
                - Level 70 - Priest             - Thrall
                - Level 48 - Warlock            - Thrall

[B]operationstrawbarry[/B]
                - Level 70 - Mage               - NerZhul
                - Level 80 - Hunter             - NerZhul
                - Level 52 - Paladin            - NerZhul

[B]Wineandbread[/B]
                - Level 60 - Mage    - Undead

[B]SephyxCore[/B]
                - Level 80 - Druid              - Auchindoun
                - Level 78 - Rogue              - Auchindoun
                - Level 66 - Death Knight       - Auchindoun
                - Level 74 - Paladin            - Tichondrious
                - Level 59 - Death Knight       - Tichondrious
                - Level 70 - Shaman             - Area-52
                - Level 55 - Death Knight       - Area-52
                - Level 71 - Priest             - Warsong
                - Level 55 - Death Knight       - Warsong

[B]deadplayer[/B]
                - Level 70 - Mage

[B]mightymic[/B]
                - Level 70 - Hunter             - Stonemaul

[B]bmxant[/B]
                - Level 70 - Paladin
                - Level 70 - Priest
                - Level 70 - Hunter
                - Level 70 - Rogue

[B]fido123[/B]
(M)Phirog       - Level 71 - Warlock - Undead   - Darrowmere
Celithus        - Level 48 - Paladin - Blood Elf- Darrowemere

[B]foxyroxy2693[/B]
                - Level 40           - Night Elf

[B]ImEric12 [/B]
                - Level 70 - Druid   - Night Elf- Thunderlord
                - Level 70 - Shaman  - Orc      - Arthas

[B]DrKirth[/B]
                - Level 63 - Warrior - Human    - Cho'gall

[B]ddr_dude[/B]
                - Level 70 - Paladin            - Demon Soul

[B]Necamus[/B]
Deusregum       - Level 31 - Druid   - Tauren   - Malfurion
Necamus         - Level 13 - Warlock - Undead   - Malfurion
Bashent         - Level 18 - Mage    - Undead   - Malfurion
Sinden          - Level 24 - Warrior - Tauren   - Zul'jin
Drasarr         - Level 36 - Hunter  - Orc      - Zul'jin

[B]missiekix_06[/B]
                - Level 70 - Mage               - Uldum
                - Level 70 - Warrior            - Uldum

[B]Kevin 18[/B]
                - Level 70 - Paladin            - Altar of Storms
                             Warrior            - Kel'Thuzad
                             Druid              - Illidan
                             Mage               - Burning Blade
                             Hunter             - Detheroc
                             Warlock            - Detheroc

[B]coaco [/B]
                - Level 70 - Priest  - Dwarf    - Stormrage

[B]1337h4xz0r[/B]
                - Level 60 - Rogue   - Night Elf- Ner'zhul
                - Level 70 - Warrior - Orc      - Spirestone
                - Level 66 - Paladin - Human    - Ner'zhul
                - Level 70 - Rogue   - Night Elf- Earthen Ring

[B]Cursebred[/B]
                - Level 70 - Priest  - Blood Elf
                - Level 70 - Druid   - Night Elf
                - Level 43 - Mage    - Draenei
                - Level 30 - Paladin - Human
                - Level 20 - Shaman  - Tauren

[B]devonin[/B]
Devonin         - Level 75 - Paladin - Human    - Mok'Nathal

[B]ravenhexa[/B]
                - Level 70 - Druid   - Night Elf

[B]ghount[/B]
                - Level 70 - Shaman  - Orc      - Gul'Dan

[B]Arrio[/B]
                - Level 70 - Mage               - Ursin
                - Level 70 - Hunter             - Ursin
                - Level 70 - Warrior            - Ursin
                - Level 70 - Rogue x2           - Ursin
                - Level 70 - Mage               - Ursin
               (T)Level 60 - Shaman             - Ursin
               (T)Level 60 - Paladin            - Ursin

[B]roundbox [/B]
Zeromant        - Level 72 - Warlock - Undead   - Bronzebeard

[B]Nubzpwnzer[/B]
Nitrix - Level 70 - Hunter
Level 70 - Priest

[B]HeLlZaRmy89[/B]
Gravlin         - Level 62 - Rogue              - Auchindoin

[B]passivegirl[/B]
                - Level 70 - Warrior
                - Level 70 - Priest

[B]TakeHayashi XD[/B]
                - Level 19 - Shaman  - Tauren
                - Level 4  - Rogue   - Undead

[B]sorakh275[/B]
                - Level 70 - Mage               - Fenris

[B]TrojanMan[/B]
                - Level 70 - Druid   - Tauren
                - Level 70 - Mage    - Troll
                - Level 70 - Warrior - Tauren
                - Level 70 - Rogue   - Undead
                - Level 64 - Hunter  - Dwarf
                - Level 63 - Priest  - Dwarf
                - Level 61 - Warrior - Gnome
                - Level 52 - Warlock - Blood Elf
               (T)Level 49 - Mage    - Human
               (T)Level 49 - Paladin - Blood Elf
               (T)Level 39 - Warrior

[B]Tonberry Kid[/B]
Tessel          - Level 70 - Warrior            - Llane
Facemace        - Level 70 - Paladin            - Gilneas

[B]Myattboy[/B]
Level 70 - Warlock

[B]MikeSugs[/B]
Necriss         - Level 70 - Paladin            - Eredar

[B]Elzam[/B]
Tichodius       - Level 70 - Paladin            - Moonguard
Kesin           - Level 70 - Warrior            - Moonguard

[B]darklordsarumon9[/B]
Upgrayeedd      - Level 70 - Mage               - Daggerspine
Elusive         - Level 33 - Rogue              - Daggerspine
Avistiff        - Level 65 - Mage               - Trollbane

[B]bender5[/B]
Turroda         - Level 70 - Mage    - Human    - Stormrage

[B]salenne[/B]
                - Level 70 - Paladin
                - Level 70 - Shaman

[B]slayer62[/B]
                - Level 70 - Hunter             - Kargath

[B]skorpion9x[/B]
                - Level 70 - Druid              - Blackhand
                - Level 70 - Paladin            - Dalaran
                - Level 53 - Hunter             - Khadgar

[B]thechild[/B]
                - Level 43 - Shaman  - Orc      - Bronzebeard

[B]Snowcrafta[/B]
Manstyle        - Level 70 - Mage
Henrietta       - Level 70 - Priest
Mingee          - Level 70 - Warrior
Juxie           - Level 70 - Hunter

[B]Raigor[/B]
Fortuitous      - Level 70 - Druid   - Tauren   - Bonechewer
Raigor          - Level 70 - Warrior - Tauren   - Bonechewer
Mahambria       - Level 70 - Shaman  - Tauren   - Bonechewer

[B]mr.mooman[/B]
                - Level 37 - Warlock            - Onyxia

[B]Gano[/B]
                - Level 70 - Mage               - Frostmane

[B]ELRayford[/B]
                - Level 14 - Warlock            - Kil'Jaeden

[B]Casull[/B]
                - Level 70 - Warrior            - Terokkar

[B]Kamalot2010[/B]
                - Level 70 - Warlock            - Skywall
                - Level 70 - Rogue              - Skywall

[B]NFD[/B]
Cutters         - Level 27 - Paladin - Human
Artemidorus     - Level 6  - Warrior - Night Elf
Lucyinthesky    - Level 5  - Priest  - Human

[B]DJRiDDeR[/B]
                - Level 70 - Warlock - Undead
                - Level 38 - Mage    - Undead
                - Level 13 - Warrior - Tauren

[B]FallenXxRaven[/B]
Fallenraven     - Level 67 - Warlock - Undead   - Uldaman

[B]Grandiagod[/B]
Illum           - Level 75 - Warrior            - Lightning's Blade
Switzer         - Level 72 - Priest             - Lightning's Blade
Rikon           - Level 70 - Warlock            - Lightning's Blade
Molrag          - Level 53 - Hunter             - Lightning's Blade

[B]BigBoss37[/B]
Lorche          - Level 72 - Rogue               Thorium Brotherhood

[B]Sullyman2007[/B]
                - Level 70 - Priest             - Drenden
                - Level 25 - Warrior            - Drenden

Where ever we left off in the last thread, pick it up here and lets start discussing an FFR WoW guild already, we need one of those. Ill keep track of that as well in this post. Ill go through and sort all the information out tomorrow when I wake up so its not as messy. And thank you to Dev for cleaning up the uber long list of people and players.

Well what server is most recurring throughout? We should use that one.

[BOSS_pjpaveloffga]

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Well what server is most recurring throughout? We should use that one.

definitely gorgonnash we should use that one

[Darkbreezee]

Re: World of Warcraft

lol still waiting cataclysm ...
I hate the translations for the german version, always a bunch of work to keep the english client tho ..>.>

[krunkykai22]

Re: World of Warcraft

Honestly, I'm just leveling up toons til cata comes out. It's really boring. :/ I mean yeah I can use gear from ICC as such and I can still down the LK for the first time, but I really don't care about having the Kingslayer title... its just a raid that people can easily do with 7/8 people in friggin cata lol

Devonin... I checked up on it and before patch 3.3.3 it was 540 you were right, however it was bumped up due to some crap or what not to 550. I was talking to a friend who is a better DK knowledge than I do and that's what he told me.

[Brycexx]

Re: World of Warcraft

dec. 7 needs to hurry up and get here

[devonin]

Re: World of Warcraft

It's never been anything but 490 and 540 in BC/Wrath respectively. If the stat persisted into Cataclysm, it would be 565 in Cata

[D!LL]

Re: World of Warcraft

It's an example of you being capable of spamming a big heal on undergeared tanks, or DPS who stand in fire. That's not necessarily speaking to your healing abilities at all.

HPS is not a stat that conveys information about skill. You have a maximum HPS you can generate based on your gear anyway. Take your best Healing:Time spell, spam it 100% of the time, non stop, pop all cooldowns. There, you've got a maximal HPS that has nothing at all to do with skill.

You also have to account for how LONG you can maintain that spamming. Some top tier boss fights are well over 6 minutes long, and if your mana runs out, it doesn't matter how much healing you can do in the first X minutes, when the later Y minutes have people dying.

Healing is one of the only aspects of the game that -doesn't- have a directly competitive metric of performance.

The ideal healing performance is 0% overheals, 0 deaths, and landing directly on 0 mana at the instant the boss dies and damage stops going out. All you can do is try to optimize for those numbers as best you can, but the game design is directly in opposition to that goal.

If the fight ends, and nobody is dead, your healers are doing their job. That's all there is to it.

Healing is a Threshold matter, not a Degree matter. The better the DPS's DPS the better it is to have them around, full stop. Once a healer gets to where they can get through the whole fight, without anybody dying, or running out of mana, everything past that is complete gravy.

"I didn't run out of mana and nobody died" is hit cap for healers.

I never go oom. and no one ever dies due to lack of healing. Derp AND i do 12khps. Am i cool yet?

Honestly, I'm just leveling up toons til cata comes out. It's really boring. :/ I mean yeah I can use gear from ICC as such and I can still down the LK for the first time, but I really don't care about having the Kingslayer title... its just a raid that people can easily do with 7/8 people in friggin cata lol

I think he's right. At this point all there is left to do is level toons for caty. Raiding's boring. ICC is a joke now. 30% buff, PLUS they took out the dodge debuff? Lol gg.

The only thing I really have left to do is get my FINAL ICC 25m achievement for my Frostbrood Vanq.

[ichliebekase]

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I never go oom. and no one ever dies due to lack of healing. Derp AND i do 12khps. Am i cool yet?

You're just mad that he's right. People DO die due to lack of healing. Hence why there is the healer roll. Derp.

[krunkykai22]

Re: World of Warcraft

Yeah but doing ICC25 man does nothing too. I mean yeah you get the achievement and you get that amazing mount ( can't say I don't want that ) But again, in cata you can get 12-14 characters and go beat it much quicker. All these things can be beaten much quicker in cata just like we do with BC now.

And Dev, you;re right. My bad. And To be honest, I think cap for def. in cata is 565/570 not sure yet. Read about it just a little bit ago.

[D!LL]

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Yeah but doing ICC25 man does nothing too. I mean yeah you get the achievement and you get that amazing mount ( can't say I don't want that ) But again, in cata you can get 12-14 characters and go beat it much quicker. All these things can be beaten much quicker in cata just like we do with BC now.

And Dev, you;re right. My bad. And To be honest, I think cap for def. in cata is 565/570 not sure yet. Read about it just a little bit ago.

Yeah, it's true. But it's the same as doing Black Temple now. A lot of my guildies do old world raids and stuff, but I find it boring. I mean, ****. I've done it all already. I don't want to go BACK and do it for NO ****ing REASON. And I Think they're taking the Vanq out of the game come caty.

I'm not sure about the Kingslayer title... Which I don't even wear because it's stupid.

You're just mad that he's right. People DO die due to lack of healing. Hence why there is the healer roll. Derp.

Not in my raids. So I'm not mad. LoLz

[ichliebekase]

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Yew arr knot undurstayndin whut eye am sayin.

What I was saying was if there is no healer or a bad/ignorant healer in a raid/dungeon etc, then people are very likely to die. If there is a healer that is doing his job, people don't die. I wasn't directing it to your healing abilities.

[D!LL]

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I know, but the whole topic of healing was brought up because of my comment.

I feel liable to defend my awesome.

I get very touchy when my BAMFery (Bad Ass Mother ****ery) comes into question.

[devonin]

Re: World of Warcraft

I never go oom. and no one ever dies due to lack of healing. Derp AND i do 12khps. Am i cool yet?

Somehow you're still missing the point that high HPS doesn't mean you're good, it means everyone else is undergeared or sucks. The only fights you should actually be generating 12k HPS are Valithria if you're in portals, and 25 Heroic saurfang if you're on the first 2 marks. Any other fight where you actually generate 12k hps, someone besides you is doing it wrong.

I think cap for def. in cata is 565/570 not sure yet. Read about it just a little bit ago.

The amount of defense necessary to be immune to critical hits is based entirely on comparative level between you and what is fighting you. A boss level mob while you are at max level has a 21.6% chance to critically hit you as a base. But being level 80, you have 400 points of defense skill (Defense reduces the chance to be critically hit by 0.04% per point) Which reduces the chance to 5.6% At 0.04% per point, you need to generate another 140 points of defense. Thus at level 70, you had 350 defense, and with 140 more were at 490 (which was defense cap in BC) At level 80 you have 400 defense and with 140 more are at 540 (Defense cap in Wrath) With the level cap going to 85, it's only an increase of 5 levels instead of 10, so the cap only goes up by 25 instead of 50, to 565.

However, they've removed defense rating as a stat, full stop. You'll have your defense skill go from 400 to 425 through levelling to 85, and the other 5.6% reduction comes in protection tree talents for all classes.

. I mean yeah you get the achievement and you get that amazing mount ( can't say I don't want that ) But again, in cata you can get 12-14 characters and go beat it much quicker. All these things can be beaten much quicker in cata just like we do with BC now.

They've taken away several meta-achievement and achievment run mounts and titles because they'd become trivially easy to get in later expansions. What makes you think there's no chance that these mounts and titles may also disappear in Cata?

[fido123]

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You want to heal as little as you have to to keep your raid alive. The more healing you do, the more aggro you pick up, and the more you over-heal, the more mana is going to waste for nothing. If as a healer you're keeping your raid alive doing as little overhealing as possible, that's how you know you're being a good healer. Healing/s means absolutely nothing.