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**qqwref** · 04-30-2009, 08:25 PM

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I think Radical Rat is a very low FGO (as in, 84). If you look at the top scores on it, it seems to be too hard to AAA to be a high FMO. It's not all that hard to FC/PA (assuming you can handle jacks), but then again neither are FN or Ketsarku. I guess I feel that people who are saying it's not FGO are comparing it to mid-range FGOs (which it's way easier than).

**jimerax** · 05-1-2009, 08:35 AM

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Radical Rat - low-FGO PA-wise, high-FMO overall speed-wise. 83 or 84.

my ideas on some songs (FMO-).
Dead and Direct - 79
bmv.578 - 80
October - 81
Schmollbluk - 88
CCCP - 90
Almost There - 92

also Bloodmeat [Heavy] and Perfect Cherry Storm are like 80-81 (don't remember too well tho).

**EAGAMES** · 05-1-2009, 10:03 AM

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He's a Radical Rat is easy. Too easy for FGO status anyways. I don't mind having another FGO AAA, though. =3

**NekoGon** · 05-1-2009, 11:20 AM

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Yeah Radical Rat is really easy for a FGO.. almost got the AAA in less than 10 tries but i screwed up the jumptrill at the end. If this was in SM midare would SDP the file I'm pretty sure

**mrrubixx** · 05-1-2009, 08:11 PM

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is eclipse even worthy of its guru placing i think not it should totally be in master only it is also very LAME i dont see why u think fcing this song is so great you mashed ur ass of ok stavie big friggn deal fcs are not that big of a whoop nor AAA's what are you accomplishing playing this game hmmm? i do not see the point in it so i have not played in a long time... u are all wasting ur time AAA's is just another saying for you got lucky faget!!! so dnt think ur so good at **** when all you did was fc fking eclipse its a lame song you got lucky you dont see eagames rubbing it in ur face or johnwaldenbig championwar tc_halogen sprite- bobeck or even powerramger i dont see the point in bragging stavie it just prooves my point that indeed ur a fking **** wod =.= im gana point out that probably more than half of that is a easy song like amity ^^ UR A LOSER stavie and how many fing times did you post that dude?

**ViViK** · 05-1-2009, 08:56 PM

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lol

As for Radical Rat, I'd say FMO also.

**stavie33** · 05-2-2009, 07:48 AM

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Originally posted by mrrubixx

is eclipse even worthy of its guru placing i think not it should totally be in master only it is also very LAME i dont see why u think fcing this song is so great you mashed ur ass of ok stavie big friggn deal fcs are not that big of a whoop nor AAA's what are you accomplishing playing this game hmmm? i do not see the point in it so i have not played in a long time... u are all wasting ur time AAA's is just another saying for you got lucky faget!!! so dnt think ur so good at **** when all you did was fc fking eclipse its a lame song you got lucky you dont see eagames rubbing it in ur face or johnwaldenbig championwar tc_halogen sprite- bobeck or even powerramger i dont see the point in bragging stavie it just prooves my point that indeed ur a fking **** wod =.= im gana point out that probably more than half of that is a easy song like amity ^^ UR A LOSER stavie and how many fing times did you post that dude?

WTF? I've never bragged about that score...who are you? Requesting ban please

**stavie33** · 05-2-2009, 07:51 AM

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Originally posted by jimerax

Radical Rat - low-FGO PA-wise, high-FMO overall speed-wise. 83 or 84.

my ideas on some songs (FMO-).
Dead and Direct - 79
bmv.578 - 80
October - 81
Schmollbluk - 88
CCCP - 90
Almost There - 92

also Bloodmeat [Heavy] and Perfect Cherry Storm are like 80-81 (don't remember too well tho).

really? I disagree with the majority of those, but whatever, I'll change them if you want

**Niala** · 05-2-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by stavie33

really? I disagree with the majority of those, but whatever, I'll change them if you want

I agree. Dead and Direct is much harder to PA, IMO, than both October and .bmv. Schmollbluck is hard enough to do for it to be harder than an 88. CCCP and Almost There I can't even fathom, however, so I can't really give a good opinion on those.

Oh, and as for Radical Rat, I'd say FMO, but I don't mind it staying an FGO. It's somewhere on the fence.

EDIT: Also...

Originally posted by mrrubixx

is eclipse even worthy of its guru placing i think not it should totally be in master only it is also very LAME i dont see why u think fcing this song is so great you mashed ur ass of ok stavie big friggn deal fcs are not that big of a whoop nor AAA's what are you accomplishing playing this game hmmm? i do not see the point in it so i have not played in a long time... u are all wasting ur time AAA's is just another saying for you got lucky faget!!! so dnt think ur so good at **** when all you did was fc fking eclipse its a lame song you got lucky you dont see eagames rubbing it in ur face or johnwaldenbig championwar tc_halogen sprite- bobeck or even powerramger i dont see the point in bragging stavie it just prooves my point that indeed ur a fking **** wod =.= im gana point out that probably more than half of that is a easy song like amity ^^ UR A LOSER stavie and how many fing times did you post that dude?

... Wtf? Who the hell are you, and what was that all about? XDDD

**qqwref** · 05-2-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by mrrubixx

is eclipse even worthy of its guru placing i think not it should totally be in master only it is also very LAME i dont see why u think fcing this song is so great you mashed ur ass of ok stavie big friggn deal fcs are not that big of a whoop nor AAA's what are you accomplishing playing this game hmmm? i do not see the point in it so i have not played in a long time... u are all wasting ur time AAA's is just another saying for you got lucky faget!!! so dnt think ur so good at **** when all you did was fc fking eclipse its a lame song you got lucky you dont see eagames rubbing it in ur face or johnwaldenbig championwar tc_halogen sprite- bobeck or even powerramger i dont see the point in bragging stavie it just prooves my point that indeed ur a fking **** wod =.= im gana point out that probably more than half of that is a easy song like amity ^^ UR A LOSER stavie and how many fing times did you post that dude?

lol troll is lol

**stavie33** · 05-2-2009, 05:34 PM

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Troll IS troll, but ignoring him, I need some pro's opinions on JX's ratings of the FMO and FGO's he just posted, because although he knows much better than I do, I do disagree with at least half of the FMO ratings he placed (specifically Bloodmeat, October, and Dead and Direct), so yeah, opinions?

**Niala** · 05-3-2009, 05:42 PM

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Well, not that I'm exactly a pro, Stavie, but I'm giving my input anyhow.

First of all, October. Definitely not an 81. The 32nds in it aren't all THAT hard to PA well. If I can do the majority of them, then I can see it being a bit more like an 80 than an 81.

Dead and Direct, 83. No doubt. The 64th runs in it are way too hard to do for it to be anything else. Not quite FGO material, but very high FMO.

And Blooddrunk should be moved down to an 82-81. The only difficult part is with the one handed trill and jumps on the other notes, and, if I was a bit better, that'd be the first FMO I'd AAA. The rest of it isn't hard enough to make it worth an 83.

And, on a note of my own, Eradication should be moved up to an 83. Not only is the jumpstream really difficult and full of one-handedness, but the 24th breaks into 16ths are hard enough to make me almost elicit it being an 84, making it an FGO.

Just some opinions for yah', Stavie & JX. :P

**TheSeventhDawn** · 05-3-2009, 07:34 PM

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I can't really evaluate precisely each song's difficulty because I'm a one hander, but there's a few things that I want to point out.

Originally posted by Bolth mannn

I have reason to believe that until you leave (heavy) should be a low 7.

besides the amount of notes for a lvl 6, its got those annoying slow jacks all the way through the song just like first try as well as some akward jump patterns and some 16ths that dont fit as a lvl 6.

Totally agree, the only 6 with more notes than ''Until You Leave (Heavy)'' is ''From Mount Chorus''. But that song's patterns aren't nearly as hard as those 16ths in Until You Leave(for exemple, those annoying rolls). Its difficulty is similiar to ''Roses and Butterflies (Heavy)'' if you ask me.

Originally posted by bmah

hard 6/Tricky: The Lion's Dance
semi-hard 6/Tricky: Seagull
typical 6/Tricky: Get Um Up
hard 5/Standard: Breaking the Common

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I really don't have much I can remember right now. If I come across a song that stands out in terms of difficulty, I'll post it here.

I agree with you for Get Um Up being a typical 6(mid-6), Breaking the Common being a high-5, Seagull being a high-6, but I think ''The Lion's Dance'' should be risen to a 7.

The Lion's Dance is even harder than a few 7s that I know, such as Roses and Butterflies(Heavy), Pondering Stuff, So Long to the Circus, EternuS, perhaps even Elements. That song extremely awkward to PA. I might be an one hander, but I'm positive it's as annoying to PA for a spread player. I can basically SDG every single 6 except Until You Leave/Dragon's Final Roar which should be a 7 and Mount Chorus(10-13 goods though) while I get like, at least 30 goods in ''The Lion's Dance''.

There are quick 24th and 48th note in the song if I'm not mistaken. The small jacks are making the song even harder to PA as well, not to mention the annoying ending that can easily screw you up.

Oh, and why is Haruka a 7? It should be an 8, in my opinion. Annoying beats and patherns. I don't know what you would call the patherns in it, but it sounds like a combination of jumps and gallops. The way that arrows are placed in that song makes it harder than most 7s.

**bmah** · 05-3-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by Niala

Dead and Direct, 83. No doubt. The 64th runs in it are way too hard to do for it to be anything else. Not quite FGO material, but very high FMO.

Really? I think Dead and Direct isn't too bad, despite the 64ths, The 64th patterns are overall not difficult to PA. It's not like Schmollbluk where the 32nds are jumbled in very difficult to read and PA patterns. It's an FMO that's between low and medium, certainly not a high FMO IMO.

**Niala** · 05-4-2009, 05:19 AM

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It might just be something to do with me being a relatively new spread player, too, but I can't seem to PA them at all. I always manage to get at least like 10 boos/goods. I'm lucky to not get a miss in the 64th sections, actually. I can see where somebody can think it's not that hard, though, considering that the awkward 64th patterns are really the only thing about it that makes it an FMO, and if you can do those well enough, well, it's a pretty easy song.

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