Ingame Song Information

[Vote4Nixon]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Glad to see my file has sparked some discussion, haha. So Nitrx has been out for a while now, and judging by the AAAs : players ratio, I guess it would fit as a low VC, though I'm not too sure. I don't find it hard at all (then again, it's my highest non-rank 1 song on my levelrank), but that's just me ?_?.

The jacks IIRC are around 138 BPM if they were 16ths, so they're not too terrible (though that 64th split into the jack triplet is >_>). Also, the 64th splits go to the "vocals"/screaming noise. All 64th notes can be hit as jumps...maybe it would be helpful to run through the file a couple times just focusing on the vocal noises in the JS section?

Hmmm, in retrospect, I guess I shoulda made them 192nds.

EDIT: WOW AAAs : players ratio is a pretty dumb ****ing statistic to base any decision off of. Ownt in my face.

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Holy **** @ perfect cherry storm. What's the max BPM on that thing? Just from the Replay that looks AT LEAST an 82, maybe even an 83, but wow

[Coolboyrulez0]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Holy **** @ perfect cherry storm. What's the max BPM on that thing? Just from the Replay that looks AT LEAST an 82, maybe even an 83, but wow

I believe 210BPM i have the file

[bballa48]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Holy **** @ perfect cherry storm. What's the max BPM on that thing? Just from the Replay that looks AT LEAST an 82, maybe even an 83, but wow

It really didn't feel that tough to me... it felt similar to Mario Minor in terms of difficulty... maybe even easier.

Kidney Stone on the other hand.... Holy crap.

[Kairon]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

new standard now
DP = highest 12 (95)
RATO = lowest 13 (96)

imo it's better than another idea of making both 13

Better why? At the moment, DP's level stats are far worse than that of any other FGO, yet comparable to RATO. Personally, I think it fits perfectly well as the easiest of the 13s.

[Ground_Breaker]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

ABCDeath is not a 10. The awkward 12/24ths make it probably a 9, but the length is really why I'm having a hard time believing it's a 10.

[jimerax]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Better why? At the moment, DP's level stats are far worse than that of any other FGO, yet comparable to RATO. Personally, I think it fits perfectly well as the easiest of the 13s.

because I don't want to whore 13.
as a result, the range of FGO might get a bit wider though.

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

ABCDEath looks like a C to me, or if it's a VC, then Nitrx is definitely VC, no debate

[bmah]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

ABCDEath is easy to me. Without that one slightly difficult section, the simfile would be an 8. If that small part has to boost the difficulty of the file, it should be a 9 at most. 10 is too much.

[Zybanthia]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Concerning the Nitrix discussion, I've played it, and to put my two cents in (if I already have, sorry, I can't remember), I think it's a Challenging. Hate to sound like an elitist pro or whatever, but the jacks just really aren't that hard.

Also, Death Piano... FGO? You do realize that the hardest FGO Tier Req is technically Revolutionary Etude, with 20 or fewer. Death Piano is 300 or fewer. Uhhhh, if it's that much harder, is it really okay to classify it on the same level as the stepfile right below its difficulty in the Tier Point list? Or to even call it an FGO when people can't even pass it without practically quadding the whole thing? I mean, there are people that are actually good enough to AAA most of the FGOs. Almost all of them, in fact. There is nobody good enough to get even double digit good on DP and we're calling it FGO? FGO's always been at least doable, guys.

[Niala]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

I'm split half and half with you, Zyb. I find the whole of Nitrx to just be really complicated and difficult to do, and PA. The 64th gallops, and even though you can just do them as a jump, throw me off a bunch and I don't really have anything better than 3 misses on it, which is pretty damn awful.

On the other hand, DP should not be an FGO. It's definitely a 13. I mean, I just went through it the other day for the first time, and I mean the whole way through for the first time. My initial thought was just "RATO is a hell of a lot easier to FC than this is..." I can't see DP being placed with the other FGO's. You have a good point, FGO's are always do-able. If something is unable to be AAA'd, or FC'd without just quadding your keyboard 90% of the time, it should be an FGO.

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

I'm split half and half with you, Zyb. I find the whole of Nitrx to just be really complicated and difficult to do, and PA. The 64th gallops, and even though you can just do them as a jump, throw me off a bunch and I don't really have anything better than 3 misses on it, which is pretty damn awful.

On the other hand, DP should not be an FGO. It's definitely a 13. I mean, I just went through it the other day for the first time, and I mean the whole way through for the first time. My initial thought was just "RATO is a hell of a lot easier to FC than this is..." I can't see DP being placed with the other FGO's. You have a good point, FGO's are always do-able. If something is unable to be AAA'd, or FC'd without just quadding your keyboard 90% of the time, it shouldn't be an FGO.

fix'd

And yes, I agree, DP should be 13 but JX has issues with it

[Zybanthia]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

I'm split half and half with you, Zyb. I find the whole of Nitrx to just be really complicated and difficult to do, and PA. The 64th gallops, and even though you can just do them as a jump, throw me off a bunch and I don't really have anything better than 3 misses on it, which is pretty damn awful.

Honestly Nitrix is one of those songs where if it becomes VC then it's not like I feel a great injustice has been served. That's like if Vertex BETA were to be a VC oh wait

DP should be 13 but JX has issues with it

JX here's some incentive: IT TAKES IT OFF THE FGO RANDOM LIST.

Cool stuff man, eh? Come on, you gotta admit.

[Patashu]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Looks like Nitrix is just hard in an unconventional way; unusual pattern reading.

Kinda like how AIM Anthem can be a VC or an FGO depending on how terrible you are at the jacktrills

[qqwref]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Looks like Nitrix is just hard in an unconventional way; unusual pattern reading.

Kinda like how AIM Anthem can be a VC or an FGO depending on how terrible you are at the jacktrills

There are jacktrills? >_>

I've never gotten a combo past the jackjumps part...